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Archived Discussion => VCE Exam Discussion 2017 => Results Discussion => Victoria => VCE Humanities Exams => Topic started by: Joseph41 on November 08, 2017, 08:13:10 am
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How was it? Ask your questions here! :)
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Hope it all goes well everyone :)
Happy to answer any questions that you have after the exam!
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Here is my pre-exam prediction :P
France: A question on Estates General
Russia: One on the role of Trotsky/Lenin in the October rev.
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Here is my pre-exam prediction :P
France: A question on Estates General
Russia: One on the role of Trotsky/Lenin in the October rev.
Welp, I was very wrong.
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Welp, I was very wrong.
What was on it? How did it go?
Were you able to take the exam out with you? If so, would love to know what questions they asked :)
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That was such an easy exam overall!!! Although, Russia section A was a bit thought provoking. Hope everyone does well though!
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What was on it? How did it go?
Were you able to take the exam out with you? If so, would love to know what questions they asked :)
Russian section A asked Why the constituent assembly was resolved and the other question asked how the treaty of Brest Litovsk challenged the new regime
French section b had a question along the lines of "Privilege was an issue that outweighed all other factors to revolution", to what extent do you agree ?
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That was such an easy exam overall!!! Although, Russia section A was a bit thought provoking. Hope everyone does well though!
I definitely agree that Russia section A was a bit...interesting. I read the question and automatically went 'nope', and did section A on France.
What did you do besides Russia?
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Russia section one was great! I loved having nationalities as a question (meant I had a reason to remember the details about Russification and whatnot :))
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Russia section one was great! I loved having nationalities as a question (meant I had a reason to remember the details about Russification and whatnot :))
:O really! Most people in my cohort did that question but said they found it difficult as it wasn't something we thought would come up as its own question (or at all).
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Even though i reckon i probablty alright who ever wrote those questions deserves a left hook lol
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Even though i reckon i probablty alright who ever wrote those questions deserves a left hook lol
What was bad about them?
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Here is my pre-exam prediction :P
France: A question on Estates General
Russia: One on the role of Trotsky/Lenin in the October rev.
You are completley wrong
That exam was retarded asf
Didnt even talk about aos2 russian (execpt consituitent assembly and treaty but then that section had NATIONAL MINORITIY GROUPS WTF) at all, didnt even mention war communism, kronsdadt uprisings, NEP, how the bolesheviks solidified their power or the civil war at all
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That was such an easy exam overall!!! Although, Russia section A was a bit thought provoking. Hope everyone does well though!
How wasnt it ez
The womens right is hard although the French was ok just the internal divisions from 1793 that was challenging
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I thought Section A Russia had really unexpected questions, was doable though. I thought Section B America had a really easy essay question on representative gov causing the revolution, but the questions on Valley Forge were also very unexpected. (Especially it being the focus of all three short answer questions!)
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this exam was completely messed up, they fucked over all of us, particularly who did China for section A and Russia for section B. There was nowhere to hide, we were beaten and they insisted on beating us even more! I'm annoyed because they completely disregarded the most important bits for small, useless ones. Who cares about Mao's wife? Never studied that in class! And the bloody women part for russia, they threw out things like NEP, Civil War etc. Man, f those vcaa people, they are useless and like seeing our young minds burn and ache.
Anyway, im frusrated as ever but for Section A, whatd did people write for Mao's wife and purpose of Great Leap Forward questions? Also, Id like some insight on the Russia essay points and part c, on women's experiences in the new regime. Thanks but this exam was too hard, they thought we were some uni professors, man f the vcaa!!
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I definitely agree that Russia section A was a bit...interesting. I read the question and automatically went 'nope', and did section A on France.
What did you do besides Russia?
I did French for section B. The essay question gave you plenty of room to talk about basically anything and the source analysis was pretty easy because I predicted Lafayette was going to be on the exam because he's in both area of studies as a significant individual
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ikr why the fk would u ignore important asoects of the revolugion for usless small events
In the previous exams like 2015 they asked about the soviets and PG and the enlightenment not some bs that is small and hardlty no one even reads because it has little impact on the revolution
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this exam was completely messed up, they fucked over all of us, particularly who did China for section A and Russia for section B. There was nowhere to hide, we were beaten and they insisted on beating us even more! I'm annoyed because they completely disregarded the most important bits for small, useless ones. Who cares about Mao's wife? Never studied that in class! And the bloody women part for russia, they threw out things like NEP, Civil War etc. Man, f those vcaa people, they are useless and like seeing our young minds burn and ache.
Anyway, im frusrated as ever but for Section A, whatd did people write for Mao's wife and purpose of Great Leap Forward questions? Also, Id like some insight on the Russia essay points and part c, on women's experiences in the new regime. Thanks but this exam was too hard, they thought we were some uni professors, man f the vcaa!!
