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Title: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: FreshFish on January 11, 2010, 01:14:40 pm
Hi guys,

When i was entering my preference i really was not sure between two of my preference. I really don't want my 1st preference, however i really want to do my 3rd preference and for the 2nd preference i just put there for fun even though i wont get in. What can i do? The 1st adn 3rd preference are both between my enter so theres no trouble there. What can i do? i really want my 3rd option rather than 1st. It all changed after i entered them in. It was to late to change it, do you think they will offer me my 3rd pref on the 2nd round of offers? Any suggestions
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: Gloamglozer on January 11, 2010, 01:20:10 pm
In that case, if you're ENTER is above this year's Clearly-In, then you will get your first preference regardless and will not receive any other offers in any subsequent rounds.

However, if you really want your third preference then you can apply for an Irregular Offer.
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: FreshFish on January 11, 2010, 01:24:10 pm
In that case, if you're ENTER is above this year's Clearly-In, then you will get your first preference regardless and will not receive any other offers in any subsequent rounds.

However, if you really want your third preference then you can apply for an Irregular Offer.

How would i apply for an irregular offer?
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: brightsky on January 11, 2010, 01:27:59 pm
FreshFish, this is worth a look: http://www.vtac.edu.au/get/offers.html

I think you need to fill in an application form and send it in..
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: FreshFish on January 11, 2010, 01:30:40 pm
what the fuck did i get my self into. hOLY crap. im going to have a heart attack.
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: brightsky on January 11, 2010, 01:31:52 pm
There are always ways around things, FreshFish. Just need to do some surfing on the net.
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: Gloamglozer on January 11, 2010, 01:33:28 pm
In that case, if you're ENTER is above this year's Clearly-In, then you will get your first preference regardless and will not receive any other offers in any subsequent rounds.

However, if you really want your third preference then you can apply for an Irregular Offer.

How would i apply for an irregular offer?

The form will be available in MyInfo.  

1.  You simply fill out the form.
2.  Contact the selection officer at the respective university for the course you want to get into.
3.  Ask them if they are willing to accept you (ie. if they have any more places left).
4.  If yes, then you simply give them form in person (this is the safest thing to do) and ask them to sign it.  Once you and the selection officer have signed it, then it is means they have officially accepted you.

However, not all selection officers know if a place is available.  Should that occur, the selection officer may take down your name and contact details and will contact you should a vacancy arise.

Also note that if you apply for an Irregular Offer, you forfeit the right to be considered for any other offers listed on your preferences.
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: FreshFish on January 11, 2010, 01:36:23 pm
In that case, if you're ENTER is above this year's Clearly-In, then you will get your first preference regardless and will not receive any other offers in any subsequent rounds.

However, if you really want your third preference then you can apply for an Irregular Offer.

ok, my first preference is not over the clearly in. Its just over the fringe  enter. The course that i really want to do thats my 3rd preference is below my enter. So do you think theres a likelyhood of getting into the 3rd preference coz my enter is about 1 point over their clearly in. My second preference do not think about because i just put it for the sake of it. Its way over my enter. SO..??
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: FreshFish on January 11, 2010, 01:38:07 pm
do i have to wait till next monday for this to all happen?
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: Gloamglozer on January 11, 2010, 01:39:33 pm
In that case, if you're ENTER is above this year's Clearly-In, then you will get your first preference regardless and will not receive any other offers in any subsequent rounds.

However, if you really want your third preference then you can apply for an Irregular Offer.

ok, my first preference is not over the clearly in. Its just over the fringe  enter. The course that i really want to do thats my 3rd preference is below my enter. So do you think theres a likelyhood of getting into the 3rd preference coz my enter is about 1 point over their clearly in. My second preference do not think about because i just put it for the sake of it. Its way over my enter. SO..??

Ok.  In that case, the best scenario would be:

1.  You get rejected from the first two courses listed.
2.  And if the Clearly-In ENTER for your third preference is still below your ENTER, then you will be offered a place for your third preference.

However, if that above scenario does not work out, and you really, really wanted your third preference, then an Irregular Offer would be the way to go - despite not giving you a 100% guarantee that you will be offered your third preference.

do i have to wait till next monday for this to all happen?

