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Title: Music while studying?
Post by: red bull on December 17, 2009, 02:19:35 pm
Is it alright to listen to music while u study? does it have a dramatic impact on your results?  at my school we are allowed to bring music to listen to so long as we dont share with our friends
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: samuch on December 17, 2009, 02:22:05 pm
i do it all the time :)
but i dont have it on loud... just enough to hear and then if im concentrating hard enough i dont even hear it anymore
so its fine i think
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: kenhung123 on December 17, 2009, 02:25:02 pm
I can't concentrate with music. I don't know why.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: ItsSKC on December 17, 2009, 02:25:28 pm
It depends on the individual really. I like a little background noise.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: m@tty on December 17, 2009, 02:26:46 pm
When doing questions I think it's fine. Though when covering new material I can't concentrate, I turn it off.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: xXNovaxX on December 17, 2009, 02:32:03 pm
It's not so much "I cannot concentrate"

It's more of, you do not RETAIN the stuff your reading/writing/doing because 1/2 your brain is humming along, or listening to the music.

But yeah I cannot concentrate either
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: samuch on December 17, 2009, 02:35:28 pm
this proves that women are better at multi tasking :P (ItsSKC is the exception) jkjk

nova is right :) but if you can learn to not pay so much attention to it like ItsSKC and myself its just some background noise :)
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: m@tty on December 17, 2009, 02:37:41 pm
It's not so much "I cannot concentrate"

But I cannot concentrate.

:2funny:

But seriously the problem is retention, I understand what I read, but by the time I get to the next line/paragraph I have forgotten it already :buck2:

Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: TrueTears on December 17, 2009, 02:37:58 pm
I normally have quiet jpop playing while reading theory, but music is never on while doing questions.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: jay1993 on December 17, 2009, 02:39:04 pm
what school do u go to?.... they let you bring in MP3 players into class...awesome!!
:D

I usually listen to slow music with either no words or the volume low enough so i cant hear the words..
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: samuch on December 17, 2009, 02:39:25 pm
It's not so much "I cannot concentrate"

But I cannot concentrate.

:2funny:

But seriously the problem is retention, I understand what I read, but by the time I get to the next line/paragraph I have forgotten it already :buck2:


this sometimes happens to me without the aid of music :P
edit: fixed shit wording
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: m@tty on December 17, 2009, 02:41:38 pm
It's not so much "I cannot concentrate"

But I cannot concentrate.

:2funny:

But seriously the problem is retention, I understand what I read, but by the time I get to the next line/paragraph I have forgotten it already :buck2:


i can do this without the aid of music :P
Women are just use to forgetting things? So it's no different when 'multitasking' :P
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: TrueTears on December 17, 2009, 02:45:14 pm
what school do u go to?.... they let you bring in MP3 players into class...awesome!!
:D

I usually listen to slow music with either no words or the volume low enough so i cant hear the words..
LOL our methods class and physics class, half the class bought mp3's/ipods in to listen lolz
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: samuch on December 17, 2009, 02:45:55 pm
It's not so much "I cannot concentrate"

But I cannot concentrate.

:2funny:

But seriously the problem is retention, I understand what I read, but by the time I get to the next line/paragraph I have forgotten it already :buck2:


i can do this without the aid of music :P
Women are just use to forgetting things? So it's no different when 'multitasking' :P
:O lol but i was saying that women are better at multitasking! and how come we are used to forgetting things ??
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: m@tty on December 17, 2009, 02:51:26 pm
You said you can forget without music, so music doesn't affect you because you are used to forgetting. Women perceive themselves as better at 'multitasking' because they don't realise that men only complain about 'multitasking' because they don't forget normally. :P

This is quite sexist, everyone this is said in jest.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: xXNovaxX on December 17, 2009, 02:52:42 pm
It's not so much "I cannot concentrate"

But I cannot concentrate.

:2funny:

But seriously the problem is retention, I understand what I read, but by the time I get to the next line/paragraph I have forgotten it already :buck2:


omg....wow thats so weird, I had my iPod ear phones plugged in as I was writing that =S
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: m@tty on December 17, 2009, 03:01:06 pm
Maybe you cannot concentrate?
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: samuch on December 17, 2009, 03:01:48 pm
You said you can forget without music, so music doesn't affect you because you are used to forgetting. Women perceive themselves as better at 'multitasking' because they don't realise that men only complain about 'multitasking' because they don't forget normally. :P

This is quite sexist, everyone this is said in jest.
hahahah or maybe men just cant multitask and therefore they complain?
......you are confusing me >_> lol maybe this is due to my shit english skills tho  :buck2:
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: m@tty on December 17, 2009, 03:05:37 pm
You said you can forget without music, so music doesn't affect you because you are used to forgetting. Women perceive themselves as better at 'multitasking' because they don't realise that men only complain about 'multitasking' because they don't forget normally. :P

This is quite sexist, everyone this is said in jest.
hahahah or maybe men just cant multitask and therefore they complain?
......you are confusing me >_> lol maybe this is due to my shit english skills tho  :buck2:
I thought women are better at English than men?

