ATAR Notes: Forum
VCE Stuff => VTAC Discussion => Topic started by: PhoenixxFire on December 14, 2018, 11:33:06 am
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This has popped up a few times this morning, so I'm just going to make a thread - anyone else feel free to add anything I forget.
I didn't get the guaranteed ATAR! What now?
The guaranteed ATAR is just that - a guarantee. If you get that, then great! No need to worry - you'll get an offer. If you don't get the required ATAR, You can still get an offer. You're not guaranteed an offer, however Melbourne/Monash will still consider you (and your SEAS points) when giving out offers! So if you want to enrol in a course but missed out, then leave it in your preferences. You may still be given an offer in first round or subsequent rounds based on your selection rank (ATAR+SEAS+bonus points=selection rank).
It is worth considering including courses in your preference list that have a lower entry requirement in case you miss out, but don't remove a course that you want just because you don't think you'll get in!
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Going to link to this into the OP of the After Year 12 Q + A thread. Thanks PF!
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What are my chances of getting into Melb Uni biomed with an atar of 92? (minimum atar is 95)
I'm ineligible for Access Melb but I did apply for SEAS category 1 and received the Monash Guarantee, which means I may still get SEAS points.
Should I change my first preference from biomed to science so that I can receive a definite first round offer (minimum atar for science is 85), accept it and then place biomed as my first pref to see if I get a second round offer? Or should I keep biomed as my first pref from the outset? I just don't want to deal with the anxiety of not getting a first round offer :(
Sorry for asking for many questions, thanks for your help in advance!
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What are my chances of getting into Melb Uni biomed with an atar of 92? (minimum atar is 95)
I'm ineligible for Access Melb but I did apply for SEAS category 1 and received the Monash Guarantee, which means I may still get SEAS points.
Should I change my first preference from biomed to science so that I can receive a definite first round offer (minimum atar for science is 85), accept it and then place biomed as my first pref to see if I get a second round offer? Or should I keep biomed as my first pref from the outset? I just don't want to deal with the anxiety of not getting a first round offer :(
Sorry for asking for many questions, thanks for your help in advance!
nonono no.
Don't change your preferences. If you don't get round 1 unimelb biomed offer then VTAC will look at your next course and see if you can get that one (still in round one). Only put it higher on your preference list if you want to get into it more.
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nonono no.
Don't change your preferences. If you don't get round 1 unimelb biomed offer then VTAC will look at your next course and see if you can get that one (still in round one). Only put it higher on your preference list if you want to get into it more.
Gotcha. Does placing science as my 2nd pref decrease my chances of getting into it during first round offers?
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What are my chances of getting into Melb Uni biomed with an atar of 92? (minimum atar is 95)
I'm ineligible for Access Melb but I did apply for SEAS category 1 and received the Monash Guarantee, which means I may still get SEAS points.
Should I change my first preference from biomed to science so that I can receive a definite first round offer (minimum atar for science is 85), accept it and then place biomed as my first pref to see if I get a second round offer? Or should I keep biomed as my first pref from the outset? I just don't want to deal with the anxiety of not getting a first round offer :(
Sorry for asking for many questions, thanks for your help in advance!
If you qualify for any of your preferences then you'll definitely receive a first round offer. That's the point of preferences.
Definitely don't need to apologise for asking questions, this is exactly the sort of things we want to clear up before preferences close :)
Gotcha. Does placing science as my 2nd pref decrease my chances of getting into it during first round offers?
The only way having it second would affect your chances of getting in would be if you got into your first preference
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The only way having it second would affect your chances of getting in would be if you got into your first preference
I understand now, cheers. For some reason I always thought that you only get notified about offers for your 1st pref :o
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I qualify for 3 categories of SEAS and achieved a 68 ATAR. Would entering a course with a clearly in rank of 85 at Melbourne University (bachelor of arts) be possible if I keep it first preference?
(somebody last year got accepted with a 57)
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I qualify for 3 categories of SEAS and achieved a 68 ATAR. Would entering a course with a clearly in rank of 85 at Melbourne be possible if I keep it first preference?
(somebody last year got accepted with a 52)
Given that someone got in last year with lower then it's definitely possible. If it's what you want then definitely leave it first - you have 0 chance if you remove it. Also consider other possible pathways in though in case you don't get it :)
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I qualify for 3 categories of SEAS and achieved a 68 ATAR. Would entering a course with a clearly in rank of 85 at Melbourne University (bachelor of arts) be possible if I keep it first preference?
(somebody last year got accepted with a 52)
Yeah, you're still in with a fighting chance, especially if that ATAR was without SEAS and subject bonuses.
Note: Beaten by PF.
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Yeah, you're still in with a fighting chance, especially if that ATAR was without SEAS and subject bonuses.
Note: Beaten by PF.
Okay hopefully that’s enough, do you know how to check if i’m eligible for subject bonuses for the uni of melb?