Yep, I'm a bit annoyed that the sources for Russia were on such specific areas of the study design. All that work I did for individuals, Kronstadt, Nep, war communism and what seems like the major parts of the Russian rev weren't featured. I'm lucky that I did a few notes on women in Russia the other day 'just in case'...
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I did French for section B. The essay question gave you plenty of room to talk about basically anything and the source analysis was pretty easy because I predicted Lafayette was going to be on the exam because he's in both area of studies as a significant individual
I had to skip that since if i did that i would have to do section a WHICH INVOLVED 20 MARKS FOR NATIONAL MINORITIES GROUPS.......WTF but i did well for french section a and the essay question for section b
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I did French for section B. The essay question gave you plenty of room to talk about basically anything and the source analysis was pretty easy because I predicted Lafayette was going to be on the exam because he's in both area of studies as a significant individual
Its funny, for our trial exam our teacher made a similar source analysis question on Lafayette (AoS2) to remind us he was in both areas of study for France. So I think that helped a few people in my class.
I had to skip that since if i did that i would have to do section a WHICH INVOLVED 20 MARKS FOR NATIONAL MINORITIES GROUPS.......WTF but i did well for french section a and the essay question for section b
Yep...same.
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this exam was completely messed up, they fucked over all of us, particularly who did China for section A and Russia for section B. There was nowhere to hide, we were beaten and they insisted on beating us even more! I'm annoyed because they completely disregarded the most important bits for small, useless ones. Who cares about Mao's wife? Never studied that in class! And the bloody women part for russia, they threw out things like NEP, Civil War etc. Man, f those vcaa people, they are useless and like seeing our young minds burn and ache.
Anyway, im frusrated as ever but for Section A, whatd did people write for Mao's wife and purpose of Great Leap Forward questions? Also, Id like some insight on the Russia essay points and part c, on women's experiences in the new regime. Thanks but this exam was too hard, they thought we were some uni professors, man f the vcaa!!
Mao's wife really screwed me over. Genuinely, anything but her would have been so nice, but of course it's something that's almost irrelevant
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I had to skip that since if i did that i would have to do section a WHICH INVOLVED 20 MARKS FOR NATIONAL MINORITIES GROUPS.......WTF but i did well for french section a and the essay question for section b
Hahaha yeah the national minorities question was so fucked. It wasn't even on the study design but I ended up choosing to do it because section B for Russian was about women, something I didn't cover at all
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this exam was completely messed up, they fucked over all of us, particularly who did China for section A and Russia for section B. There was nowhere to hide, we were beaten and they insisted on beating us even more! I'm annoyed because they completely disregarded the most important bits for small, useless ones. Who cares about Mao's wife? Never studied that in class! And the bloody women part for russia, they threw out things like NEP, Civil War etc. Man, f those vcaa people, they are useless and like seeing our young minds burn and ache.
Anyway, im frusrated as ever but for Section A, whatd did people write for Mao's wife and purpose of Great Leap Forward questions? Also, Id like some insight on the Russia essay points and part c, on women's experiences in the new regime. Thanks but this exam was too hard, they thought we were some uni professors, man f the vcaa!!
Although I don't know the exact questions asked (someone please provide if you have a copy of the exam!), whilst probably challenging questions, they're not unreasonable. VCAA need to challenge you in the exam to separate those who know their content really well and can adapt their knowledge to answer a question, and those who have perhaps memorised a few things but don't properly know how to use their knowledge. :)
Mao's wife (I'm assuming we're talking about Jiang Qing? He did have a fair few wives haha) played an important role in the Cultural Revolution (she was one of the members of the Central Cultural Revolution Group), and is one of the key people that is listed in the study design :) If you didn't study her in class, that might be an issue you should take up with your teacher. Definitely examinable content.
Again, without knowing the question - the purpose of the Great Leap Forward was Mao's tactic to revolutionise the Chinese economy - whilst good results had been obtained in heavy industry in the First Five Year Plan, the agricultural industry was floundering. The Second Five Year Plan and Mao's Twelve Year Agricultural Plan were incorporated into the GLF, and Mao also saw it as a way to transition from socialism to communism.
With any question to do with the GLF, you need to discuss the People's Communes - they were how Mao was going to improve agriculture, and the establishment of the People's Communes was what Mao achieved out of the GLF.
Was the stuff regarding women the essay question for Russia?
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this exam was completely messed up, they fucked over all of us, particularly who did China for section A and Russia for section B. There was nowhere to hide, we were beaten and they insisted on beating us even more! I'm annoyed because they completely disregarded the most important bits for small, useless ones. Who cares about Mao's wife? Never studied that in class! And the bloody women part for russia, they threw out things like NEP, Civil War etc. Man, f those vcaa people, they are useless and like seeing our young minds burn and ache.
