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Archived Discussion => VCE Exam Discussion 2017 => Results Discussion => Victoria => VCE Health and Physical Education Exams => Topic started by: Joseph41 on November 09, 2017, 09:01:59 am
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A COPY OF THE EXAM.
SOLUTIONS.
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Maybe it was just me, but I felt that there was more stuff on the SEM than in previous years. The answer to the internal/external concentration MC question was a total guess for me- can't remember seeing that anywhere all year.
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I believe that answer was broad external to broad internal due to the fact that the soccer player was focusing on the ball.
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Overall, I thought the exam was pretty easy. Except that 6 marks question asking for the "energy requirements" for Kobe Bryant to perform certain basketball moves such as a lay up in 3 minutes.
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yeah that was pretty reasonable! A few of the MC questions I'm unsure of, but otherwise I think I got at least 70%.
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Does anyone have the answers to the exam?
:)
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Seconded, but I don't think many will have them given PE's not as popular as Methods and other subjects
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anyone know answer to multichoice q 9?
Why field test over lab?
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anyone know answer to multichoice q 9?
Why field test over lab?
Think it was because it was the ethical choice.
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Think it was because it was the ethical choice.
How come?
I thought validity because it is more specific to the demands of an intermittent team sport with frequent turns and stops :o
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I agree with TheAspiringDoc!
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What did people get for Multiple Choice Question 1??
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Anyone know where I can get the mutliple choice answers?
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I said consent instead of informed consent, will that matter?
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What was the first question? ;D
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Was it Lisa or Ranee for the question about rugby 7's?and why? Thanks in advanced
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Hi everyone,
What did you get for the BMI and skinfolds question??
Thanks in advance :))
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I picked Ranee because she had the fastest 'speed' time which was vital for rugby 7's.
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I said that the skin fold test was more accurate. Although it didn't ask for reasoning, it is because the skin fold test directly measures fat whereas the BMI test does not and also doesn't account for extra muscle, etc.
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How come?
I thought validity because it is more specific to the demands of an intermittent team sport with frequent turns and stops :o
Was the question in reference to any fitness component? I can't remember. I figured it wouldn't be validity because both tests are measuring what they claim to be testing. In terms of specificity I agree with you, but we will just have to wait and see. Do you remember the question word for word?
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Was it Lisa or Ranee for the question about rugby 7's?and why? Thanks in advanced
Pretty sure It was lisa, went over it with my teacher
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Was the question in reference to any fitness component? I can't remember. I figured it wouldn't be validity because both tests are measuring what they claim to be testing. In terms of specificity I agree with you, but we will just have to wait and see. Do you remember the question word for word?
Nope I can't remember word4word sorry
For the Lisa/reneee question, I went for the one that did well in the less important tests also (20m shuttle run and phosphate recovery) as those tests relate to key factors concerning "movement" (aerobic capacity/anaerobic capacity)
What I was really confused by was when it asked what the predominant energy system for the repeated 20m sprints test was. I didn't know whether it was asking for the test as a whole, or only during efforts. I went with the aerobic system..
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Nope I can't remember word4word sorry
For the Lisa/reneee question, I went for the one that did well in the less important tests also (20m shuttle run and phosphate recovery) as those tests relate to key factors concerning "movement" (aerobic capacity/anaerobic capacity)
What I was really confused by was when it asked what the predominant energy system for the repeated 20m sprints test was. I didn't know whether it was asking for the test as a whole, or only during efforts. I went with the aerobic system..
I think it would have been one of the anaerobic systems which links into the next question about fatigue, where it would have been either PC depletion or H+ ion accumulation
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What did people say for the skinfolds / BMI question?? We never went through Skinfolds during the year so i just said BMI were the better and then said skinfolds for the group of amateur individuals.... and now after seeing discussion everyone else has done the opposite. Have i definitely lost marks there?? I've held an A+ average all year and I'd hate to kiss it all goodbye on the exam
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Can someone contact a PE expert and give us their answers? ;D ;D
I feel like PE is such an un-loved subject.. would be really surprised if answers came up any time soon!
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Ikr! It'll probably take us weeks before we can get em whereas Methods legit took 5 mins after the exams and someone already posted their answers haha.
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^Exam will be up as of tonight; hopefully, we can then get some answers going. 8)
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Can someone contact a PE expert and give us their answers? ;D ;D
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A COPY OF THE EXAM.
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Any ideas about the MC question, Field testing v Lab testing, I still can't get my head around it, I ended up going with ethical, as the other 3 would not be why a field test is preferable.