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Okay hopefully that’s enough, do you know how to check if i’m eligible for subject bonuses for the uni of melb?
Still working on this. Will edit this post if I do/don't end up finding whether subject bonuses still exist at UoM; they did back in 2014 from memory. Sorry for the delay, but I'm trying now. Hang tight and I'll be back.
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Okay hopefully that’s enough, do you know how to check if i’m eligible for subject bonuses for the uni of melb?
Still working on this. Will edit this post if I do/don't end up finding whether subject bonuses still exist at UoM; they did back in 2014 from memory. Sorry for the delay, but I'm trying now. Hang tight and I'll be back.
I don't believe UoM have them anymore as usually the VTAC page for the course would state that they do under selection rank adjustments
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I don't believe UoM have them anymore as usually the VTAC page for the course would state that they do under selection rank adjustments
Yeah... that sucks to hear. Sometimes VTAC Course Search doesn't quite have everything on there, so I was holding out hope for that.
Thanks for the information, MB_ !
Terribly sorry to everyone I have misled.
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hi. I applied for seas category 2 and 3 (financial difficulties) but for some odd reason i did not get a text or email from Access Melbourne. I got one from Monash but I dont know why melbourne uni hasn’t accepted my eligibility???? I am well below average regarding my financial state so it makes me more than eligible in a way. Can someone please help me out? I gave unimelb a call and they said they cant see whether I am eligible or not, So should i go to the university myself or contact vtac?? thanks :-\
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hi. I applied for seas category 2 and 3 (financial difficulties) but for some odd reason i did not get a text or email from Access Melbourne. I got one from Monash but I dont know why melbourne uni hasn’t accepted my eligibility???? I am well below average regarding my financial state so it makes me more than eligible in a way. Can someone please help me out? I gave unimelb a call and they said they cant see whether I am eligible or not, So should i go to the university myself or contact vtac?? thanks :-\
It could've been that Melbourne didn't accept it or it could've been a mistake. I guess it might be better to go contact VTAC at this rate.
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It could've been that Melbourne didn't accept it or it could've been a mistake. I guess it might be better to go contact VTAC at this rate.
I agree. Would you think a mistake like this can be fixed?? Or is it too late because they have sent out emails already...
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It could've been that Melbourne didn't accept it or it could've been a mistake. I guess it might be better to go contact VTAC at this rate.
I applied for 3 categories and not even monash or melbourne has accepted it which is absurd because I know tons of people who have lied in their applications and got accepted, which I did not. Does SEAS still apply in this case, like will they still consider my SEAS adjusted ATAR or only if I get melbourne access?
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I missed the Monash guarantee atar by 3.5 atar points. What is the chance of me still getting accepted?
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I missed the Monash guarantee atar by 3.5 atar points. What is the chance of me still getting accepted?
I'd recommend using the Monash SEAS caluculator and calculating any subject bonus points you might receive for the courses you're interested in, to get the best idea.
Hope this helps :)
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I'd recommend using the Monash SEAS caluculator and calculating any subject bonus points you might receive for the courses you're interested in, to get the best idea.
Hope this helps :)
How does Monash determine how high or low the difficult circumstance is?
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How does Monash determine how high or low the difficult circumstance is?
I'm just guessing here so don't take this as fact - I'm not aware of the information on their process being available.
For something like financial disadvantage (for example), it's normally judged on centerlink payments. The amount of these payments varies depending on a number of factors, mostly income. I'd imagine that people who are receiving the maximum centerlink payment would be deemed to have higher disadvantage than those who are also receiving a payment but are receiving less payment. This is just my theory though.
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I missed the Monash guarantee atar by 3.5 atar points. What is the chance of me still getting accepted?
I spoke to unimelb on the phone and asked them why they haven't accepted my Access melb request, and they said that my application was still under review due to the high demand... So they're still sending out emails. Is this the same response others are getting from Unimelb?
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I spoke to unimelb on the phone and asked them why they haven't accepted my Access melb request, and they said that my application was still under review due to the high demand... So they're still sending out emails. Is this the same response others are getting from Unimelb?
Not in Year 12 (2018) so I can't answer that question, but it seems that Melbourne (and, to a lesser extent, Monash) are still sending them out.
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Hello (:
So from reading a few posts from this thread, I should leave my preference for BSc at Melb uni in first? I really want to do it and I'm just 2 points below Access Melbourne (which i have been notified that i do qualify for) And I've also fulfilled all the prerequisites. Just looking for some encouragement to alleviate some of my anxiety.
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Hello (:
So from reading a few posts from this thread, I should leave my preference for BSc at Melb uni in first? I really want to do it and I'm just 2 points below Access Melbourne (which i have been notified that i do qualify for) And I've also fulfilled all the prerequisites. Just looking for some encouragement to alleviate some of my anxiety.
There’s nothing to lose. Definitely leave it there.
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Does anyone know if confirmation of your eligibility for Access Melb means that unimelb will grant you SEAS points?