Anyway, im frusrated as ever but for Section A, whatd did people write for Mao's wife and purpose of Great Leap Forward questions? Also, Id like some insight on the Russia essay points and part c, on women's experiences in the new regime. Thanks but this exam was too hard, they thought we were some uni professors, man f the vcaa!!
Well in all honestly I do think Russia Section A on Russification was a bit farfetchrd but it is apart of the study design so they had every right to choose that for the source analysis. For section B russia on the essay, i wrote 2 massive paragraphs, one discussing how the February revolution was a revolution, and contrasting it with the October revolution, explaining why it was a coup and not a revolution and then just analyzed from there. The womens experience source analysis caught me off guard and I didnt have any quotes regarding women so I was forced to rely on the sources. I didnt know much about women besides the fact marriage was a made a state affair not a religious one, so I vaguely ellaborated on the sources.
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Just throwing a reminder in here guys to please keep the conversation and language civil.
Whilst you may be frustrated at the questions you received, you were assessed only on things on the study design.
I don't mind swearing or anything, but no derogatory language is appropriate.
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Was the stuff regarding women the essay question for Russia?
The essay question was 'The direct intervention of workers and of peasants was the most important cause of the two Russian revolutions of 1917'
And the source analysis 10 mark was 'Analyse the experiences of women in the new regime'
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For the explain womens expirences in the new regime i kinda made shit up and if u said stuff like
- allowed to pledge for a diverce
- allowed to pursue an education
- went from bbeing regarded as depetend on their husbband to being just as capable as men (thanks year of wonders)
- took up jobs that were usualy men dominated
Would this be good
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For the explain womens expirences in the new regime i kinda made shit up and if u said stuff like
- allowed to pledge for a diverce
- allowed to pursue an education
- went from bbeing regarded as depetend on their husbband to being just as capable as men (thanks year of wonders)
- took up jobs that were usualy men dominated
Would this be good
That is pretty much exactly what I did, as long as you related it to the sources, especially source 1 and your answer was clear and fluid you should easily score a high mark (i guess)
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The essay question was 'The direct intervention of workers and of peasants was the most important cause of the two Russian revolutions of 1917'
And the source analysis 10 mark was 'Analyse the experiences of women in the new regime'
Cheers!
VCAA have really made you think here. Challenging, but doable questions. I'm glad I did Revs when the essay was for AOS2 haha.
I guess the source would influence what you discussed, but for women you could have mentioned:
- Decree on Marriage
- Improvement of literacy by 30% in the city, however patriarchal views still held in the country
- Civil War put "feminist development" (can't think of a better word haha) on hold
- Declaration of the Rights of the People of Russia - not specifically women, but you can always expand out past the women and discuss how it would have affected them
- You could probably mention the famine
- Maybe consider how economic difficulties would have impacted them? Maybe a bit stretched, but if you can link it back, could do it. You might have had more luck discussing their experience with war-related stuff
I don't have a great knowledge of the extra few years that are now in the Russian area of study, so I'm afraid my answers run out here haha. Will update the post if I think of anything more.
I'll have to think about what I'd say for the essay question! I much preferred having a source analysis for AOS1 of section B.
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That is pretty much exactly what I did, as long as you related it to the sources, especially source 1 and your answer was clear and fluid you should easily score a high mark (i guess)
LOOOOOOL. i fkn made shit up based on my knowledge of female prejudice in Europe which i learnt from English this year
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I think i just infered things based on the sources as well from memory i only remebered that females were allowed to pledge to divorce
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Hey guys! :)
With how hard this exam was, if you were rank 1 after SACs and pulled around a 56/80 (70%) on the exam, would it still be possible to get a reasonably high study score? (eg around 37-40)?
Thanks for any response! :)
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Hey guys! :)
With how hard this exam was, if you were rank 1 after SACs and pulled around a 56/80 (70%) on the exam, would it still be possible to get a reasonably high study score? (eg around 37-40)?
Thanks for any response! :)
Really hard to say - it will depend how the rest of the state went! :)
If you go off last year's grade distribution, 109+ was an A+ so getting a 56 (112) or higher would definitely put you in that range. To me, it definitely sounds like an achievable study score range, but I honestly think you're better off not stressing about it :)
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Here's the exam:
I don't think you can post pictures on this thing so I'll type out the questions (it'll take too long to type the sources too) here's Section A and B for all Revolutions. ***sorry for any mistakes!
SECTION A
America:
Question 1
a. Using source 1 and your own knowledge, outline the cause of tensions between Britain and colonies.
b. Using source 2 and your own knowledge, explain how the Stamp Act caused a tense situation in the colonies from 1765 to 1766.
c. Analyse the significance of colonial response to British tax revenue Acts as a cause of the American Revolution. In your response, refer to the sources provided and other views.