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did you guys choose Emily or Corey? I chose Emily but the one other person I've spoken to about it chose Corey ://
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did you guys choose Emily or Corey? I chose Emily but the one other person I've spoken to about it chose Corey ://
Emily, the test was at max intensity, therefore beyond LIP regardless how well developed LIP the athlete has
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did you guys choose Emily or Corey? I chose Emily but the one other person I've spoken to about it chose Corey ://
Emily because LIP is usually related to aerobic exercise, the 30 second windgate was anaerobic, causing a build up of metabolic by-products. Greater ability to buffer said by-products would be more beneficial than having a high LIP in that case
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Any ideas about the MC question, Field testing v Lab testing, I still can't get my head around it, I ended up going with ethical, as the other 3 would not be why a field test is preferable.
I said validity only because in the filed the tests can be more specific to the sport therefore the testing measures what it's intended to be measuring.... a lot of people have said ethical though so i guess we'll have to see
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Anyone got full answers? I think MC are:
1B
2D
3D
4A
5B
6D
7C
8A
9B
10D
11B
12B
13C
14C
15C
Correct me if wrong, I think this is right
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Anyone got full answers? I think MC are:
1B
2D
3D
4A
5B
6D
7C
8A
9B
10D
11B
12B
13C
14C
15C
Correct me if wrong, I think this is right
3 will be C, as D refers to lactate tolerance, whereas answer C describes how insufficient oxygen, therefore increased anaerobic glycolysis which will result in an accumulation of Blood Lactate
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Question 2 isn't D:
It's B because LIP can be delayed, and performance power increased, without any changes to your VO₂ max. This is achieved by improving your muscle efficiency through increasing hydrogen ion buffering capacity, lactate tolerance, lactate clearance, and increasing aerobic enzyme activity. Absorbing, transporting, and metabolising hydrogen and lactate more quickly means we can sustain higher workloads than previously possible, as this exponential accumulation does not occur until a higher exercise intensity.
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Question 2 isn't D:
It's B because LIP can be delayed, and performance power increased, without any changes to your VO₂ max. This is achieved by improving your muscle efficiency through increasing hydrogen ion buffering capacity, lactate tolerance, lactate clearance, and increasing aerobic enzyme activity. Absorbing, transporting, and metabolising hydrogen and lactate more quickly means we can sustain higher workloads than previously possible, as this exponential accumulation does not occur until a higher exercise intensity.
No it is D, due to aerobic training, the body has an increased ability to oxidise fats and carbohydrates aerobically at a higher intensity for longer, reducing the demands of ATP production from anaerobic glycolysis, thereby delaying LIP
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3 will be C, as D refers to lactate tolerance, whereas answer C describes how insufficient oxygen, therefore increased anaerobic glycolysis which will result in an accumulation of Blood Lactate
I put in wrong the first time sorry, I believe A is the answer/better answer. A is the more accurate answer than C, I believe as it is more specific to why lactate accumulates, than insufficient oxygen supply, but really they are both correct
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I agree Johno, 3 is A.
Not sure about question 2 then ??? ;D
I guess we'll need someone else's opinion hey.
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I put in wrong the first time sorry, I believe A is the answer/better answer. A is the more accurate answer than C I believe as it is more specific to why lactate accumulates, than insufficient oxygen supply, but really they are both correct
The answer is C, in regards to A, blood lactate can accumulate (increase in concentration) without exceeding LIP, which is what a stipulates.
C is the correct answer, as insufficient oxygen, increases the demand from anaerobic glycolysis, resulting in increased lactate, i.e an accumulation.
A refers to LIP, where as C explains why lactate accumulates
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The answer is C, in regards to A, blood lactate can accumulate (increase in concentration) without exceeding LIP, which is what a stipulates.
C is the correct answer, as insufficient oxygen, increases the demand from anaerobic glycolysis, resulting in increased lactate, i.e an accumulation.
A refers to LIP, where as C explains why lactate accumulates
Yeah you do have a fair point! I can see where you are going with this. But I am not sure at this point because they are both relatively correct.
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The answer is C, in regards to A, blood lactate can accumulate (increase in concentration) without exceeding LIP, which is what a stipulates.
C is the correct answer, as insufficient oxygen, increases the demand from anaerobic glycolysis, resulting in increased lactate, i.e an accumulation.
A refers to LIP, where as C explains why lactate accumulates
Fair point, but if you have production of anything in PE or not, it will be the result of the levels of production of the 'thing' being greater than the level of removal of the 'thing.' Also, for example in a vertical jump action there will be negligible contribution from AG system, it will all be stored ATP itself, providing it had not already been depleted. In this effort, there is insufficient oxygen for the exercise but no accumulation of lactate.
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I said consent instead of informed consent, will that matter?
Don't know yet, but it will probably matter as 'informed' implies the participant has been told of the risks and how the test is run, etc. 'Consent' only implies the participant has signed off to do the test.
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For question 4b would they accept the training principle of duration or detraining? I put duration.
