Post by: sdhains on October 13, 2009, 08:09:43 am
I really would like to get an idea of how much people studied in order to receive the raw score they got in methods. How many exams +other revision did you do in order to achieve the study score that you did? What was your approximate SAC ranking/grade?
Thanks
Note: when talking about how many exams can you specify if your talking in sets of exams or exam 1's and 2's.
Post by: xXNovaxX on October 14, 2009, 05:04:10 pm
I hate when people say "Oh, I did no study, (or I did 3 days prior) and I got a 45" when in fact they studied from like term 2.
Some however, do only study that short period of time, e.g. Ninwa.
I will use her as a role model to help me get through exams! Ty Ninwa! My laziness has been excused haha.
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on October 14, 2009, 07:47:14 pm
amount of study
Post by: ninwa on October 14, 2009, 07:50:44 pm
Some however, do only study that short period of time, e.g. Ninwa.DISCLAIMER: THAT WAS FOR ENGLISH NOT MATHS (languages/humanities come more easily to me, I'm not a maths/science person!!!)
My SAC was I think maybe high B+ average? But I did about 40 or so methods trial exams (sets of 1 and 2) to get a SS of 44 (which was one of the higher SS at my school that year, so I probably screwed a few people over in terms of SAC rankings ... :-\)
Post by: bigtick on October 14, 2009, 08:18:44 pm
Post by: sdhains on October 14, 2009, 08:37:51 pm
40 SETS holy jesus ninwa that's impressive.Some however, do only study that short period of time, e.g. Ninwa.DISCLAIMER: THAT WAS FOR ENGLISH NOT MATHS (languages/humanities come more easily to me, I'm not a maths/science person!!!)
My SAC was I think maybe high B+ average? But I did about 40 or so methods trial exams (sets of 1 and 2) to get a SS of 44 (which was one of the higher SS at my school that year, so I probably screwed a few people over in terms of SAC rankings ... :-\)
Post by: sdhains on October 14, 2009, 08:44:17 pm
everyone is differentIndeed we are all unique and beautiful snowflakes and that is why I was asking how hard other people went to get their scores - Not how hard I would have to work to get X score.
amount of studyK(study score)
Post by: samuch on October 14, 2009, 09:00:06 pm
Some however, do only study that short period of time, e.g. Ninwa.DISCLAIMER: THAT WAS FOR ENGLISH NOT MATHS (languages/humanities come more easily to me, I'm not a maths/science person!!!)
My SAC was I think maybe high B+ average? But I did about 40 or so methods trial exams (sets of 1 and 2) to get a SS of 44 (which was one of the higher SS at my school that year, so I probably screwed a few people over in terms of SAC rankings ... :-\)
40!!!!!!!!!! :'(
seriously not going to have a life next year
Post by: ninwa on October 14, 2009, 09:03:49 pm
So don't stress!!! (and look at people like Ahmad who can get 50s in spesh doing minimal numbers of practice exams)
Post by: Fyrefly on October 14, 2009, 09:07:07 pm
I did methods in year 11 and got a 37 raw for it... I didn't do all that many exams (I never do though)... perhaps 5 or 6 all up?
Post by: TonyHem on October 14, 2009, 09:38:55 pm
haha I wish.
Post by: xXNovaxX on October 14, 2009, 09:49:09 pm
I only did textbook questions and I got a 50.I reckon it COULD still be possible to get 45+ with textbook questions. Some textbooks are really written quiet well, and test your knowledge on the textbook....which is what many exams are based on. However, doing past exams and reaidng examiners reports makes you see the mistakes people made etc.
haha I wish.
Post by: thisongaintgottaname on October 14, 2009, 10:08:02 pm
doing fine for spesh atm
Post by: xXNovaxX on October 14, 2009, 10:16:07 pm
B average for me, serves me right for doing nothing at all this whole year, cept for probability..What's wrong with that? That's a v.good mark, considering the circumstances.
doing fine for spesh atm
Post by: QuantumJG on October 14, 2009, 10:53:27 pm
I should have done more practice exams!
