Post by: kenhung123 on November 06, 2009, 04:27:18 pm
Post by: NE2000 on November 06, 2009, 04:31:54 pm
But it's very much a personal thing. Give an idea of your maths skill level, how are you doing this year in GMA/MM?
Post by: kenhung123 on November 06, 2009, 04:40:10 pm
GMA 70's
Post by: kamil9876 on November 06, 2009, 05:23:10 pm
Be open minded to it and firstly treat it as an intellectual discipline where you gain skills gradually, then apply them to the exam rather than learn how to do an exam without thinking about the maths beforehand. This approach will make it easier than English. (success of this method was proved by one of my students :) )
Post by: Hooligan on November 06, 2009, 08:13:53 pm
Spesh is massively overhyped imo. It's a cool subject, and it is the most difficult maths obviously, but it's not as exceedingly difficult as it was made out to be for me in years 10 and 11. It probably does require the most study out of all the science and maths subjects (apart from bio but let's stay away from that lol), but I disagree with the idea that even if you're really good you will only get 40. Like any other subject, 3 borderline A+s will for your three GAs will put you into contention for a 40. And honestly the exams aren't impossible hardcore maths, but they generally just test what's on the course with some good questions that will likely provoke a bit of thought but will also likely end up legitimately doable.
But it's very much a personal thing. Give an idea of your maths skill level, how are you doing this year in GMA/MM?
*agrees*
Post by: mystikal on November 08, 2009, 05:44:35 pm
Post by: Over9000 on November 10, 2009, 08:13:47 pm
Post by: kdgamz on November 10, 2009, 09:06:54 pm
personally, spesh is nearly all understanding concepts and a little bit (if not at all) of memorising.
Post by: Over9000 on November 10, 2009, 11:19:31 pm
on to spesh next year, like is the stuff ive done in spesh this year relevant to spesh if I do it next year. Also, would I be able to cope with spesh next year if im averaging 80% in spesh this year. Sorry guys, im just worried, dont want to pick a subject if im gonna struggle in it too much :-\
Post by: xvce2009 on November 11, 2009, 10:22:31 pm
Comparing Specialist with General Maths in Year 11 I can say that some of the year 11 material is irrelevant, however, a lot of the theory learned in Year 11 is relearned in Year 12 and applied to more complex and difficult analysis problems. Year 11 General Maths is kind of like the grounding knowledge you will need to take on Specialist Maths. The topics which will be covered again are trigonometry, calculus, complex numbers, vectors and dynamics, but at a more complex level. This theory is re-taught in Year 12, however this time you will actually apply these concepts to questions, often utilising many of the 'ideas' you have come to learn to answer an analysis question or short answer questions in the final exams.
As kdgamz has said, Specialist is largely a 'concept' subject. You must understand the concept behind the maths to do well in it. Although doing 100 trial exam papers may help you understand how to do specific questions (which will help you for Exam One), if you do not understand the particular concepts, you will struggle to work through harder and more unique VCAA analysis questions in Exam Two. Overall though, I would say if you work consistently through the year, by the end of the year you will come to enjoy doing Specialist Maths rather than fear it.
Just my two cents :)
Post by: Over9000 on November 11, 2009, 10:25:56 pm
OVER9000, having done Specialist Maths this year I can say personally it was a really interesting subject. If you are decent at maths, and if you enjoy a bit of maths from time to time, doing Specialist Maths can be really rewarding. After doing Specialist, you will also realise that Methods also becomes extremely easy. Specialist covers most of the Methods course, with mainly just the topic of probability which stands out alone for Methods. Considering you are averaging 80%, I think that is more than enough to continue with Specialist.Thanks yeah. I just hope the stuff ive done this year in spesh will help me for spesh next year, im not too bad at iut but I hope it doesnt get much harder like ppl say it does. And yeh hopefully methods next year is like methods this year, I didnt find methods too hard so im hopin methods next year will be similar to what ive done this year (methods 3/4).
