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Title: Year 10 work experience
Post by: Joseph41 on May 16, 2018, 07:22:24 am
Is this also a thing in NSW?

Regardless, keen to hear your work experience... experiences.

I applied to the MCG and The Leader, which is my local newspaper. Got rejected from both. The former worked on a ballot system; I can't remember what reason the latter gave.

I ended up doing graphic design at a relatively large transport consultancy firm (founded by a family friend, so that helped lol). I wouldn't say I really enjoyed the experience at the time, but it was probably worth doing.
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: K888 on May 16, 2018, 07:33:07 am
I did mine at the local hospital in the allied health department. Got to shadow the physios, OTs, dieticians, speech pathologists, etc. for a week which was awesome. Definitely put me on the path that I'm on at the moment! 
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: heids on May 16, 2018, 08:46:20 am
Never got to do work experience.
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: Joseph41 on May 16, 2018, 08:50:30 am
Never got to do work experience.

Was this a school-related thing?
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: katie,rinos on May 16, 2018, 09:03:22 am
Is this also a thing in NSW?

Regardless, keen to hear your work experience... experiences.
Yep, definitely a thing in NSW

I did my work experience with a primary music teacher who I'd already known. It was pretty cool as she trusted me to lead/teach a class of kindergarten and a class of year 1 kids. I also got to bring my clarinet and help out with their school band. Had a bit of paperwork and forms to help with but most of it was really fun! :D
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: owidjaja on May 16, 2018, 11:59:00 am
I think it's a NSW thing but some schools make work experience compulsory.

It wasn't compulsory at my school but I did 3 sets of work experiences in Year 10:

Western Earthmoving: Civil engineering company where I stayed for a whole week with the site engineer and the site manager. Had to get a White Card induction card so I can step into construction sites. Kinda helped them calculate the price of concrete for the footpath and measure the depth of the road so the council can approve them (the construction sites were like 5-10 minutes away from my home lol). It was a pretty interesting experience because I was able to talk to construction workers about their experiences, even though I wasn't aiming to go to civil engineering.

UNSW Civil & Environmental Engineering: Only 60 people in NSW were accepted to this program and I (somehow) managed to get accepted. Funnily enough, my school was so extra they invited the local newspaper. It was really enjoyable because I was able to meet a bunch of people who liked engineering, even though some of them weren't into civil or environmental engineering like myself.

Air Service Australia: The other two went for 5 days but this one went for 3 days- probably because your work experience is really limited. It was really cool to sit in the air traffic control towers at Sydney Airport and Bankstown Airport. I sat with a whole bunch of air traffic controllers and watched them direct the airplanes in and out of the runway. Bankstown Airport was really small but it was a bit more chill than Sydney Airport. Even though I just sat there, it was cool to see the people who directed air traffic.
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: heids on May 16, 2018, 06:00:57 pm
Was this a school-related thing?

Didn't do year 10 haha.
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: Joseph41 on May 16, 2018, 06:05:17 pm
Didn't do year 10 haha.

Oh yeah, no shit!

But they still had it at your school?
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: thelonelyassassin on May 16, 2018, 06:15:30 pm
my work experience starts at August and im doing it at a library, land surveying and i sent my application to CSIRO but i havent gotten accepted yet
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: Joseph41 on May 16, 2018, 06:21:28 pm
my work experience starts at August and im doing it at a library, land surveying and i sent my application to CSIRO but i havent gotten accepted yet

Nice one! Are you looking forward to it?
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: WhompingWillow on May 16, 2018, 09:08:07 pm
I'm doing year 10 work experience this year in the faculty of science at UoM.
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: Aaron on May 16, 2018, 09:09:33 pm
I left my work experience until the last minute as per usual... ended up doing a round at the Meals on Wheels kitchen. I had a family member who worked there.

Ended up being one of the most rewarding experiences i've had to date.

It was a really early start aroundabout 5:30am every morning and finished up at 1:30pm. Included cooking, packaging, delivery to elderly etc. Got paid the minimum and a free feed.  8) At the time I was in heaven



.. when I was in Year 10, my social skills were very poor. So at that time I took what I could get  :-[
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: vox nihili on May 16, 2018, 09:34:10 pm
I did mine at the private school down the road. I had asked our junior campus principal whether I could go back there for work experience, but his wife worked at this school and she arranged it for me.

It was a really great environment. I worked with the French and the English teachers, both of whom were really lovely. The English teacher was probably a bit formal, but the French teacher was really down to earth, which I enjoyed. He also let me run some of his classes, which was great.