Ninwa how the heck did you do 40 practice exams? What did you go all the way back to methods exams handed out in the 90's or something?
At our school we had the vcaa exams and a Heffernan compilation and a few other exams on offer.
Post by: /0 on October 14, 2009, 10:53:39 pm
Read and worked through "Teach yourself calculus" and "Teach yourself trigonometry" from the library (didn't do Methods 1&2 so this was for consolidation)
Joined a math forum and a vce forum ;p
Didn't bother with checkpoints, but I did about 20-25 exam pairs (<3 Mao & daniel), all done under exam conditions.
Eventually got 48, which I was very happy about
Post by: dekoyl on October 14, 2009, 10:56:27 pm
Post by: sdhains on October 14, 2009, 11:10:46 pm
I did most (not all) papers from 2006 onwards and a few 2008 ones. I got low 40s.How many pairs do you think that was dekoyl?
Post by: dekoyl on October 14, 2009, 11:23:10 pm
How many pairs do you think that was dekoyl?I'd say about 15-20 exam 1 and 2s altogether.
Oh and it wasn't in a short period of time (from late August up until the day before the exam)
Post by: ninwa on October 14, 2009, 11:40:10 pm
Ninwa how the heck did you do 40 practice exams? What did you go all the way back to methods exams handed out in the 90's or something?
Yep :P
My school gave all of us a Folder of Fun absolutely stuffed with exams back to about '98-ish? plus a CD with more AWESOMEFUN exams on it. *sigh*
Pretty sure I did some duplicates though. Also the night before the exam I accidentally did a spesh paper (no idea why it was in the folder) and got 49%, and went into the exam (not knowing that it was spesh-level) with my confidence completely shattered :P
^ that is why you don't do that many practice exams >_>
Post by: dekoyl on October 14, 2009, 11:41:50 pm
Post by: ninwa on October 14, 2009, 11:54:36 pm
^ Didn't you wonder why there was suddenly complex numbers and vectors in the methods exam? :P
I'd done so many of the same kinds of questions that I was going mad with boredom. I think I was just glad to have something different.
... then horrified that I couldn't do any of the "different" stuff ...
(it was like 12am and my mind was a mess)
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 15, 2009, 06:57:58 pm
My SAC was I think maybe high B+ average? But I did about 40 or so methods trial exams (sets of 1 and 2) to get a SS of 44 (which was one of the higher SS at my school that year, so I probably screwed a few people over in terms of SAC rankings ... :-\)
So what happened to all those people who were ranked above you in the SACs? Is that what you mean by "...screwed a few people over in terms of SAC rankings..."?
Post by: ninwa on October 15, 2009, 07:24:44 pm
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 15, 2009, 07:26:53 pm
They got lower SS than me I guess? The highest SS for methods that year was only 46 ...
Wow. You really showed them Ninwapower. :knuppel2:
Post by: jimmy999 on October 16, 2009, 01:58:42 pm
Post by: khalil on October 16, 2009, 08:24:01 pm
Post by: ReVeL on October 16, 2009, 08:35:11 pm
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on October 17, 2009, 12:30:41 am
I think that you can ensure a high mark in any subject with pure hard work. I went to the Methods exam feeling confident I would do well. I did tonnes of trial papers, did most of checkpoints by June, did ExamBusters, Neap, A+ notes, A+ exams etc - you will find that most people who DO get high in Methods have done a lot of work. Maths subjects = practice, practice, practice. Do tonnes of practice exams - this REALLY REALLY helps. Especially if you're motivated enough to give yourself reading time, checking time etc - you'll find the improvement amazing if you persevere.
Post by: Fyrefly on October 17, 2009, 12:43:46 am
Brutally honest: I worked a lot. And true, it annoys me when people lie about how much work they've done - 'oh I did 3 essays before the Eng exam and I got a 50' - some friend's friend said that.
The sad thing is... I'm not lying when I say I didn't do all that many practice exams... >.>"
Your dedication and perseverance is really admirable!