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No it is D, due to aerobic training, the body has an increased ability to oxidise fats and carbohydrates aerobically at a higher intensity for longer, reducing the demands of ATP production from anaerobic glycolysis, thereby delaying LIP
Have to agree with Tom here, LIP and lactate tolerance and independent of each other. Increase in lactate tolerance means you can maintain the (anaerobic) intensity above your LIP (an aerobic measure) where you are in fact accumulating H+ ions. Tolerance means you still accumulate them but are able to buffer (effectively neutralise) the lactate.
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For question 4b would they accept the training principle of duration or detraining? I put duration.
I doubt they's accept duration as the graph is displayed over days (84 days) instead of minutes and hours
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These answers make me so happy. I thought I stuffed the MC, but going off these answers I got 13/14 ! So happy seeing as I’ve held A+ all year and I thought I wasted it away on the exam
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Yeah you do have a fair point! I can see where you are going with this. But I am not sure at this point because they are both relatively correct.
I think 3 is A because insufficient oxygen could mean contribution from ATP-PC which won't product lactate
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Anyone got thoughts on any of the following:
Questions 2.c. ('Describe the stretch shortening cycle that occurs in this type of exercise')- A rapid eccentric contraction followed by forceful concentric contraction?
6.a. (Netball program) Was there a policy component? Or physical environment, I suggested from the information provided there is no evidence to suggest there was p.e, but supplying courts was the likely way they targeted this aspect.
11.c. (Graph providing hr and speed) If I provided evidence will long interval be accepted?
13.c. (6x30 meter sprints) Predominant system? Could almost be any of the three
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anyone have suggested answers to PE exam?
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Anyone got thoughts on any of the following:
Questions 2.c. ('Describe the stretch shortening cycle that occurs in this type of exercise')- A rapid eccentric contraction followed by forceful concentric contraction?
6.a. (Netball program) Was there a policy component? Or physical environment, I suggested from the information provided there is no evidence to suggest there was p.e, but supplying courts was the likely way they targeted this aspect.
11.c. (Graph providing hr and speed) If I provided evidence will long interval be accepted?
13.c. (6x30 meter sprints) Predominant system? Could almost be any of the three
For 2.c Personally i Never learnt that in class, so i said that the muscles go through their full range of motion or something (definitely lost marks there)
6.a. Yes i agree there wasn't much evidence of P.E. and i too said that providing courts and netball equipment was the only seen evidence, i think for policy you could have said the rules not only in-game but the policy to having to pick one program?? Not sure will have to see answers
11.c. Yes Long Interval is a valid option, especially if you used the right data to support, what as your other stated method? (I did continuous and Fartlek)
13.c. I said Aerobic, simply because it asked for PREDOMINANT energy system, and aerobic would have supplied like 70-80% of total energy, with added contribution from anaerobic glycolysis only when intensity was above 85% max HR
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For 2.c Personally i Never learnt that in class, so i said that the muscles go through their full range of motion or something (definitely lost marks there)
6.a. Yes i agree there wasn't much evidence of P.E. and i too said that providing courts and netball equipment was the only seen evidence, i think for policy you could have said the rules not only in-game but the policy to having to pick one program?? Not sure will have to see answers
11.c. Yes Long Interval is a valid option, especially if you used the right data to support, what as your other stated method? (I did continuous and Fartlek)
13.c. I said Aerobic, simply because it asked for PREDOMINANT energy system, and aerobic would have supplied like 70-80% of total energy, with added contribution from anaerobic glycolysis only when intensity was above 85% max HR
Thanks, yeh I said continuous for 11 for the other (stops in the run could be due to stopping at traffic light). Aerobic seems like the best answer for 13, unfortunately I panicked and said anaerobic glycolysis, probably the least likely of the 3
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For 2.c Personally i Never learnt that in class, so i said that the muscles go through their full range of motion or something (definitely lost marks there)
6.a. Yes i agree there wasn't much evidence of P.E. and i too said that providing courts and netball equipment was the only seen evidence, i think for policy you could have said the rules not only in-game but the policy to having to pick one program?? Not sure will have to see answers
Examples of physical environment could be the netball games being played at designated courts, which are located in almost every town/suburb.
