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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: brendan on February 10, 2008, 01:09:44 pm
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"The high cost of a cheap education" - the scholarship process.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/the-high-cost-of-a-cheap-education/2008/02/09/1202234230372.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
Melbourne High School alleges coercive tactics have been used against students
http://www.theage.com.au/news/education-news/school-in-standover-claim/2007/10/28/1193506344956.html?page=fullpage
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23157185-5011680,00.html
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Oh, and if you don't like the school and want to leave down the track, be prepared to repay the scholarship in full.
I remember that being the case for someone at my school.
I tried to get an academic one for my school. 2nd and 3rd time I got up to interview. They never gave me one. Clearly 99.85 and dux of the school isn't good enough for them 8)
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Fair enough though. It is the school's money, after all. They are giving out a scholarship because they expect you to be a valuable alumni, or to positively contribute to the ENTER average of the school, not so that you can use them as a launchpad to a better school.
People should be aware that the scholarship is a contract though, and should factor this into their decision.
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That first article makes the scholarship selection process seem like hell - I think the author is exaggerating. For me, the process was quite simple - audition, get call saying I'm shortlisted, turn up to interview, get letter about a week later saying I was successful. I didn't turn up with a folio/CVs/resumes/whatever showing off how great I am.
In fact I remember telling the principal that I like to spend my spare time playing computer games and I hate reading "books that make you learn things" and I still got the scholarship :P
Typical, media sensationalising things to attract readers =.=
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interesting. have things changed in the past ten years? the way the first article is written makes it sound so much more cutthroat than it was for me. i went for a scholarship way back in 1999 when i was in grade 6 at my eventual high school (st. kevin's college - private catholic school, fees around $10,000 a year or so, i think). it cost something like $60 to just apply for the scholarship/take the test. think there were about 100-150 or so kids in the room taking the test, a third or so of whom would've been from st. kevin's primary school already. the test was basically like the maths and english competitions we did in primary school.
anyway, a couple of weeks later my parents rang up and asked if they could go on a tour of the school, which i came along to. the headmaster showed us around, which was rather unusual. at the end he just sat me down in his office and offered me a full scholarship :) rather unexpected. so yeah, no school fees all the way through high school = win.
amusingly enough i was the only kid in the year with a 100% scholarship and yet i ended up coming 4th in terms of ENTER. wonder if it was worth it for my school to waste all their money on me...
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amusingly enough i was the only kid in the year with a 100% scholarship and yet i ended up coming 4th in terms of ENTER. wonder if it was worth it for my school to waste all their money on me...
LOL. That's almost exactly my case!
Except I don't know that I'm no.4, all I know is that I'm top 12 :P
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this thread has made me curious/me grabs year book to see who actually got an academic scholarship from my school. god damnit we could have done with the money :(
Edit: Ok, only person who got an academic scholarship (=> nina, you don't count) from my campus, she went on to get an enter <98. I LOVE MY SCHOOL </sarcasm>
Edity again: nina you know that you are above top 12 -_- :P
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This probably isn't as bad because I'm for a public school and scholarships are worth about $500 p.a. (levies, fees, books, uniform) but the only person who got the full one at my school ended up coming third. First and second came to the 2 who got half-scholarships :D.
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This probably isn't as bad because I'm for a public school and scholarships are worth about $500 p.a. (levies, books, uniform) but the only person who got the full one at my school ended up coming third. First and second came to the 2 who got half-scholarships :D.
you don't actually have to pay the levies.
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That's true, but we got a donation receipt as though we did pay them. I think we also got free photocopy cards for "paying". So, yay?
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I went for a scholarship at my school. Didn't get it :( But my mum wanted me to go there and so the principal interviewed us (I was kinda freaked out). The only reason I probably got in was my mother was a dux at that school and my mum's old principal recommended me to the new principal. So yay.
Although it gives me an awesome education, it's still $15,000 every year for my parents, plus lap top hire, plus voluntary compulsory building donations and other crap....
But I'm happy at my school and I think that's what counts :)
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wat school is this
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nina, you don't count
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I didn't even get an interview for an academic scholarships :P (thank you music, without that scholarship my parents wouldn't be able to afford my school) if I'm not top 12 what am I? =\
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wat school is this
Loreto Mandeville Hall. Awesome name, huh? :D
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if I'm not top 12 what am I? =\
Well, for a start you know 3 people from our campus you beat.
And then, I am positive that not everyone from CC > 99 fell in between our 2 scores :P
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This probably isn't as bad because I'm for a public school and scholarships are worth about $500 p.a. (levies, fees, books, uniform) but the only person who got the full one at my school ended up coming third. First and second came to the 2 who got half-scholarships :D.
public schools have scholarships.... =\
i want one!!!
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Some do, not many. My school was in a pretty good position financially compared to most other public schools (I know because I went to a couple of council meetings). Maybe you should ask your principal about it if you're keen.
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http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23157185-5011680,00.html
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Unless you actually want to become a musician when you grow up, music scholarships are horrible (as far as I can tell), since after you get it you are basically obligated to join every single musical group you can fit into, which leaves little time to do other things... like vce
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This probably isn't as bad because I'm for a public school and scholarships are worth about $500 p.a. (levies, books, uniform) but the only person who got the full one at my school ended up coming third. First and second came to the 2 who got half-scholarships :D.
you don't actually have to pay the levies.
The books and the uniform are probably already $500...
Mind you, that was a LONG time ago for me (I had a scholarship during my time at Dandenong High's SEAL [then ALP] program in Years 7-8)
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Unless you actually want to become a musician when you grow up, music scholarships are horrible (as far as I can tell), since after you get it you are basically obligated to join every single musical group you can fit into, which leaves little time to do other things... like vce
totally agree ... I had the music dept on my back to co-direct the music of the middle school musical, play in concerts, enter comps with random music groups, accompany ppl, etc etc blah blah ..... in year 12. god it was frustratingly annoying. and i couldnt turn them down because then they'd give me the "you're a music scholar its your responsibility" talk. =.='