I hope you get rewarded for it with a big, fat, juicy scholarship! ^_^
Post by: TrueTears on October 17, 2009, 12:45:22 am
Brutally honest: I worked a lot. And true, it annoys me when people lie about how much work they've done - 'oh I did 3 essays before the Eng exam and I got a 50' - some friend's friend said that.Oh so true (especially for maths), practise and practise and you will reap the rewards.
I think that you can ensure a high mark in any subject with pure hard work. I went to the Methods exam feeling confident I would do well. I did tonnes of trial papers, did most of checkpoints by June, did ExamBusters, Neap, A+ notes, A+ exams etc - you will find that most people who DO get high in Methods have done a lot of work. Maths subjects = practice, practice, practice. Do tonnes of practice exams - this REALLY REALLY helps. Especially if you're motivated enough to give yourself reading time, checking time etc - you'll find the improvement amazing if you persevere.
Post by: NE2000 on October 17, 2009, 10:13:09 am
Otherwise totally agree, not just for maths but for science subjects too. Although I think some people do blitz methods without many trial papers just coz they are good at maths and do spesh at the same time (eg. shinny). I don't think it's possible to do that in English unless you have set a wonderful foundation for yourself in previous years and just know how to do everything.
Also if you are in year 11 then rather than waiting till next year to do your hardest work take advantage of the fact that you are doing only 1-2 subjects while majority of your 'competition' is grappling with 4-5.
Post by: QuantumJG on October 17, 2009, 11:06:25 am
They got lower SS than me I guess? The highest SS for methods that year was only 46 ...
That's better than our 42. lol ONLY 46
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Worked fairly hard, consistently studied through the year. Did ~25 exams all up, ended up with 40 raw, verrrrrry happy. Also, I was ranked number 1 in SACs, so it clearly wasn't an incredibly talented cohort..
Yeah our cohort wasn't too good either (if you compared us with people who got 49-50). One person got a 42, my friend got a 41 and 2 people got 40. At our school the study scores fluctuated a fair bit (it was rumoured that one person got a 23. There were 4 classes where 3 of them equally held the well performing students and 1 of them held the methods drop-kicks and my friend was put in the drop kick class (trust me he wasn't a drop kick, in year 11 he did better than me in terms of performance) :tickedoff:
Our methods teachers worked much harder at providing resources for us to do well in maths methods compared to our specialist maths teachers. Like actually running a mock exam 1 and exam 2 over the holidays and going through exam style questions over the holidays and they compiled a whole lot of questions from about 10 past exams (like heffernan, TSFX, etc), but I actually only did about 5 practice exams formally (that is what you mean by doing 25 practice exams).
But in the end I got a 39 and was very happy with it!!!
Post by: ReVeL on October 17, 2009, 03:06:46 pm
I think that you can ensure a high mark in any subject with pure hard work.
I disagree with this. Aside from the hard work you put it, there is also how you perform on the day (i.e. handle nerves) and your natural ability that determine your mark.
Post by: xXNovaxX on October 17, 2009, 03:09:40 pm
Totally agree. Some people just get mental blanks on the day!! So all that work throughout the weeks disappears :(. There is also the case of illness over the last few days before exams which prevents many from re-iterating what they have learnt.I think that you can ensure a high mark in any subject with pure hard work.
I disagree with this. Aside from the hard work you put it, there is also how you perform on the day (i.e. handle nerves) and your natural ability that determine your mark.
But hard work does form the basis of everything I guess.
Post by: sachinmachin on October 17, 2009, 05:45:34 pm
so what im trying to say is that hard work does pay off, but it must be specific. there is no point sitting there for 4 hours straight if your just flicking through your textbook or doing exam questions without thoroughly checking why/why you didnt get the answer wrong.
Post by: ninwa on October 17, 2009, 06:21:56 pm
I think that you can ensure a high mark in any subject with pure hard work.Not for arts subjects :P (by that I mean art, vis com, music, etc.)
That's better than our 42. lol ONLY 46:P that wasn't supposed to sound arrogant, I would've been OVERJOYED with 46. Just that my school usually gets at least one 49 or 50 each year, so comparatively, that was a crappy year.