Comparing Specialist with General Maths in Year 11 I can say that some of the year 11 material is irrelevant, however, a lot of the theory learned in Year 11 is relearned in Year 12 and applied to more complex and difficult analysis problems. Year 11 General Maths is kind of like the grounding knowledge you will need to take on Specialist Maths. The topics which will be covered again are trigonometry, calculus, complex numbers, vectors and dynamics, but at a more complex level. This theory is re-taught in Year 12, however this time you will actually apply these concepts to questions, often utilising many of the 'ideas' you have come to learn to answer an analysis question or short answer questions in the final exams.
As kdgamz has said, Specialist is largely a 'concept' subject. You must understand the concept behind the maths to do well in it. Although doing 100 trial exam papers may help you understand how to do specific questions (which will help you for Exam One), if you do not understand the particular concepts, you will struggle to work through harder and more unique VCAA analysis questions in Exam Two. Overall though, I would say if you work consistently through the year, by the end of the year you will come to enjoy doing Specialist Maths rather than fear it.
Just my two cents :)
Post by: THem on November 11, 2009, 10:26:32 pm
Post by: d0minicz on November 11, 2009, 10:27:26 pm
Post by: kendraaaaa on November 11, 2009, 10:28:24 pm
you raff you roose.
Post by: /0 on November 11, 2009, 10:29:40 pm
Post by: nbalakers24 on November 11, 2009, 10:38:48 pm
OVER9000, having done Specialist Maths this year I can say personally it was a really interesting subject. If you are decent at maths, and if you enjoy a bit of maths from time to time, doing Specialist Maths can be really rewarding. After doing Specialist, you will also realise that Methods also becomes extremely easy. Specialist covers most of the Methods course, with mainly just the topic of probability which stands out alone for Methods. Considering you are averaging 80%, I think that is more than enough to continue with Specialist.Btw do you think spesh would be a good choice for me next year? Coz I'm averaing 50% ish in legal studies.
Comparing Specialist with General Maths in Year 11 I can say that some of the year 11 material is irrelevant, however, a lot of the theory learned in Year 11 is relearned in Year 12 and applied to more complex and difficult analysis problems. Year 11 General Maths is kind of like the grounding knowledge you will need to take on Specialist Maths. The topics which will be covered again are trigonometry, calculus, complex numbers, vectors and dynamics, but at a more complex level. This theory is re-taught in Year 12, however this time you will actually apply these concepts to questions, often utilising many of the 'ideas' you have come to learn to answer an analysis question or short answer questions in the final exams.
As kdgamz has said, Specialist is largely a 'concept' subject. You must understand the concept behind the maths to do well in it. Although doing 100 trial exam papers may help you understand how to do specific questions (which will help you for Exam One), if you do not understand the particular concepts, you will struggle to work through harder and more unique VCAA analysis questions in Exam Two. Overall though, I would say if you work consistently through the year, by the end of the year you will come to enjoy doing Specialist Maths rather than fear it.
Just my two cents :)
getting 50% in legal studies will give you the basics so yeah, i think you will do fine next year.
Post by: Over9000 on November 11, 2009, 10:39:56 pm
Basically most of the stuff you learn in legal studies is carried over to spesh so if ur doing really well (~50%) then I think you should go for it.OVER9000, having done Specialist Maths this year I can say personally it was a really interesting subject. If you are decent at maths, and if you enjoy a bit of maths from time to time, doing Specialist Maths can be really rewarding. After doing Specialist, you will also realise that Methods also becomes extremely easy. Specialist covers most of the Methods course, with mainly just the topic of probability which stands out alone for Methods. Considering you are averaging 80%, I think that is more than enough to continue with Specialist.Btw do you think spesh would be a good choice for me next year? Coz I'm averaing 50% ish in legal studies.