Yes, next Monday - the earliest.  :)
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: FreshFish on January 11, 2010, 01:56:04 pm
Ok, thanks guys. appreciate alot.
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: jejak on January 11, 2010, 02:03:31 pm
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Also note that if you apply for an Irregular Offer, you forfeit the right to be considered for any other offers listed on your preferences.

Does this mean, after applying for an irregular offer, that you also forfeit the right to your 1st round offer, given that it has already been made to you? (I understand you can only apply for irregular offers after 1st round.) Or only that you forfeit the right to any _2nd round_ offers made after the irregular offer?

If that sounded a bit tortured and obscure: I'm 99% sure I'm going to get an offer for my 1st preference (Arts/Law Monash) for round 1 on the 18th. I will accept that offer. After that date, if I make an irregular offer for Arts at UoM, do I automatically lose my offer for Arts/Law?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: Gloamglozer on January 11, 2010, 02:34:12 pm
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Also note that if you apply for an Irregular Offer, you forfeit the right to be considered for any other offers listed on your preferences.

Does this mean, after applying for an irregular offer, that you also forfeit the right to your 1st round offer, given that it has already been made to you? (I understand you can only apply for irregular offers after 1st round.) Or only that you forfeit the right to any _2nd round_ offers made after the irregular offer?

If that sounded a bit tortured and obscure: I'm 99% sure I'm going to get an offer for my 1st preference (Arts/Law Monash) for round 1 on the 18th. I will accept that offer. After that date, if I make an irregular offer for Arts at UoM, do I automatically lose my offer for Arts/Law?

Thanks.

I understand what you mean.  From what I believe, if you have received a first round offer and then do decide to apply for an Irregular Offer and then fail, then you can still accept your first round offer.

However, I'm not sure about this but I don't see why applying for an Irregular Offer and then failing would forfeit your first round offer.  After all, to officially decline the offer, you just don't rock up to enrollment day.

EDIT:  I've just called VTAC and they said that you can accept your first round offer and then if you do fail at getting the Irregular Offer, then at least you still have the comfort and safety of knowing that you still have a tertiary place in 2010.
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: jejak on January 11, 2010, 02:45:33 pm
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I've just called VTAC and they said that you can accept your first round offer and then if you do fail at getting the Irregular Offer, then at least you still have the comfort and safety of knowing that you still have a tertiary place in 2010.

Yay!  ;D Thanks so much. Definitely going to try for an irregular offer, then. You really are a fount of knowledge when it comes to the vagaries of VTAC. I do wonder, though, for something like Arts at UoM, which a lot of people must apply for, how many vacancies they would have for the chronically indecisive like me.

Also, if you don't mind, I'm just curious - are you going to request an irregular offer yourself? If so, what are you thinking of applying for?
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: Gloamglozer on January 11, 2010, 02:50:06 pm
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I've just called VTAC and they said that you can accept your first round offer and then if you do fail at getting the Irregular Offer, then at least you still have the comfort and safety of knowing that you still have a tertiary place in 2010.

Yay!  ;D Thanks so much. Definitely going to try for an irregular offer, then. You really are a fount of knowledge when it comes to the vagaries of VTAC.

If you don't mind, I'm just curious - are you going to request an irregular offer yourself? If so, what are you thinking of applying for?

I only have my careers adviser back in high school to thank.  She was pretty awesome when it came to these sort of things. And also, I'm so relieved I actually listened during those assemblies about VTAC lol.

I don't think I'll apply for an Irregular Offer.  When I submitted my preferences, I was pretty careful with how I ordered my preferences because fortunately, I knew how the system worked.  However, having said that, you and I never know what might happen next Monday so I'll keep my options open.  :)
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: FreshFish on January 11, 2010, 03:18:23 pm
so that means, if i dont accept my 1st offer and fail for my irregular offer. im doomed? LOL
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: QuantumJG on January 11, 2010, 03:49:44 pm
btw FreshFish, if you don't mind me asking? What is your first preference and your third preference?
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: FreshFish on January 11, 2010, 04:06:48 pm
1st is Construction management and 3rd is Civil Eng.
I really wanted CM, however change of mind and now i really want Civil
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: QuantumJG on January 11, 2010, 04:23:15 pm
Damn that's really annoying!