The environment really struck me though. It was the first time I'd ever been inside a private school, and I actually found the differences kind of confronting. The students would show up, sit in their seats and do work. They'd bring homework in too. Nobody swore at the teacher, people got kicked out for minor things that I did pretty much every lesson. Most of the students weren't even aware my school existed, despite it being a kilometre down the road. Really eye opening!

Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: sarangiya on May 19, 2018, 03:54:16 pm
I did two weeks of Work Experience. Both were during the holidays, which freed up our compulsory week in October in favour of exam preparation time for me.

The Royal Women's Hospital
This was a group experience with around 10 students. We were all assigned a timetable for the week and we're either alone or partnered up. .
Maternity Service
I was able to experience the maternity service on Monday and Wednesday, which involved shadowing nurses in the antenatal and postnatal wards.
Some highlights were seeing a baby have its first hearing test, measuring a newborn, feeling a new mother's fundus and getting stocks and supplies (I felt useful for once lol).
Women's Health Clinic
This was a highly fascinating rotation. We learnt about several specialised examinations, as well as conditions specific to women.
I vividly remember thinking about women who have experienced female genital mutilation after hearing about it from some very experienced and capable nurses.
Allied Health
In this rotation, I was able to sit on consultations with a dietician. It was a pleasure to be an observer of a genuine interaction between health professional and client. I also attended a gestational diabetes information session with Arabic women and their partners. It was interesting to see how cross-cultural interactions were handled, and to witness the intimacy of something I had imagined to be very cold and disconnected. I was then able to attend a class for expecting mothers with the physiotherapist. We did pelvic floor exercises. I always thought they were relatively easy, but they hard to hold for a long time.

At the time, I had written in my application that I was interesting in Speech Pathology. Unfortunately, the speech pathologist wasn’t there so I couldn’t experience that.
Pathology
This was my favourite rotation. We saw the histology and haematology laboratories and were exposed to quite a lot.
I went on a pathology collection, which involved sorting and sending around bloods in the tubing system and picking up tissue samples.

In the histology lab, my partner and I got to see the dissection of a uterus with fibroids. It was massive and just entirely surprising. We saw the technician make mm-thick slices and prepare them for examination. I also got to see mitosis under a high-power microscope, which was awesome.
Histology was by far the most interesting and somewhat confronting. I had thought to myself while looking at the uterus: was this removed by hysterectomy? If it was, how was that woman living now? After hearing some other growths in the uterus could be malignant, and that the cervix was still attached, I wondered if perhaps she had died. We also saw a room where miscarried or stillborn children were examined, which was obviously confronting. While collecting tissue samples, there was also a miscarried fetus in formaldehyde. I wondered if it would be tested for genetic abnormalities in that room. It was an extremely, extremely unique experience.

On the other hand, the haematology lab was not quite as interesting. It was extremely hi-tech, but that provided some insight into the career outlook for that area. While there were several technicians and a resident pathologist for histology, only one technician watched over the bloods and gave the machines a jiggle if they weren’t working properly.
When people talk about automation of jobs, this is the finest example in my opinion.
End-of-Day Tours
At the end of each day, we went as a large group around several areas of the hospital to listen to researchers or professionals about different topics.
We heard from pharmacy students, the neonatal ICU nurses, in-house interpreters/translators, theatre nurses and the research team.

All sessions were fantastic, but my favourite was the research team. They talked about stem-cell research, since a women’s hospital is quite bountiful in stem cells. It was amazing to see the massive vats of liquid nitrogen and the price tags associated with them. It was really cool to see another area of the health sector.
All in all, it was an amazing experience and I thoroughly enjoyed experiencing the Royal Women’s. I still have my staff lanyard hung up in my room.
For those interested in an experience in the future:
> Applications open and close very early in the year, so think about it ahead of Year 10.
> The application is written in a template, from memory you don’t need your CV.
> It may vary, but it was 9AM-4PM for me from memory.
> My week was the final week of June, but from memory there were more than one week it ran.
> https://www.thewomens.org.au/careers/work-experience