I'm ineligible for Access so now I'm worried unimelb might also not approve my SEAS application (category 1).
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Does anyone know if confirmation of your eligibility for Access Melb means that unimelb will grant you SEAS points?
I'm ineligible for Access so now I'm worried unimelb might also not approve my SEAS application (category 1).
If you qualify for Access Melbourne then you will also qualify for SEAS however you can be eligible for SEAS without getting access Melbourne.
I think that access Melbourne is just for financial disadvantage/rural given that’s what the text we got said, however I’m not entirely sure.
It’s possible you might get SEAS even if you don’t qualify for Access though.
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If you qualify for Access Melbourne then you will also qualify for SEAS however you can be eligible for SEAS without getting access Melbourne.
I think that access Melbourne is just for financial disadvantage/rural given that’s what the text we got said, however I’m not entirely sure.
It’s possible you might get SEAS even if you don’t qualify for Access though.
Yup you're right - that explains why I qualified for Monash Guarantee due to living in a low socio-economic area but not for Access. I called unimelb and they did say that the university grants SEAS points on a case-by-case basis, which leads me to believe that if Access excludes residence in low-socioeconomic area then perhaps unimelb refuses to grant SEAS points for that category altogether. :(
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There’s some more info about access Melbourne here that may help. From the look of things, financial, rural, and indigenous will get you a guaranteed place (the reduced atar requirements) and the others will just give you seas points.
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Hey!
Just bumping this thread from last year because I'm sure there'll be people with the same concerns this year!
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Can I still get into the bachelor of science being under the guaranteed score even if I didn’t meet one of the prerequisites by .13?
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Can I still get into the bachelor of science being under the guaranteed score even if I didn’t meet one of the prerequisites by .13?
prerequisites are much more robust than ATAR requirements. So it makes it much harder to get into the course - I would try to get in touch with the uni and ask whether there is anything such as a bridging course that you could do to satisfy that prerequisite.
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Can I still get into the bachelor of science being under the guaranteed score even if I didn’t meet one of the prerequisites by .13?
Do you mean a study score prerequisite? These are generally fixed and don't have flexibility, however they use the raw score not scaled, so you shouldn't be out by a decimal (which may be good news if its a subject that scales down, or bad news if its one that scales up).
I have heard third hand stories of people getting in without meeting subject prerequisites, however it is unlikely and you should consider a bridging course or doing a different degree and transferring. However, still leave it in your preferences because otherwise you'll definitely have no chance of getting in.
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Do you mean a study score prerequisite? These are generally fixed and don't have flexibility, however they use the raw score not scaled, so you shouldn't be out by a decimal (which may be good news if its a subject that scales down, or bad news if its one that scales up).
I have heard third hand stories of people getting in without meeting subject prerequisites, however it is unlikely and you should consider a bridging course or doing a different degree and transferring. However, still leave it in your preferences because otherwise you'll definitely have no chance of getting in.
Would the chance if this happening increase if I did well (35) in the GAT in the area where I struggled?
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Would the chance if this happening increase if I did well (35) in the GAT in the area where I struggled?
The GAT is completely irrelevant except for getting a derived study score.
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I got an email saying I'm eligible Monash Guarantee and text from Melbourne saying that I'm eligible. I got an ATAR of 84.80 which is less than the Monash clearly-in for Science by 0.2. Am I still guaranteed an offer from Monash since I have met all the prerequisites and Monash Guarantee ATAR (75).
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I got an email saying I'm eligible Monash Guarantee and text from Melbourne saying that I'm eligible. I got an ATAR of 84.80 which is less than the Monash clearly-in for Science by 0.2. Am I still guaranteed an offer from Monash since I have met all the prerequisites and Monash Guarantee ATAR (75).
Yep. As you're eligible for the guarantee and got an atar over 75, you'll definitely get an offer (if it is the highest course on your preference list that you qualify for).
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Yep. As you're eligible for the guarantee and got an atar over 75, you'll definitely get an offer (if it is the highest course on your preference list that you qualify for).
Yep. As you're eligible for the guarantee and got an atar over 75, you'll definitely get an offer (if it is the highest course on your preference list that you qualify for).
Thanks, yep it is! Do you know if it is a first round offer; I'm guessing they intake all the people who achieved well above the ATAR first and then do the guaranteed people towards the end of the offer rounds?
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Thanks, yep it is! Do you know if it is a first round offer; I'm guessing they intake all the people who achieved well above the ATAR first and then do the guaranteed people towards the end of the offer rounds?
It’ll be first round. Later round offers occur because some people don’t take their first offer. Say there’s 200 places in a course, in first round everyone guaranteed an offer & then the next X number of people with the highest selection rank will be offered a place. Say 50 people don’t accept those offers, in second round the next 50 people with the highest selection rank will be given an offer, which is why the number of people given offers reduces significantly between rounds. But that’s irrelevant for you haha, you’ll get an offer in December round 1 (the 18th).