If the worst case scenario happens, accept your offer (do NOT decline an offer) and try and change over to civil engineering (I'm assuming both courses are at the same institution).

Anyway, try for that irregular offer.
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: FreshFish on January 11, 2010, 04:35:33 pm
do we accept the offer on the spot or is there a certain day where we accept and enroll.
I have a slight problem, ill be going on a vaction from this saturday till tuesday. If im not given a place in civil, would it be latee if i give my irregular offer form in wednesday? Thats the only problem im having. What if i wait till wednesday and theres no available room left for the course?
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: Gloamglozer on January 11, 2010, 07:11:19 pm
so that means, if i dont accept my 1st offer and fail for my irregular offer. im doomed? LOL

You can always wait until Round 2 and then the Supplementary Rounds but there's no guarantee you'll get a place.

do we accept the offer on the spot or is there a certain day where we accept and enroll.
I have a slight problem, ill be going on a vaction from this saturday till tuesday. If im not given a place in civil, would it be latee if i give my irregular offer form in wednesday? Thats the only problem im having. What if i wait till wednesday and theres no available room left for the course?

You will be sent a package by the university that has offered you a place.  You can accept the offer by going online and then attending the enrolment day.  If you do not turn up to enrolment day, the university assumes that you have rejected the offer.

Don't worry.  The enrolment dates are usually a week after the 18th - that's what I was told by the VTAC representative today.  And with regards to the Irregular Offer form, each institution has different closing dates so I would check with the respective institution for more details.
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: FreshFish on January 14, 2010, 11:52:24 pm
so that means, if i dont accept my 1st offer and fail for my irregular offer. im doomed? LOL

You can always wait until Round 2 and then the Supplementary Rounds but there's no guarantee you'll get a place.

do we accept the offer on the spot or is there a certain day where we accept and enroll.
I have a slight problem, ill be going on a vaction from this saturday till tuesday. If im not given a place in civil, would it be latee if i give my irregular offer form in wednesday? Thats the only problem im having. What if i wait till wednesday and theres no available room left for the course?

You will be sent a package by the university that has offered you a place.  You can accept the offer by going online and then attending the enrolment day.  If you do not turn up to enrolment day, the university assumes that you have rejected the offer.

Don't worry.  The enrolment dates are usually a week after the 18th - that's what I was told by the VTAC representative today.  And with regards to the Irregular Offer form, each institution has different closing dates so I would check with the respective institution for more details.



I wont be home till the 19th. Ill be away, so does that leave me with time to get an irregular offer ?? Or shall i skip camp this year and go to the uni asap on monday to apply for an irregular? i spoke with a rep from RMIT and they said not to worry as you still would have time.
Title: Re: Preference Mistake!!
Post by: Gloamglozer on January 14, 2010, 11:55:54 pm
so that means, if i dont accept my 1st offer and fail for my irregular offer. im doomed? LOL

You can always wait until Round 2 and then the Supplementary Rounds but there's no guarantee you'll get a place.

do we accept the offer on the spot or is there a certain day where we accept and enroll.
I have a slight problem, ill be going on a vaction from this saturday till tuesday. If im not given a place in civil, would it be latee if i give my irregular offer form in wednesday? Thats the only problem im having. What if i wait till wednesday and theres no available room left for the course?

You will be sent a package by the university that has offered you a place.  You can accept the offer by going online and then attending the enrolment day.  If you do not turn up to enrolment day, the university assumes that you have rejected the offer.

Don't worry.  The enrolment dates are usually a week after the 18th - that's what I was told by the VTAC representative today.  And with regards to the Irregular Offer form, each institution has different closing dates so I would check with the respective institution for more details.



I wont be home till the 19th. Ill be away, so does that leave me with time to get an irregular offer ?? Or shall i skip camp this year and go to the uni asap on monday to apply for an irregular? i spoke with a rep from RMIT and they said not to worry as you still would have time.

Don't worry.  Getting home a day after round 1 is released isn't going to hinder your process that much.  After round 1, if you are still absolutely adamant that an Irregular Offer is the way to go, then just log in to MyInfo, download the form and fill it out.  Then ring the selection officer for the course at RMIT and ask them if they are willing to take you in.