Comparing Specialist with General Maths in Year 11 I can say that some of the year 11 material is irrelevant, however, a lot of the theory learned in Year 11 is relearned in Year 12 and applied to more complex and difficult analysis problems. Year 11 General Maths is kind of like the grounding knowledge you will need to take on Specialist Maths. The topics which will be covered again are trigonometry, calculus, complex numbers, vectors and dynamics, but at a more complex level. This theory is re-taught in Year 12, however this time you will actually apply these concepts to questions, often utilising many of the 'ideas' you have come to learn to answer an analysis question or short answer questions in the final exams.
As kdgamz has said, Specialist is largely a 'concept' subject. You must understand the concept behind the maths to do well in it. Although doing 100 trial exam papers may help you understand how to do specific questions (which will help you for Exam One), if you do not understand the particular concepts, you will struggle to work through harder and more unique VCAA analysis questions in Exam Two. Overall though, I would say if you work consistently through the year, by the end of the year you will come to enjoy doing Specialist Maths rather than fear it.
Just my two cents :)
getting 50% in legal studies will give you the basics so yeah, i think you will do fine next year.
Post by: lacoste on November 11, 2009, 10:43:34 pm
Basically most of the stuff you learn in legal studies is carried over to spesh so if ur doing really well (~50%) then I think you should go for it.OVER9000, having done Specialist Maths this year I can say personally it was a really interesting subject. If you are decent at maths, and if you enjoy a bit of maths from time to time, doing Specialist Maths can be really rewarding. After doing Specialist, you will also realise that Methods also becomes extremely easy. Specialist covers most of the Methods course, with mainly just the topic of probability which stands out alone for Methods. Considering you are averaging 80%, I think that is more than enough to continue with Specialist.Btw do you think spesh would be a good choice for me next year? Coz I'm averaing 50% ish in legal studies.
Comparing Specialist with General Maths in Year 11 I can say that some of the year 11 material is irrelevant, however, a lot of the theory learned in Year 11 is relearned in Year 12 and applied to more complex and difficult analysis problems. Year 11 General Maths is kind of like the grounding knowledge you will need to take on Specialist Maths. The topics which will be covered again are trigonometry, calculus, complex numbers, vectors and dynamics, but at a more complex level. This theory is re-taught in Year 12, however this time you will actually apply these concepts to questions, often utilising many of the 'ideas' you have come to learn to answer an analysis question or short answer questions in the final exams.
As kdgamz has said, Specialist is largely a 'concept' subject. You must understand the concept behind the maths to do well in it. Although doing 100 trial exam papers may help you understand how to do specific questions (which will help you for Exam One), if you do not understand the particular concepts, you will struggle to work through harder and more unique VCAA analysis questions in Exam Two. Overall though, I would say if you work consistently through the year, by the end of the year you will come to enjoy doing Specialist Maths rather than fear it.
Just my two cents :)
getting 50% in legal studies will give you the basics so yeah, i think you will do fine next year.
No doubt mate, put in the work and you should be fine!
lmao, yes legal studies provide the foundations for success as OVER 9000 said, theres nothing to worry about !! :)
Post by: kamil9876 on November 11, 2009, 10:44:56 pm
Post by: lacoste on November 11, 2009, 10:46:46 pm
Hey guys, should I take spec next year considering i've been averaging a field's medal every four years?
Definitely not, you should be in the olympics in London. with that talent you need to push harder and average over9000 medals
ps: last exam tomos pumped!!
Post by: YT_17 on November 11, 2009, 11:00:36 pm
Post by: Over9000 on November 11, 2009, 11:00:39 pm
Hey guys, should I take spec next year considering i've been averaging a field's medal every four years?I think you will find that with enough dedication and diligence, you will be able to have a successful year in spesh next year. Most of the topics you would have studied on ur field trip thingy will be similarly covered by spesh as well, so gl.
Post by: kdgamz on November 12, 2009, 09:29:08 am
Post by: Over9000 on November 12, 2009, 01:45:12 pm
lol its funny how threads nearly always go off-topic :DToo true trunks.