The Royal Melbourne Hospital
This week of experience was pivotal in my life.
Why I decided to apply
At the time of applying for The Royal Women’s, I was still interested in Speech Pathology and possibly medical translation. I was also a vegetarian who loathed the sight of anything remotely animal-esque. Even before becoming vegetarian, I could not touch raw meat with or without gloves or anything. A little pansy like me, applying for a surgical rotation at a hospital… doesn’t quite add up, right?
I have to admit, I knew I wasn’t weak to the sight of blood, and watched a plastic surgeon’s Snapchat broadcast of BBLs, vaginoplasties, rhinoplasties, you name it, everyday. I knew I wouldn’t be a problem, and yet I was convinced I wouldn’t like surgery.
But, “unfortunately”, the only work experience programs available were “neurosurgery”, “domiciliary services” (or something food-related, anyway) or “perioperative services”. So I decide, on a whim (I was quite happy with a normal one-week Work Experience like every else!), that I would try my luck.
I was lucky enough to be the only student accepted! And since then, I have regarded that chance I took has been a defining point in my life.
I applied and was accepted into the “perioperative services” work experience position. This rotation included a full week observing (i.e. outside the sterile field) surgical procedures in the Day Procedure Unit in 3 East. There was no fixed timetable, but rather a supervisor tried to fit me into any openings she could organise.
General Surgery
I was in General Surgery for a whole day, which was probably my favourite day of the week.
Being with the same team, eating lunch together, and still even being in contact with one of the nurses, all made the experience feel similar to what it would be like if I were really a member of staff.
I was lucky enough to scrub-in (i.e. entering inside the sterile field) to two procedures. This was an extremely rare and fantastic experience I was lucky to have. I was able to feel a man’s inguinal hernia and mark the difference between the regular and herniated intestinal wall. I was able to hold a whole thyroid gland that had been removed. It was definitely surreal, and what I thought was ‘once-in-a-lifetime’.
Procedures:
> Parathyroidectomy
> Inguinal Hernia
> Bilateral ingrown toenail
> Total thyroidectomy
Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery
I was probably in plastics for most of the week, which I actually loved. The atmosphere and surgeons were a lot more relaxed. The procedures seemed more simplistic, but I was also offered by a registrar to scrub in with him for a major skin graft. It is one of the things I regret to this day, but I was unable to go because my supervisor was keen to get me to observe neurosurgery. I kick myself for agreeing every time I remember it.
That same registrar has become an inspiration to me - a really awesome and successful guy (even though he told me I was too “”eloquent”” (lol) for surgery :'(). Overall, plastics was a lot of fun.
Procedures:
> Debridement of right forearm
> Repairing(?) a hand fracture with steel rod guns (involved x-ray, which is interesting)
> Debridement of infection on left forearm and skin graft from thigh
> Left forearm debridement of foreign bodies (lol istg my notes from this week…)
> Dog bite cleaning and debridement of wound in Hep C patient
Orthopedic Surgery
Ortho was crazy! The sole thing I thought through every procedure was “I definitely couldn’t do this when that extremity probably weighs more than the whole of me”. But I will say every procedure was fun to watch and left you astonished.
For example, someone was a victim to (lol) MUA (manipulation of anaesthesia). It makes me laugh now that I didn’t note down what was manipulated but it was a leg for sure. From the viewpoint of a 15-year-old, it literally looked like a yank and a push and wow, suddenly fixed. Crazy.
There were also some cool machines/systems like the light and camera used for an arthroscopic wash-out of a knee. By far, though, seeing a hip replacement was almost confronting. The surgeon was (apart from being an extremely friendly and lovely to me) a massively tall, strong man who literally squatted right to the floor and then yanked out the joint in a rowing-style heave. Intimidating lol. Anyway, great fun and an awesome option for anyone who doesn’t weigh <40kg lmao.
Procedures:
> Clavicle reattached to shoulder with metal plate (very technical, good job me)
> MUA (Manipulation Under Anaesthesia)
> Arthroscopic washout of knee
> Hip replacement
Urology
This was also an amazing day. Apart from the surgery, I was able to meet this amazing student who was also observing. He said he had dropped out of school in Year 10 to become an electrician, to then completing a Bachelor at the University of Sydney and following it up with an MD at Melbourne Uni. Thoroughly fascinating journey. His story really solidified my support of vocational training.

The procedure, though, was out of this world. It was a robotic prostatectomy and cystectomy. So essentially, this man was having his prostate and bladder removed and a stent (an opening that allows him to urinate) made from his ileum, which was performed laparoscopically by two surgeons… operating a robotic surgical manipulator! (See/read about it here).
It was beyond amazing to watch.
Cardiothoracic Surgery
I was able to watch one cardiothoracic surgical procedure (albiet almost entirely through a screen, as high infection risk meant I was stuck in a little corner lol). It was a aortic valve replacement with coronary artery bypass. This involves the replacement of the heart valves with mechanical or biological tissue alternatives (though, I didn’t know which in this case). It also involves a coronary artery bypass graft. This means taking a vessel from elsewhere in the body (the leg, in this case) and attaching it to the heart and around a blockage, like a detour for blood flow. It was very, very cool.
It also carries some mortality risk, which made the atmosphere a lot more tense than what it was in plastics, for example. In plastics, I had great banter with music banging in the background, but during this surgery, no-one dared speak.
Neurosurgery
I was very happy to think that I wasn’t disadvantaged choosing the perioperative surgery rotation as opposed to the neurosurgery option.
I was able to see a stereotactic craniotomy and excision of lesion, although I didn’t get to seem the excision part. I was able to see the skull bone lifted off and put into a bath of saline, and the brain underneath. I will admit, that was pretty unreal.
I also found the GPS-tool the surgeon used very interesting. I forget how it was meant to work, but it was used to map and determine where the incisions should be made, and it looked even more like a video game than the surgical manipulator lmao.