Policy could include the pay as you play, which aids parents and individuals as they don't have to pay for expensive and contracted gym memberships
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For 2.c Personally i Never learnt that in class, so i said that the muscles go through their full range of motion or something (definitely lost marks there)
6.a. Yes i agree there wasn't much evidence of P.E. and i too said that providing courts and netball equipment was the only seen evidence, i think for policy you could have said the rules not only in-game but the policy to having to pick one program?? Not sure will have to see answers
11.c. Yes Long Interval is a valid option, especially if you used the right data to support, what as your other stated method? (I did continuous and Fartlek)
13.c. I said Aerobic, simply because it asked for PREDOMINANT energy system, and aerobic would have supplied like 70-80% of total energy, with added contribution from anaerobic glycolysis only when intensity was above 85% max HR
For 2.c Personally i Never learnt that in class, so i said that the muscles go through their full range of motion or something (definitely lost marks there)
6.a. Yes i agree there wasn't much evidence of P.E. and i too said that providing courts and netball equipment was the only seen evidence, i think for policy you could have said the rules not only in-game but the policy to having to pick one program?? Not sure will have to see answers
11.c. Yes Long Interval is a valid option, especially if you used the right data to support, what as your other stated method? (I did continuous and Fartlek)
13.c. I said Aerobic, simply because it asked for PREDOMINANT energy system, and aerobic would have supplied like 70-80% of total energy, with added contribution from anaerobic glycolysis only when intensity was above 85% max HR
I don't think 13. c) is the aerobic system, because first of all the work to rest ratio is approx 1:5, indicating a strong reliance on the ATP-PC system to provide energy for ATP resynthesis in a sprint (which is done at max intensity), and secondly in between sets the energy demands of the body are low, and therefore the aerobic system wouldn't have to help produce significant amounts of energy compared to that of what the ATP-PC system would in the sprint. The aerobic system's main purpose in this situation would be to phosphorylate PC stores, which doesn't correlate with it being predominant (meaning greatest contributor to ATP resynthesis).
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For 2.c Personally i Never learnt that in class, so i said that the muscles go through their full range of motion or something (definitely lost marks there)
6.a. Yes i agree there wasn't much evidence of P.E. and i too said that providing courts and netball equipment was the only seen evidence, i think for policy you could have said the rules not only in-game but the policy to having to pick one program?? Not sure will have to see answers
11.c. Yes Long Interval is a valid option, especially if you used the right data to support, what as your other stated method? (I did continuous and Fartlek)
13.c. I said Aerobic, simply because it asked for PREDOMINANT energy system, and aerobic would have supplied like 70-80% of total energy, with added contribution from anaerobic glycolysis only when intensity was above 85% max HR
I said it was Anaerobic glycolysis as evidence in how Jarrod Berry got "4th overall: 24.99s." Remember, the aerobic system doesn't become predominant until 60seconds+
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I don't think 13. c) is the aerobic system, because first of all the work to rest ratio is approx 1:5, indicating a strong reliance on the ATP-PC system to provide energy for ATP resynthesis in a sprint (which is done at max intensity), and secondly in between sets the energy demands of the body are low, and therefore the aerobic system wouldn't have to help produce significant amounts of energy compared to that of what the ATP-PC system would in the sprint. The aerobic system's main purpose in this situation would be to phosphorylate PC stores, which doesn't correlate with it being predominant (meaning greatest contributor to ATP resynthesis).
Yes this is very true, I think this Q has stumped a lot of people..
Later on in the Q it asked for the most likely cause of fatigue and the best recovery method, what did you (or anyone else) say for them?
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Yes this is very true, I think this Q has stumped a lot of people..
Later on in the Q it asked for the most likely cause of fatigue and the best recovery method, what did you (or anyone else) say for them?
Depletion of fuels and active recovery. :)
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Depletion of fuels should be right, but I'm pretty sure it's passive recovery to replenish PC stores
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Depletion of fuels and active recovery. :)
I also said depletion of fuels, but said passive recovery in order to replenish lost CP stores to complete the sprints
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I also said depletion of fuels, but said passive recovery in order to replenish lost CP stores to complete the sprints
Yeah, it will either be:
- ATP-PC, depletion of PC, Passive recovery
or
-Anaerobic glycolysis, H+ ion accumulation, active recovery
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Sample solutions from a past 50er below.
NOTE: Question 14c should read:
"Accumulation of hydrogen ions - H+ is a by-product of anaerobic glycolysis; accumulation of H+ increases blood pH leading to muscle acidosis. This prevents the release of Ca2+ (essential for optimal muscle contractions). By reducing calcium's ability to couple myosin and actin together, not all points in the myofilament are attached, creating weaker contractions. Thus, there is a reduction in muscular contractile force and speed, and hence, intensity."
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MC 14 and 15? rationale behind those two, i would have chosen C and C for both
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MC 14 and 15? rationale behind those two, i would have chosen C and C for both
MC14 - yes i was tossing up between A and C. Quite possibly C! I don't recall learning about internal/external hmm
MC15 - ah yes should indeed be C (apologies - a mis-circling on my behalf :-\)
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Q5a - reasoning-Isn't the Wingate Cycling test a measure of anaerobic capacity?
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Yes, it is.
There is a 30-second jumps test that is a test of LME ... may have been the confusion?
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For question 15b i. would it be correct if I said Narcotics as being a masking agent? The reason I wrote it is because it masks pain