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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: Globe on December 16, 2017, 10:32:00 pm
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Hey Guys!
I'll keep this short, but I'm currently tossing up between picking up Further Maths next year (Year 12), meaning that I'd be undertaking both further and methods. I was just wondering if anybody could share their experiences about what it's like to do two maths in year 12.
If I was to change, I'd most likely be replacing Accounting. I feel that with accounting I'd be able to get a high 30's to low 40's score, but with further I possible could obtain high 40's (of course there is no guarantee and this is just pure speculation at this point!!)
Let me know your thoughts!
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Did both Further and Methods in Year 12 having done General Maths back in Year 10 and Methods U1/2 in Year 11. I'll tell you one reason straight up and the only negative I see from this: if you expect to get a high SS, you must get almost every question right and make very few mistakes in the exam. It gets super competitive at the top end and a few mistakes = costly. Aside from this, if you have the aptitude to do maths reasonably well (i.e. that you're doing fine in Methods) and can handle the slightly different orientation of Further, then I don't see any other issues.
Also consider the following three questions:
1. Do you like Further? (I'd assume so seeing as you are considering it.)
2. Are you good at Further? Please see the sample exam from the VCAA website to check.
3. Do you need Further/ Accounting in any courses? I have yet to find a course that requires Accounting as a prerequisite, but Further is actually a prerequisite in some courses (but also covered by Methods).
Anyway, the workload is doable. I really enjoyed Further and Methods. They felt like two different entities though and have two different atmospheres. It's like doing English and Literature/ English Language simultaneously. They're different approaches to the same sort of areas of learning. I actually felt like Further was my 'break' subject back in the day (see my signature to see what else I was doing, excluding Psych which I did in Year 11). I don't think I would've found doing Methods alone would've felt much different to Methods + Further, because, again, they're different.
As for Accounting, never did it, so I can't say. I'll let someone else discuss it for you, but my biased opinion says Further, because it turned out to be one of my favourite subjects. (Also, I help out a fair bit on the Further Question thread, so... yeah... ::) that may or may not have some impact.)
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Did both Further and Methods in Year 12 having done General Maths back in Year 10 and Methods U1/2 in Year 11. I'll tell you one reason straight up and the only negative I see from this: if you expect to get a high SS, you must get almost every question right and make very few mistakes in the exam. It gets super competitive at the top end and a few mistakes = costly. Aside from this, if you have the aptitude to do maths reasonably well (i.e. that you're doing fine in Methods) and can handle the slightly different orientation of Further, then I don't see any other issues.
Also consider the following three questions:
1. Do you like Further? (I'd assume so seeing as you are considering it.)
2. Are you good at Further? Please see the sample exam from the VCAA website to check.
3. Do you need Further/ Accounting in any courses? I have yet to find a course that requires Accounting as a prerequisite, but Further is actually a prerequisite in some courses (but also covered by Methods).
Anyway, the workload is doable. I really enjoyed Further and Methods. They felt like two different entities though and have two different atmospheres. It's like doing English and Literature/ English Language simultaneously. They're different approaches to the same sort of areas of learning. I actually felt like Further was my 'break' subject back in the day (see my signature to see what else I was doing, excluding Psych which I did in Year 11). I don't think I would've found doing Methods alone would've felt much different to Methods + Further, because, again, they're different.
As for Accounting, never did it, so I can't say. I'll let someone else discuss it for you, but my biased opinion says Further, because it turned out to be one of my favourite subjects. (Also, I help out a fair bit on the Further Question thread, so... yeah... ::) that may or may not have some impact.)
Thanks a ton for your post! Found it really informative and helpful. I'll be sure to keep you updated in what I end up finally doing!
Thanks once again :)
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Hey Guys!
I'll keep this short, but I'm currently tossing up between picking up Further Maths next year (Year 12), meaning that I'd be undertaking both further and methods. I was just wondering if anybody could share their experiences about what it's like to do two maths in year 12.
If I was to change, I'd most likely be replacing Accounting. I feel that with accounting I'd be able to get a high 30's to low 40's score, but with further I possible could obtain high 40's (of course there is no guarantee and this is just pure speculation at this point!!)
Let me know your thoughts!
It is up to you what you end up deciding, but I feel that there is a serious downside to Further, and that is the immense amount of concentration required to get a high score, since each question can make a massive difference in what you score. The Further course doesn't seem as interesting also, and I personally dropped Further out of a combination of boredom, subject overload and no need for it. I don't think that there is a problem with doing 2 Maths, but Accounting could be useful to you more than Further in your later career.
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I don't think that there is a problem with doing 2 Maths, but Accounting could be useful to you more than Further in your later career.
Ooh yeah, forgot to say, if you're intending to do, say, anything related to Accounting in the future, that might be of concern then.
Globe, please take career choice into consideration!
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I reckon you should do accounting. From my experience, I started accounting with absolutely no experience at all but the textbook is quite methodical and self-explanatory of the concepts. Most of the accounting exam is quite doable and so minor mistakes wont be punished as heavily when compared to Further. But like just go for what feels right in general