(also the guy who got 46 was in year 10, got 46 for spesh in year 11, and ended up getting 99.95)
Post by: vexx on October 17, 2009, 07:16:36 pm
:P that wasn't supposed to sound arrogant, I would've been OVERJOYED with 46. Just that my school usually gets at least one 49 or 50 each year, so comparatively, that was a crappy year.
(also the guy who got 46 was in year 10, got 46 for spesh in year 11, and ended up getting 99.95)
that's amazing!!!! edit, as you answered my question.heh
Post by: ross huggard on October 19, 2009, 08:50:12 pm
Given that I already knew 95% plus of the methods course at the start of this year, I started doing practice exams in the middle of term 1. After 1st semester, I completed about 18 sets of exams, and currently I think I've completed around 40 sets. I only started doing past VCAA exams a few weeks before the term 3 holidays. I've still got about 10 more sets left and that will be about all I do.
get a life..
Post by: ross huggard on October 24, 2009, 07:15:32 pm
.. lighten up a bit?
Some people on this forum take themselves far too seriously..
Post by: ninwa on October 24, 2009, 08:24:48 pm
.. lighten up a bit?
yeah cos your comment was soOooOOoooOOo funny hahahhahahahah
Post by: ross huggard on October 24, 2009, 09:25:39 pm
.. lighten up a bit?
yeah cos your comment was soOooOOoooOOo funny hahahhahahahah
thanks ninwa:)
Post by: Fyrefly on October 25, 2009, 11:14:18 am
.. lighten up a bit?
yeah cos your comment was soOooOOoooOOo funny hahahhahahahah
Read: Sarcasm
thanks ninwa:)
Post by: ross huggard on October 25, 2009, 10:13:21 pm
Post by: Fyrefly on October 25, 2009, 10:32:24 pm
i dont think any sarcasm wasnt meant.. was it ninwa? :coolsmiley:
Double negative phail?
Post by: ngRISING on October 26, 2009, 02:02:09 pm
Post by: dekoyl on October 26, 2009, 02:03:24 pm
what grades do i need for a 35.I think it's A A A (not sure high or low - you could ask around. Some people that did methods last year on VN got 35 but they'll tell you if they want to).
Post by: BiG DaN on October 26, 2009, 02:09:02 pm
what grades do i need for a 35.I think it's A A A (not sure high or low - you could ask around. Some people that did methods last year on VN got 35 but they'll tell you if they want to).
i got 36
a,a,b+
cant remember order of GA but i think the B+ was on exam 2
Post by: Trent on October 26, 2009, 02:19:33 pm
For History I got A A+ A and I did a lot more work for that then Geography and got 38.
Post by: EvangelionZeta on November 02, 2009, 12:14:08 am
Post by: ninwa on November 04, 2009, 05:51:54 pm
i dont think any sarcasm wasnt meant.. was it ninwa? :coolsmiley:
... what?
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on November 10, 2009, 11:19:27 am
Given that I already knew 95% plus of the methods course at the start of this year, I started doing practice exams in the middle of term 1. After 1st semester, I completed about 18 sets of exams, and currently I think I've completed around 40 sets. I only started doing past VCAA exams a few weeks before the term 3 holidays. I've still got about 10 more sets left and that will be about all I do.
get a life..
That's really mean. I think jimmy999 has done an extraordinary feat. I really dislike it when people make such irrelevant comments. People on the other forum - Board of Studies - told me to get a life when I mentioned I had completed the Methods course over the holidays. It was none of their business.
We should be appreciating that some people work hard and not be telling them to 'get a life'.
Post by: ngRISING on November 10, 2009, 11:24:00 am
Given that I already knew 95% plus of the methods course at the start of this year, I started doing practice exams in the middle of term 1. After 1st semester, I completed about 18 sets of exams, and currently I think I've completed around 40 sets. I only started doing past VCAA exams a few weeks before the term 3 holidays. I've still got about 10 more sets left and that will be about all I do.
get a life..
That's really mean. I think jimmy999 has done an extraordinary feat. I really dislike it when people make such irrelevant comments. People on the other forum - Board of Studies - told me to get a life when I mentioned I had completed the Methods course over the holidays. It was none of their business.