More sexism, again not serious.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: Ahmad on December 17, 2009, 03:08:41 pm
Theory, questions, anything: music is always playing. I play better chess when I play a song I particularly like, don't know why though.  ;D
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: samuch on December 17, 2009, 03:09:27 pm
You said you can forget without music, so music doesn't affect you because you are used to forgetting. Women perceive themselves as better at 'multitasking' because they don't realise that men only complain about 'multitasking' because they don't forget normally. :P

This is quite sexist, everyone this is said in jest.
hahahah or maybe men just cant multitask and therefore they complain?
......you are confusing me >_> lol maybe this is due to my shit english skills tho  :buck2:
I thought women are better at English than men?

More sexism, again not serious.
haha i havent heard that one before!! and why is that? because we are seen to be more creative than men? all the well known artists are mainly men (well the ones i know of) so that backfires :P
when it comes to the way women and men think, i dont think any generalisation that can be made as everyone is individual
during this year my lit teacher told me i think in squares/boxes.. like a guy... so yeah maybe i was meant to be born as a male hahah nah
im just saying that even my teacher made these generalisations!
i dont know if this is what you were referring to but yeah :P
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: samuch on December 17, 2009, 03:09:53 pm
Theory, questions, anything: music is always playing. I play better chess when I play a song I particularly like, don't know why though.  ;D
i havent played chess in agessssssss... i feel like playing it now lol
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: m@tty on December 17, 2009, 03:12:57 pm
You said you can forget without music, so music doesn't affect you because you are used to forgetting. Women perceive themselves as better at 'multitasking' because they don't realise that men only complain about 'multitasking' because they don't forget normally. :P

This is quite sexist, everyone this is said in jest.
hahahah or maybe men just cant multitask and therefore they complain?
......you are confusing me >_> lol maybe this is due to my shit english skills tho  :buck2:
I thought women are better at English than men?

More sexism, again not serious.
haha i havent heard that one before!! and why is that? because we are seen to be more creative than men? all the well known artists are mainly men (well the ones i know of) so that backfires :P
when it comes to the way women and men think, i dont think any generalisation that can be made as everyone is individual
during this year my lit teacher told me i think in squares/boxes.. like a guy... so yeah maybe i was meant to be born as a male hahah nah
im just saying that even my teacher made these generalisations!
i dont know if this is what you were referring to but yeah :P
I was just generalising - men are more math/science and women are more artsy - not serious at all. Everyone is unique.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: samuch on December 17, 2009, 03:15:07 pm
You said you can forget without music, so music doesn't affect you because you are used to forgetting. Women perceive themselves as better at 'multitasking' because they don't realise that men only complain about 'multitasking' because they don't forget normally. :P

This is quite sexist, everyone this is said in jest.
hahahah or maybe men just cant multitask and therefore they complain?
......you are confusing me >_> lol maybe this is due to my shit english skills tho  :buck2:
I thought women are better at English than men?

More sexism, again not serious.
haha i havent heard that one before!! and why is that? because we are seen to be more creative than men? all the well known artists are mainly men (well the ones i know of) so that backfires :P
when it comes to the way women and men think, i dont think any generalisation that can be made as everyone is individual
during this year my lit teacher told me i think in squares/boxes.. like a guy... so yeah maybe i was meant to be born as a male hahah nah
im just saying that even my teacher made these generalisations!
i dont know if this is what you were referring to but yeah :P
I was just generalising - men are more math/science and women are more artsy - not serious at all. Everyone is unique.
fair enough - must say that i kind of agree but of course there are exceptions :)
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: xXNovaxX on December 17, 2009, 03:17:10 pm
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The issue whether the use of music while studying is good or not is inconclusive despite of so many and researches about the effect of music while people are studying.


http://www.studyskillsblog.com/the-use-of-music-while-studying/
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: samuch on December 17, 2009, 03:18:55 pm
apparently baroque music (classical) is meant to improve your concentration and therefore improve the results of your studying.....
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: m@tty on December 17, 2009, 03:38:27 pm
Classical music is always good, I was referring to more modern stuff.

haha i havent heard that one before!! and why is that? because we are seen to be more creative than men? all the well known artists are mainly men (well the ones i know of) so that backfires :P
when it comes to the way women and men think, i dont think any generalisation that can be made as everyone is individual
during this year my lit teacher told me i think in squares/boxes.. like a guy... so yeah maybe i was meant to be born as a male hahah nah
im just saying that even my teacher made these generalisations!
i dont know if this is what you were referring to but yeah :P
I was just generalising - men are more math/science and women are more artsy - not serious at all. Everyone is unique.
fair enough - must say that i kind of agree but of course there are exceptions :)
This can be 'proved' with the VCE graded distributions. Take a look at say English and Maths.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: xXNovaxX on December 17, 2009, 03:40:21 pm
Omg, have u seen Visual Communication and Design! Look at the grade distribution, at A's and A+'s, so mind boggling!
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: m@tty on December 17, 2009, 03:42:18 pm
Look at IT:SD.
Link
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: xXNovaxX on December 17, 2009, 03:47:37 pm
Look at IT:SD.
Link
WTF, as if no girl did I.T?

