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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: kenhung123 on November 06, 2009, 12:34:23 am
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Is it a good tactic to prioritise your subjects? i.e. try hard in the 4 subjects what will be in top 4? Is this risky or its just best to even it all out?
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When you get lazy and can't manage your time, you start neglecting subjects. That would be almost everyone ;) ( STUPID ASS PHYSICS) but I would suggest to try and keep a balance with your subjects.
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LOL any subject but English!!!
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Is it a good tactic to prioritise your subjects? i.e. try hard in the 4 subjects what will be in top 4? Is this risky or its just best to even it all out?
yeah sort of.
I started neglecting chemistry to do well in physics and specialist maths. Then I got an A in the chemistry exam and kicked myself because an A+ could have been possible, but I always knew chemistry would be my fifth subject. I remember telling my chemistry teacher how unfair it is that one of my best subjects would have to be fifth because of english and I resented english for the rest of the year.
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Absolutely. I have not opened my business books to study for any SAC or the exam this year, because it is my 6th subject and it basically has no effect on my enter score.
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Yeah I neglected the fuck out of literature, it's just not worth it - difficult subject with barely any scaling.
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Yeah I prioritize a bit. I don't study Methods at all basically (leaving it to die) and study heaps for physics. I was going to let Chem die as well but then after A+ for mid year I tried to save it to push IT Apps into bottom two.
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Usually the subjects I neglect I do the best in and the subjects I study for I completely screw up. My highest study score so far is from a subject in which my only study was on the day of the exam.
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Well, after mid-years this year, Chem and Physics have been placed on the back burner for me.
Even now, with a couple of more days to those two exams, I have not done one single practice exam.
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Usually either Specialist or Chemistry were my top priority. Methods came next and English came last spending about 1 third the time on English than I did with other subjects. That was mainly because I love my other 3 subjects but resent English. However leading up to the exam I put in about 6 hours of English study each day
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Yeah I always do spesh/methods first before anything.
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Yeah I always do spesh/methods first before anything.
No wonder why you epically own those subjects.
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Is it a good tactic to prioritise your subjects? i.e. try hard in the 4 subjects what will be in top 4? Is this risky or its just best to even it all out?
I presume what you mean is to study hard only for those subjects you expect to be in your top 4. I would say that's not a good tactic. Those bottom 2 should be a backup. There is enough time in VCE to study enough to get to a 45-50 level for every subject you do if you have the foundation built in previous years. But if you try hard only in 4 you're basically dropping that backup option if you get what I mean. And ideally your bottom 2 would be decent contributors. In the end those small differences do help your ENTER.
If I'm misinterpreting and you meant prioritizing in general then yeah that's a good idea. I didn't really put methods too high up there because I figured doing a lot of work on spesh solidified and extended on my methods knowledge anyway. I also ensured that I did enough English particularly nearing the end even if I enjoyed my maths and sciences more.
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absolutely, especially for my big 3 which are business, legal and history - barely do any for psychology coz i dont consider it a serious subject and for maths i opened my textbook less than 10 times this year since i merely need at 25+ for it as a SS
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Yeah, it varied throughout the year though. If a sac was coming up in one subject, I'd study for that and so on... But I pretty much avoided english if I had a choice. In the last week before exams, I studied English A LOT. So I prioritise in the sense that whatever I think is important in the short term, I study more for and not the the long run. By long run, I mean: "I think this subject will be my bottom one, hence I will neglect it the whole year."
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Yeah, it varied throughout the year though. If a sac was coming up in one subject, I'd study for that and so on... But I pretty much avoided english if I had a choice. In the last week before exams, I studied English A LOT. So I prioritise in the sense that whatever I think is important in the short term, I study more for and not the the long run. By long run, I mean: "I think this subject will be my bottom one, hence I will neglect it the whole year."
Ha ha... I short-term prioritise *all* the time... I would likely fail everything if it wasn't for last-minute study.
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Yep
Percentage wise i'd say
Spesh - 95%
All other subjects combined - 5%
No jks
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Next year it will prob be in this order:
Methods
Accounting
then
Further,Legal and i'll probably avoid english language as much as i can.
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Usually the subjects I neglect I do the best in and the subjects I study for I completely screw up. My highest study score so far is from a subject in which my only study was on the day of the exam.