Post by: mystikal on November 12, 2009, 10:55:54 pm
it is not about whether it is hard or not.........it is about ur interest for maths.......i am a non science student and i laugh at myself becoz i did spesh this year........dunno why......overall.....i have to say that this is a fun subject.....it makes u to hate it as well as loving it.........
non science student doesnt mean you are a non maths student =D
Post by: YT_17 on November 16, 2009, 09:58:29 pm
it is not about whether it is hard or not.........it is about ur interest for maths.......i am a non science student and i laugh at myself becoz i did spesh this year........dunno why......overall.....i have to say that this is a fun subject.....it makes u to hate it as well as loving it.........
non science student doesnt mean you are a non maths student =D
Post by: YT_17 on November 16, 2009, 09:59:11 pm
Hey guys, I don't do Legal Studies right now, but do you think if I picked it up next year though, my Spesh performance may increase??
Say... around 50% better?
I'm hoping so, Spesh will be tough without a Legal Studies background. :(
Post by: THem on November 16, 2009, 10:00:14 pm
Post by: minilunchbox on November 16, 2009, 10:01:25 pm
Eh, why is spesh related to legal studies?Hey guys, I don't do Legal Studies right now, but do you think if I picked it up next year though, my Spesh performance may increase??
Say... around 50% better?
I'm hoping so, Spesh will be tough without a Legal Studies background. :(
lol oh dear.
Post by: Mao on November 16, 2009, 10:41:20 pm
Post by: Mao on November 16, 2009, 10:44:13 pm
[ps this is ridiculous :P]
Post by: Over9000 on November 16, 2009, 11:00:32 pm
Hey guys I did Specialist last year, should I do Legal next year to boost my study score in Specialist? My SAC average isMao, if u feel that you have a sound knowledge of all the concepts in spesh, you will find legal studies easy as I did. Basically Legal studies is like the 3/4 of spesh and will basically be very similar. If your sac average is 30\pi, you will definitely find legal easy. I suggest for ur text book you should get the "book of childrens names" as it has many useful names that can help you apply different formulae required in legal studies.%
Post by: Over9000 on November 17, 2009, 01:30:01 am
Being fluent in Chinese isnt near as advantageous for spesh as legal studies is. You need legal guys, I cant stress that enuff. Put the hard yards in for legal studies and you will reap the rewards for spesh. Just remember to put the hard yards in before the exams and ull find the hard yards will help you for spesh. I did spesh last year and I found it wasnt anywhere near as relevant to spesh this year as opposed to legal studies which I think shud be the mainstream for the maths course in yr 11.Hey guys I did Specialist last year, should I do Legal next year to boost my study score in Specialist? My SAC average isMao, if u feel that you have a sound knowledge of all the concepts in spesh, you will find legal studies easy as I did. Basically Legal studies is like the 3/4 of spesh and will basically be very similar. If your sac average is 30\pi, you will definitely find legal easy. I suggest for ur text book you should get the "book of childrens names" as it has many useful names that can help you apply different formulae required in legal studies.
At my school, we used, "Quotations from Chairman Mao" instead of your book.
It still had relevant/similar facts and formuale.
I don't think the Spec course has changed much since Friday, so it's still relevant until next Thursday.
And the legal course is still the same, so if you want to do well in Spec, I suggest reading both textbooks^^^
Try to have most of the book completed by first class 2010, so you can impress the teacher by how fluent you are in Chinese.
Hope that helps!
Post by: Souljette_93 on November 17, 2009, 03:44:37 pm
How does by doing legal, improve spech? Aren't they two different subjects?
TC,
Souljette<3
Post by: YT_17 on November 17, 2009, 10:16:47 pm
Post by: Mao on November 18, 2009, 10:05:51 am
Wait, i am fluent in Chinese and i did spesh and legal this year.............and i still dun see the connection............555 .......pls .....some1 explain to ME !
Confucious says, he who buries a man's wife alive, should not expect to sit at that man's dinner table without the subject coming up.