There would have been ONE, in fact this year my friend did I.T:SD and shes a girl, so last year tehre would have been a girl
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: m@tty on December 17, 2009, 03:49:04 pm
There was, look at the table for exact numbers, but not enough to get their own column. Only 90 females sat the exam last year.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: samuch on December 17, 2009, 03:49:58 pm
Classical music is always good, I was referring to more modern stuff.

haha i havent heard that one before!! and why is that? because we are seen to be more creative than men? all the well known artists are mainly men (well the ones i know of) so that backfires :P
when it comes to the way women and men think, i dont think any generalisation that can be made as everyone is individual
during this year my lit teacher told me i think in squares/boxes.. like a guy... so yeah maybe i was meant to be born as a male hahah nah
im just saying that even my teacher made these generalisations!
i dont know if this is what you were referring to but yeah :P
I was just generalising - men are more math/science and women are more artsy - not serious at all. Everyone is unique.
fair enough - must say that i kind of agree but of course there are exceptions :)
This can be 'proved' with the VCE graded distributions. Take a look at say English and Maths.

just had a look at methods CAS and english and yes it does prove it but there isnt an even number of female vs male students
for english theres more female and for the methods theres way more males....
but still the %'s are similar when you look at the table
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: m@tty on December 17, 2009, 03:51:14 pm
The bar chart shows percentages, therefore heights are comparable.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: samuch on December 17, 2009, 03:54:27 pm
but there wasnt an even number of girls vs guys so can it really be compared?
edit: maybe if the numbers were equal the %'s would be different
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: m@tty on December 17, 2009, 03:57:38 pm
The bar chart show the percentage which achieved each letter grade. The proportions can be compared.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: samuch on December 17, 2009, 03:59:22 pm
okay okay lol your right :P
but there are still a lot of exceptions
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: darkphoenix on December 17, 2009, 10:43:58 pm
I actually only listen to music when im doing questions or homework, not when studying.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: Tashi on December 17, 2009, 11:07:14 pm
I can listen to music doing maths, but not any other subjects.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: humph on December 17, 2009, 11:10:41 pm
I can listen to music doing maths, but not any other subjects.
Really? I'm the opposite, if I'm working on a hard maths problem, then I need to concentrate completely, and I always get distracted by how awesome my music is.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: Tashi on December 18, 2009, 12:31:33 am
I can listen to music doing maths, but not any other subjects.
Really? I'm the opposite, if I'm working on a hard maths problem, then I need to concentrate completely, and I always get distracted by how awesome my music is.

Well, maybe not a 'hard' maths problem. But when I'm just doing the same type of question repetitively - that's the only time I can listen to music.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: kyzoo on December 18, 2009, 01:01:27 am
I use music when I am doing dull, repetitive, easy work. I turn it off when I need to concentrate.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: slothpomba on December 18, 2009, 04:15:00 am
I dont think it would really make a huge difference to be honest, like the saying goes - do what ever works (best for you).
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: QuantumJG on December 19, 2009, 05:37:16 pm
I like to listen to music when I study.

I CANNOT read a text book with music going as I'll forget what I have read, but I can listen to music whilst doing questions to build up a skill in some area of maths. If I'm on a hard question that is driving me insane, I won't listen to music then either.

I can't stand it when you iPod is on shuffle and none of those songs are good or you'll say WTF? I can't remember putting that on, and you spend ages searching for the right song.

I also can't stand lectures when people are listening to music in them. If these people want to listen to music go outside!

What is worse than music? Internet sites such as facebook, msn (well not exactly a site, but you know - although a fair amount of collaborate learning for me has been on msn) and VN is another place I procrastinate. When studying it's sort of like 'this topic is on --', OMG I have to see this.
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: amirite? on December 19, 2009, 06:20:59 pm
I like to listen to music when studying cause it breaks it up a bit. Its more of a liesure activity when I get to listen to music aswell. Nomsayin?

Also I havea song which I listen to whenever I think about careers or studying, VCE, etc.
Mastermind by Nas. The lyrics make me believe im a mastermind. Like im capable of learning anything.
[youtube]cUU_PdwDJI0[/youtube]

[Chorus]
A Mastermind - Sees it coming before it comes
A Mastermind - Before he go to war he counts his one
A Mastermind - Everything planned out perfect, in case y'all niggaz got to get murdered
A Mastermind - Sleeps at night, real easy
A Mastermind - Cause everything he does is by the book
A Mastermind - Never do a thing irrational, lives forever, these tales are classical
Title: Re: Music while studying?
Post by: slothpomba on December 20, 2009, 01:42:23 am
Look at IT:SD.
Link
WTF, as if no girl did I.T?

There would have been ONE, in fact this year my friend did I.T:SD and shes a girl, so last year there would have been a girl

My class was a total sausage fest. I think there is like 1000 male and 100 females doing it. I don't remember the exact numbers but it was a 10:1 ratio - roughly.