We should be appreciating that some people work hard and not be telling them to 'get a life'.
lol. depends on context. if he mentions he did 40 sets in this thread then i reckon its fine. but if someone out of no where just goes hey man i did 40 exams in 24hours.[exaggeration but you should get what i mean] . a) your just a show off b) do i give a sh** ? i am not saying you are/you did but im just saying when people say it randomly :S
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on November 10, 2009, 11:35:21 am
Post by: appianway on November 10, 2009, 11:52:46 am
lol i know, if people boast about such things - they do appear as though they're showing off. when i mentioned about the methods course, that was in context but some rude person asked me 'are you asian? i think you should get a life.' how rude and prejudiced.
That sounds incredibly bigoted. People who don't know me always presume that my grades are mediocre, that I'm a humanities student and that I'm studying something like 2nd grade music because I'm white.
And besides, it's your choice if you want to study anyway. :)
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on November 10, 2009, 11:58:23 am
I'm aware of who you are =) You're very smart, and always appear in the school newsletter for various achievements. Your nationality has no impact on your personal interests and what you study. I think it's annoying that some people are prejudiced.
Did you do year 9 debating? If so, you might remember me - we were year 10s stressing over our debate =P I think you asked us for an argument you could use or something.
Post by: appianway on November 10, 2009, 12:02:54 pm
I wouldn't describe myself as very smart, but I do find it frustrating that there's that undercurrent of racism in society.
And yes, I did year 9 debating :) I think I remember you most from the Maths Olympics though (I was in the other team though...) :P
I sound like such a stalker. :)
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on November 10, 2009, 12:06:26 pm
I'm constantly surprised by how people seem to know my name. It's not like I'm extremely involved in the school co-curricular activities or anything.
Definitely frustrating. I really don't like it when people stereotype others into categories. For instance, everyone thought I'd do the UMAT. I never even told people I had such plans, when I came to school on the day of the UMAT, everyone was oh so surprised. It annoyed me that people immediately thought - 'Asian. Hardworking. She'll try for Med.' It made me almost second guess why I wanted to do Commerce.
Nah you don't =P Who got the Eng Lang award this year - you?
Post by: appianway on November 10, 2009, 12:34:09 pm
Med's become somewhat of a cliche at our school - I think people should study what they're interested in, and if this happens to be Med, great! But I think a lot of people fall into the trap of applying for something that sounds prestigious, without considering where their strengths and interests lie.
Post by: EvangelionZeta on November 10, 2009, 12:34:46 pm
lol i know, if people boast about such things - they do appear as though they're showing off. when i mentioned about the methods course, that was in context but some rude person asked me 'are you asian? i think you should get a life.' how rude and prejudiced.
That sounds incredibly bigoted. People who don't know me always presume that my grades are mediocre, that I'm a humanities student and that I'm studying something like 2nd grade music because I'm white.
And besides, it's your choice if you want to study anyway. :)
OMG, I get the same thing except it's the other way around. People assume that I do the Asian Five, that I'm interested in Med, that I study all the time and that I have no life just because I'm Asian. >.>
I love to see people's reactions when I tell them I don't do Science. :D
-back to study...lol-
Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on November 10, 2009, 12:36:22 pm
I love to see people's reactions when I tell them I don't do Science. :D
I would be more surprised if you didn't do Methods though D:
Post by: lorcan_raven on October 30, 2010, 11:40:48 am
I have stereotypes assumed about me also, not on my skin by my hobbies :S
I am very committed to acting/directing at my school, and do theatre studies because of it, and I love it...
But everyone who doesn't know me just assumes I'm illiterate and only do performance subjects.
When in reality I'm doing 2 maths, an Asian second language, and I did Psych last year.
Oh, and I've got perfect marks in every English SAC.
Someone actually asked me why I did Methods and not "Drama or something like that" the other day...
The funniest part of my response came about when I proved I had doubled each of their Methods SACs that year.
Yes I do theatre, but I'm also a diverse VCE student like everyone else here, I don't appreciate your assumptions that I can be "categorized" from your biased, peripheral judgement of me! :D
(L) methods!