Post by: YT_17 on November 19, 2009, 05:56:32 pm
Post by: Stroodle on November 22, 2009, 10:33:06 pm
Wait, i am fluent in Chinese and i did spesh and legal this year.............and i still dun see the connection............555 .......pls .....some1 explain to ME !
Confucious says, he who buries a man's wife alive, should not expect to sit at that man's dinner table without the subject coming up.
Hmm. I thought he said, he who murders a man's wife at the dinner table, should not expect dessert.
Post by: vexx on November 22, 2009, 10:45:35 pm
another question, a friend of mine/my curiosity is wondering the same (picking up spesh without 3/4) but already done methods 3/4?
thanksss
Post by: Over9000 on November 22, 2009, 11:11:18 pm
Your friend having done 3/4 last year, how good is he?
I dono maybe he could suffice with ~1hr a night of spesh.
Post by: vexx on November 22, 2009, 11:59:24 pm
Doing 3/4 methods the same year averaging B+ in methods. To get a 38-40 would require a lot of study (say 1-2 hours of dedicated spesh a night).
Your friend having done 3/4 last year, how good is he?
I dono maybe he could suffice with ~1hr a night of spesh.
she did 3/4 in year 10 and got 35, didn't really study much because, understandably, she didn't really understand much about vce then :P
oh, so still 1hr a night? like 7'ish hours a week? :| that sounds like quite a lot haha.
Post by: vexx on November 23, 2009, 10:36:22 am
but it sounds like if i actually made an effort to do that, i'd be rewarded kindly :)
are you studying like that for spesh next year?
Post by: vexx on November 23, 2009, 05:11:24 pm
I will be yeah :)!
Study hard for good results ;).
hah good, goodluck with studying!
Post by: vexx on November 23, 2009, 06:09:23 pm
You will be too! ;)
haha. i don't think i'm going to do it, i was just wondering,
and if i did, i may do it in year 13, since i'll only be doing 2 subjects. (ha...)
Post by: vexx on November 23, 2009, 06:49:33 pm
2 subjects :S?
well if i did an extra year i'd only want to do 2 subjects. plus i'd have so much time to study for spesh if i was to do it as one of them:D
Post by: vexx on November 23, 2009, 09:39:18 pm
Ahh as if you want to go through year 12 all again! :P
haha i may not, but it's not repeating year. it's like a gap year with a little bit of work;)
Post by: vexx on November 23, 2009, 10:15:07 pm
Ahhh a gap year :).
yepp ;).
Post by: monokekie on November 27, 2009, 01:17:05 am
now, i reckon its time to be true to myself and say “numbers are dull”. :P
Post by: rasangi on December 28, 2009, 03:17:15 am
Post by: kyzoo on December 28, 2009, 03:23:22 am
English and Chem are both harder than Spesh IMO.
Post by: jimmy999 on December 28, 2009, 12:10:30 pm
Post by: wildareal on August 19, 2010, 01:46:58 am
Based on the fact that Specialist was my highest subject and only 50, we can safely assume that it is an easy subject :P
Clearly Jimmy999 did Legal Studies 1/2 in Yr 10.
Post by: Mr Edwards on August 19, 2010, 02:15:27 am
wonder if bos being down has anything to do with it
Post by: AzureBlue on August 19, 2010, 07:15:00 am
man, the quality of posts on VN seem to have deteriotated in recent timesLol, is BOS ever coming back? It hasn't been working for ages...
wonder if bos being down has anything to do with it
Post by: kyzoo on August 26, 2010, 12:13:58 am
Now I think that Physics, English, and Chem are all harder than Spesh.
Post by: vexx on August 26, 2010, 01:13:02 am
Actually, I'll make a last comment 8 months after my original comment. It's interesting to see what I said back then.agreeeeee
Now I think that Physics, English, and Chem are all harder than Spesh.
I also think that English is harder than Spesh.
But i also think this post may be invalid because i do neither...