But, I wasn’t as keen on this procedure as others. It was a very long procedure (I didn’t even get to see the end of it) and I was hurting knowing I was missing out elsewhere.
I was also kept right away, similarly to the bypass/valve replacement, because of the infection risk. But not only that, I was kept away because the neurosurgeons are apparently notoriously obnoxious. The surgeon’s reputation preceded him, with nurses whispering about his arrogance despite being so young (and a ‘mere’ registrar). I was skeptical, but actually a little more intrigued because being a young surgeon is somewhat of a feat in itself. I couldn’t tell how old he was, but his hair cap was superhero-themed. I wondered if was for the entertainment of paediatric patients, only to think that this is adult surgery, and afaik you can’t do both.

Similarly to cardio, the atmosphere was tense and awkward, and no-one interacted with each other. It was interesting, but perhaps not the best first impression.
As I mentioned, this week really has made a profound impact on me. Most obviously, my career aspirations changed dramatically from Speech Pathologist to Surgeon (particularly liking plastics at the time). The week was honestly far beyond what I ever thought I could get. I was so unbelievably lucky to be accepted, and honestly it feels a bit like fate.
For those interested:
> There are 4 weeks of offered, all with different application periods. I went for the first week of July. The April week’s application is in February, so that’s an early decision. The other weeks are to be applied for about a month prior.
> Applications are made through the Melbourne Health Recruitment website (pretty much the employment portal for all available positions)
> My application involved a CV and letter of interest.
> Some programs take several people. I believe the neurosurgery rotation had two girls (I saw them in the change rooms lol). Maybe mine did too, but they didn’t show? Who knows.
> I can only assume from that the competition for the program is quite something.
> My hours were 8AM-4PM (yes, the 5AM train for me…)
> You will be wearing scrubs
> https://www.thermh.org.au/health-professionals/careers/work-experience

This literally is a massive post and took me several days to write, but I just had to lmao. Anyone who can access these areas and has an inkling of interest in medicine, nursing or the health sector, just apply! Cannot guarantee more an amazing experience.
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: appleandbee on May 19, 2018, 06:08:33 pm

That sounds amazing :D If I could go back in time, give my interests, I would try to do those placements.

I did my work experience at British Petroleum as well as an environmental engineering firm. I found the experience do be decent as it gave me the experience of working in an office environment, got paid well (like $20-30 per day) and did actual stuff (made a bunch of graphs and glossary reports). I got the placements through emailing (the manager of the engineering firm went to the brother school of my high school so he was keen lol). That said, I knew from those placements that I didn't want to be an engineer (I found the tasks fine, but the projects from which the data was coming from didn't fascinate me even though I understood the importance), I preferred analysing environmental issues from other perspectives, namely environmental law and policy and environmental journalism (or maybe even the science of it from a studying perspective). At that time, I also applied for a few architecture and urban planning/design firms in which I did get offered placements but didn't accept them. I was interested in engineering and architecture during my middle and late high school years. I didn't apply for anything related to the areas that I am currently interested in (law, public health, medicine or a good journalism publication like The Guardian). I didn't apply for hospital placements because I wasn't really interested in medicine then and a lot of people in my school were doing them and it seemed like the cliche/mainstream thing to do. I also didn't believe that good journalism publications existed since I didn't want to do work experience at the Herald Sun/Mx or even the Theage to some extent.

Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: NowYouTseMe on May 19, 2018, 07:34:50 pm
I'm not too sure if it's compulsory state-wide in NSW but my school made it compulsory to do at least 5 days of work experience in Year 10.
I ended up applying to a whole bunch of law firms and courts by just ringing the contact numbers on their websites but received no offer - I later learned that my mate ended up spending a week shadowing a NSW Supreme Court judge because they were an alumni and he made the contact through the Old Boys' network, which would have been a much better approach.

