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Uni Stuff => Faculties => Engineering => Topic started by: nak on January 15, 2008, 07:56:31 pm

Title: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: nak on January 15, 2008, 07:56:31 pm
When do actually get to decide which stream of engineering we want to specialise in?
I know there is a period of time where all engineering students do the same thing but not sure when we branch off.
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: Collin Li on January 15, 2008, 08:25:50 pm
On the information session that is coming up very soon, they will tell you that you need to decide your stream of engineering by the time of your enrolment day (will be a few days after the information session).

In other words, you're going to branch off very soon :P The maths you take in first and second year will be in common though.
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: nak on January 15, 2008, 08:29:09 pm
arghhh i'm still indecisive of which engineering to do. damn monash didn't accept me :(  hopefully round 2 since they give engineers one year.
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: Collin Li on January 15, 2008, 08:31:32 pm
Chances are doing another year of a general engineering degree (probably maths and science) isn't going to help you decide. You did that in VCE too.

I suggest just set your focus on something, and do it. They're not going to be massively different. Tell us your priorities and we can discuss which stream of engineering is better.
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: aidansteele on January 15, 2008, 08:44:22 pm
Chances are doing another year of a general engineering degree (probably maths and science) isn't going to help you decide. You did that in VCE too.

I suggest just set your focus on something, and do it. They're not going to be massively different. Tell us your priorities and we can discuss which stream of engineering is better.

What? I think courses like civil engineering, telecommunications engineering and chemical engineering are quite distinct. The fact that they're all called "engineering" is more a relict of the past than anything else!
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: Collin Li on January 15, 2008, 09:07:06 pm
In application it is different, in maths it is similar.

Doing another year of general engineering is not going to help you decide. I disagree that the streams need to be separated into independent courses.
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: nak on January 16, 2008, 02:13:14 am
I'm looking towards civil, electrical and i dont really mind communications but then i dont think UoM offers communications.
Their branches are: Biomedical Engineering, Chemical & Biomolecular Engineering, Civil & Environmental Engineering, Computer Science & Software Engineering, Electrical & Electronic Engineering, Geomatic Engineering, Mechanical Engineering, Mechatronics.

http://www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/courses/ugrad/handbook.html
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: Collin Li on January 16, 2008, 02:20:02 am
Well, you wouldn't really find a course called Telecommunications Engineering at any big university. It is cheaper to run a general degree (I assume) like Electrical Engineering, so take that.
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: nak on January 16, 2008, 02:34:40 am
yeah i think i will take on electrical but if i find the subjects "too hard" or uninterested in will i be able to change subjects to accomplish civil or am i locked in?
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: Collin Li on January 16, 2008, 03:14:39 am
I don't think you have much chance of swapping over. Ask someone about it on information day.
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: nak on January 16, 2008, 04:22:27 pm
OK, after doing some comparisons of first year subjects.

Mechanical and Electrical are the same. https://app.portal.unimelb.edu.au/CSCApplication/view/2008/355-EE & https://app.portal.unimelb.edu.au/CSCApplication/view/2008/355-AF

Chemical: https://app.portal.unimelb.edu.au/CSCApplication/view/2008/355-AC

Civil: https://app.portal.unimelb.edu.au/CSCApplication/view/2008/355-AV

From these im pretty sure i can swap from electrical to mechanical after 1st year but (no point since doing the same thing, don't have a clue what each one are about or the difference) not sure to chemical though.
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: Collin Li on January 16, 2008, 04:26:17 pm
I'm doing Chemical Engineering at Melbourne University, and I enjoy it so far. I'd say it's one of the best options because of the high starting salary, the best girls to guys ratio, and because I find chemistry as such an interesting field of science.
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: nak on January 16, 2008, 04:30:17 pm
I too enjoy chemistry but my score wasn't too high mid 30s and i dont think i can cope with it in uni.
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: Ninox on January 16, 2008, 05:28:37 pm
*edit: though I go to monash, the streams available to engo's at monash and melbourne arent too different are they?
I love chemistry, got a 50 for it, and am also considering which engineering stream to go for.
Now, my aim is to work towards something in the nanotechnology or bio tech fields. With that in mind, I'm choosing between materials and chemical engineering streams at monash.Then there's my science major/s component.
I could do chemeng/materials sci or chemistry/materials eng, the possibilities are vast, and it's a pain in the ass   :buck2:
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: nak on January 17, 2008, 12:22:33 am
I think i might stick to Electrical for now cos i think i will be able to change to mechanical  next year. Only thing im concerned about now is the Breadth subject. What's quite easy and have girls :P
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: aidansteele on January 17, 2008, 01:00:40 am
Ninox: I wouldn't think materials engineering/science is very applicable to the nanotechnology field. The biomedical sequence of electrical engineering at Monash is almost certainly a better option if you want to pursue a future in that industry (which one of my friends dearly wants to do)
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: Ninox on January 17, 2008, 03:16:25 pm
curiously enough, the Dept. of Mat Eng at monash has published a 1-piece pamphlet titled Nanotechnology, a copy of which is in my wad of engineering information things. I must admit though, I completely ignored Electrical eng info on the open day, it isn't quite my thing.
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: Ninox on January 17, 2008, 11:53:27 pm
Ahah! I found it aidan, the sub-stream info I was talking about. It's in the Engineering Faculty's Undergrad handbook for 2008.
I'll repeat it here.
"From 3rd year... students choose to complete electives from one of three streams. Each stream involves 3 specialized units and the opportunity to undertake a final-year research project in the chosen area."
they are: biotech, sustainable processing and nanotech.
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: aidansteele on January 18, 2008, 12:08:38 am
Wow, ok! Admittedly I'm just as guilty of ignoring the streams I don't have any interest in and I just had preconceptions of what materials engineering involved without ever doing too much research into it. Perhaps I should read this handbook more thoroughly!

Thanks for the heads up :D
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: Ninox on January 18, 2008, 09:59:07 am
Wow, ok! Admittedly I'm just as guilty of ignoring the streams I don't have any interest in and I just had preconceptions of what materials engineering involved without ever doing too much research into it. Perhaps I should read this handbook more thoroughly!

Thanks for the heads up :D

eheh... maybe I should too, that extract was from the CHEMICAL eng discipline.
but the materials discipline still looks pretty interesting, "the Dept. of Mat Eng... offering a stream of nano-tech focussed units across all years."
nanotech's a huge, multidisciplinary field, bringing together ideas from many fields of science.
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: aidansteele on January 18, 2008, 10:15:47 am
You're right - it is a field that ties together a lot. I always approach it from the electrical eng. side of things (e.g. making transistors very, very, very small :P)
Title: Re: Engineering @ UoM
Post by: Ninox on January 18, 2008, 10:28:56 am
I think it might be a good idea to rename the thread. Make it less UoM specific and more discipline oriented.