Question 2
Explain how economic conditions created challenges for the new regime. Use evidence to support your response.
Question 3
Explain the divisions that arose over the ratification of the Constitution. Use evidence to support your response.
France:
Questions 1
a. Using both sources and your own knowledge, outline the importance of the peasants in the overthrow of the 'privileged orders.'
b. Using source 2 and your own knowledge, explain what contributed to the Great Fear.
c. Analyse the significance of the Great Fear as a cause of the revolution. In your response, refer to the sources provided and other views.
Question 2
Explain the response of émigrés and of clergy to the changes brought about by the revolution. Use evidence to support response.
Question 3
Explain the internal divisions that arose from 1793 over the aims of the Revolution. Use evidence to support response.
Russia:
a. Using Source 1 and own knowledge, outline why the 'national question' became so critical in 1917.
b. Using both sources and own knowledge, explain the differences between the aspirations of the 'minorities' and Tsarist policy.
c. Analyse the significance of emerging non-Russian Nationalism as a cause of the Russian Revolution. Refer to sources provided and other views.
Question 2
Explain why the Constituent Assembly was dismissed in January 1918. Use evidence to support response.
Question 2
Explain how the consequences of the Treat of Brest-Litovsk challenged the new regime. Use evidence to support response.
China:
Question 1
a. Using Source 1 and own knowledge, outline what Mao Zedong (Mao Tst-tung) realised in Hunan about peasant movements.
b. Using Source 2 and your own knowledge, explain the conditions necessary to make Chinese peasants revolt.
c. Analyse the significance of Mao Zedong's (Mao Tst-tung's) focus on the peasants in the development of the revolution. In your response refer to sources provided and other views.
Question 2
Explain why Mao Zedong began the Great Leap Forward. Use evidence to support response.
Question 3
Explain the contribution of Jiang Quing (Chiang Ch'ing/Madam Mao) to the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution. Use evidence to support your response.
SECTION B
America:
Question 1 – Essay
'Issues of Representative Government outweigh all other forces that drove the colonists to revolution'
To what extent do you agree with this view?
Question 2
a. Compare how Source 1 and Source 3 depict the experience of the continental Army soldiers at 'Valley Forge'.
b. Using Source 2 and own knowledge, explain the outcomes of 'Valley Forge' for the Continental Army soldiers.
c. Analyse the significance of the challenges faced by the Continental Army soldiers in consolidating the new regime. In response refer to sources provided and other views.
France:
Question 1 – Essay
'Privilege is the issue that outweighs all others as a cause of the French Revolution'
To what extent do you agree with this view?
Question 2
a. Compare how the visual features of Source 1 and Source 2 depict Marquis de Lafayette as a leader in the Revolution
b. Using source 3 and own knowledge explain why Lafayette lost popularity.
c. Analyse why opinions about Lafayette and other leaders changed during the consolidation of the regime. In your response, refer to the sources provided and other views.
Russia:
Question 1 – Essay
'The direct intervention of workers and of peasants was the most important cause of the two Russian revolutions of 1917.
To what extent do you agree?
Question 2
a. Compare how Source 1 and Source 3 depict the experiences of women in the new regime
b. Using source 2 and own knowledge, explain the role of Alexandra Kollontai in the new regime.
c. Analyse the experiences of women in the new regime. In your response use the sources provided and other views.
China:
Question 1 – Essay
'The actions of the Red Army towards the Chinese people were the key reason for the success of the Chinese Communist Party by 1949.'
Discuss.
Question 2
a. compare how source 1 and source 2 depict Liu Shaoqi (Liu Shao-ch'i)
b. Using Source 3 and own knowledge, explain the contribution Liu Shaoqi (Liu Shao-ch'i) made to improving conditions in China in the early 1960s.
c. Analyse why opinions about Liu Shaoqi (Liu Shao-ch'i) changed during the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution. In response, refer to sources provided and other views.
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^ Absolute legend, thank you!
I'll write some dot points about what I would have mentioned for China and Russia later today :)
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Thanks, imiller! :)
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Overall I really liked the exam, I did section A for Russia and Section B for France. The first three questions for Russia were difficult, I left them and came back to them at the end, didn't get to attempt question 1. The last two on Russia were great, about the Constituent Assembly and the Treaty of Brest Litovsk. The essay question about privelige on France was a beaut! Sources were a little weird for France, but overall I managed. Last question about Lafayette was a good one but I was running out of time so didn't do my best on it. Just a few quick questions:
What did people do for the third question in Russia section A, 10 marks?
Also for the Lafayette question with changing of opinions?
Cheers