What ended up happening was I met an ex-student who was staffing at a politician's office at a careers/uni event my school put on and politics, while not directly related to my interest in law was somewhat related and beat going to my old primary school, which was what the really desperate guys in my grade ended up doing. I was also pretty desperate but I really detested the idea of wasting a whole week doing nothing related to my interests.

There, I ended up doing mostly menial paperwork, but eventually they let me have a crack at speechwriting to add to the collection they had for potential delivery - definitely the highlight of my week. What I gained from my week at the politician's office (unfortunately parliament was sitting at the time haha) was a small taste of the political process through interacting with all the staffers, as well as an insight into differing political viewpoints from actual conversations with people. As a result of my time at the office, I ended up doing my own research into political theory, forming my own opinions and eventually getting involved in the political process.

At the time, I wasn't too politically active, but now I'm that person that always brings up politics in conversation(probably not a good thing but I've been trying to cut it down recently), and I attribute that shift in character to my time doing work experience.
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: Poet on May 19, 2018, 07:54:51 pm
Oh wow, so many cool work experience placements! Did anyone else get a ‘rating’ from their employer, or was that just something my school did?

I did mine at Charles Darwin University before they moved campuses – a little placebo hospital ward for nurses-in-training. I had previously applied to Victoria Police, but they only accepted a couple of people out of hundreds of applicants, hence I was not offered a placement.
Although not my original choice, CDU was a lot of fun, and everything was real except for the dummy patients and the medication. I learned a lot about first aid and stitching people back together and inserting catheters and butterfly IVs, even though I got the flu the week before so missed the first day of placement due to illness. If I remember correctly, they gave me the title of ‘assistant product manager’. And now I know how to stab people with sharp things in the proper way. Lots of fun. Also, it was a 2 minute walk from the Queen Vic Markets, so every day was butter chicken day. ;D

Also, because it was a certified university, I didn’t actually get paid for my work. However, I believe the pay was in the training, confidence, independence and experience much more than the actual moolah involved (or lack of its involvement). My employer also offered to act as a referee on my resume, which led to the job I have now. ^-^
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: sarangiya on May 19, 2018, 09:37:23 pm
Did anyone else get a ‘rating’ from their employer, or was that just something my school did?
Yes! Our school had feedback forms and the RMH was lovely enough to fill them out.

That's awesome you got a job out of it!
Sounds like a great experience you had too :)
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: thelonelyassassin on May 25, 2018, 09:07:04 pm
Nice one! Are you looking forward to it?
yes i cant wait. most people at my school are working at retail so im pretty much the only one with a remotely interesting job
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: Joseph41 on July 19, 2018, 05:21:29 pm
yes i cant wait. most people at my school are working at retail so im pretty much the only one with a remotely interesting job

Sorry for the late reply, but yeah, that sounds awesome! Really keen to hear updates on how you're finding it etc. when the time comes in August. :)
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: Owlbird83 on August 07, 2018, 08:26:35 pm
my work experience starts at August and im doing it at a library, land surveying and i sent my application to CSIRO but i havent gotten accepted yet

I also did work experience at the CSIRO. But instead of applying, I rang people who worked there asking if I could do it with them (Because my school required me to find a placement before the date I would find out if I was accepted or not.). I did it in the Education and Outreach sector and it was really great! It was interesting experiencing working in an office with a desk and stuff, and the people were all really nice. I also was able to go on some tours to see labs and some machinery and stuff they do there. 10/10 :D
Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: trql.tea on October 25, 2018, 05:50:50 pm
I did mine at Charles Darwin University before they moved campuses – a little placebo hospital ward for nurses-in-training.
hi,
I'm currently applying for work experience and I was wondering where/how you contacted Charles Darwin University to do work experience there?


Title: Re: Year 10 work experience
Post by: Poet on October 25, 2018, 06:05:35 pm
hi,
I'm currently applying for work experience and I was wondering where/how you contacted Charles Darwin University to do work experience there?
Hey, trql.tea, welcome to ATAR Notes! :D

I applied through my school - they had offered a position on their Melbourne campus for one student, so I entered my name via my school's career counselor and a little resume we wrote at school, and was accepted for a week. You can ask your school's career counselor about applying to universities or hospitals, or you can contact the university via their website. However, I'm not confident they're still offering positions in work experience... or if they still reside in the same building as they have on their website! When I was there, they were talking about moving, as I'd mentioned. So just be aware that this particular opportunity may not be open at the moment, but don't let that discourage you at all - try it out and see what happens.
(Note: Work experience for a uni means volunteer work - 9-5, no pay but nevertheless a rewarding experience.)
Wishing you all the best! If you have further enquiries feel free to PM me.