Exactly the same really. BM was the subject I studied least for, followed by Methods given that I had spesh anyway, and these were my two highest scores. I basically spent the entire year on spesh and English, and those two ended up being my lowest raw and even scaled scores. The only exceptions were about a month prior to the mid-years where I spent my entire time on Chemistry, nailed that, and then neglected the end year quite a bit and let my mid-year mark compensate, and then of course, the UMAT cram period after Chemistry where I neglected basically everything.
Is it a good tactic to prioritise your subjects? i.e. try hard in the 4 subjects what will be in top 4? Is this risky or its just best to even it all out?
I presume what you mean is to study hard only for those subjects you expect to be in your top 4. I would say that's not a good tactic. Those bottom 2 should be a backup. There is enough time in VCE to study enough to get to a 45-50 level for every subject you do if you have the foundation built in previous years. But if you try hard only in 4 you're basically dropping that backup option if you get what I mean. And ideally your bottom 2 would be decent contributors. In the end those small differences do help your ENTER.
I still think it's a good idea to prioritise away at least 1 subject, given that you know what you're doing, and 2 if you are absolutely definite about where your strengths and weaknesses lie. One's my recommendation though just incase you absolutely screw up an intended primary four. Firstly, you're only getting 10% of your effort, and secondly, if you know you're not going to do that well anyway, there's really no point. I also disagree with the point that "there's enough time". This depends on who you're talking to; not everyone on this forum commits the same amount of study time. As for the contribution by the bottom 2, I don't think they're decent contributors at all. 10% is hardly anything. With the study time it takes to bring a 30 to a 40 SS, you'll probably gain much more than 1 study score point in a top 4 subject given that you haven't hit a level which has very high diminishing gains (usually around the 45 level). Yes, I know that ideally you'll want to maximise every subject, but time is a limited resource in VCE which is reduced significantly by a number of factors such as extracurricular activities, social gatherings and plain ol' cbf/motivation which cut down the seemingly large pool of time that you have.
i'll probably avoid english language as much as i can.
Don't you need it since it's bound to be in your primary 4? =S Or aren't you aiming at a level where you must need strong subjects for all four.
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Yep
Percentage wise i'd say
Spesh - 95%
All other subjects combined - 5%
No jks
This guy is a spesh nerd, all he does is spesh during every single class lol.
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^ shinny sorry to keep asking you questions haha, and to be offtopic.
and then of course, the UMAT cram period after Chemistry where I neglected basically everything.
how much did you study for UMAT / what did you do exactly:D
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Is it a good tactic to prioritise your subjects? i.e. try hard in the 4 subjects what will be in top 4? Is this risky or its just best to even it all out?
I presume what you mean is to study hard only for those subjects you expect to be in your top 4. I would say that's not a good tactic. Those bottom 2 should be a backup. There is enough time in VCE to study enough to get to a 45-50 level for every subject you do if you have the foundation built in previous years. But if you try hard only in 4 you're basically dropping that backup option if you get what I mean. And ideally your bottom 2 would be decent contributors. In the end those small differences do help your ENTER.
I still think it's a good idea to prioritise away at least 1 subject, given that you know what you're doing, and 2 if you are absolutely definite about where your strengths and weaknesses lie. One's my recommendation though just incase you absolutely screw up an intended primary four. Firstly, you're only getting 10% of your effort, and secondly, if you know you're not going to do that well anyway, there's really no point. I also disagree with the point that "there's enough time". This depends on who you're talking to; not everyone on this forum commits the same amount of study time. As for the contribution by the bottom 2, I don't think they're decent contributors at all. 10% is hardly anything. With the study time it takes to bring a 30 to a 40 SS, you'll probably gain much more than 1 study score point in a top 4 subject given that you haven't hit a level which has very high diminishing gains (usually around the 45 level). Yes, I know that ideally you'll want to maximise every subject, but time is a limited resource in VCE which is reduced significantly by a number of factors such as extracurricular activities, social gatherings and plain ol' cbf/motivation which cut down the seemingly large pool of time that you have.
Ah well, it's different for different people I guess. I'm happy with all my subjects so I never really liked the idea at dismissing any one of them.