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Title: Methods study score
Post by: Eriny on October 20, 2007, 09:58:59 pm

I usually don't make these kinds of threads, actually I'm usually the one answering them, but I was wondering about my methods study score.

I've done a heap of practise exams and I've been geting all mid/high-A-level results for exam one and mid-B+-level results for exam two. I'm going to practise some more extended response over the next few weeks (by the way, does anyone have any advice for extended response other than "practise, practise, practise"?) but I'm not sure how much better I'll get in this relatively short space in time.

The thing is though, I have yet to do the 2006 exam 2 (we're going to do it in class next week), so my results for all exam twos have been with extended response only, as opposed to extended response and multiple choice as will be on the real exam. Hence, I'm thinking that with my relative eptitude for multiple-choice, I might be able to work up to an A for exam 2, or a high B+ at the very least.

My ranking is very good, I'd be in the top two or three in my class at least. So, what will my study score be?

Title: Methods study score
Post by: enwiabe on October 20, 2007, 10:26:21 pm

Exam 2's:

My best advice would be to approach the question from a logical mindset. Put away the equations, put away the formulae and graphs and everything else. Ask yourself "what do I need to find?"

Once you know what you need to find, it's a matter of then finding the right equation to give it to you. Exam 2 is about problem solving, you've got to approach the questions logically.

As for your study score, nobody knows. You've got to do your best on the exam and hope that everyone else does shit, but if I could hazard a guess I'd say around 36 from what you've told us.

Title: Methods study score
Post by: Ahmad on October 20, 2007, 10:44:20 pm

36-37 raw is my guess.

For exam 2, I don't know if this helps, but draw graphs of all important equations in the questions.

Title: Methods study score
Post by: enwiabe on October 20, 2007, 10:45:36 pm

Graphs are useless unless you know what you're looking for. Interpret the question first, and *then* graph it. :P But what do I know? You beat me :(

Title: Methods study score
Post by: Ahmad on October 20, 2007, 10:48:03 pm

Not really, plus, beating you was down to luck rather than skill. Although I never did this, I think if you draw the graphs you can use them to interpret what the question is asking.

Title: Methods study score
Post by: asa.hoshi on October 21, 2007, 09:24:56 am

Its different for everyone of interpreting questions. But I agree with Ahmad, I tend to draw a lil sketch to understand what the question is about!

Title: Methods study score
Post by: joechan521 on October 29, 2007, 05:41:39 pm

this is what i had last yr from statement of marks
sac 100 scale down to 98
exam1 78/80
exam2 160/160
study score 47 , i expected much higher >.<

Title: Methods study score
Post by: Odette on October 29, 2007, 06:39:12 pm

Quote from: "joechan521"

this is what i had last yr from statement of marks
sac 100 scale down to 98
exam1 78/80
exam2 160/160
study score 47 , i expected much higher >.<

Wow!! thats an awesome score lol ...

Title: Methods study score
Post by: bilgia on October 29, 2007, 08:09:15 pm

what the hell thats an awesome study score...methods is too unpredictable i think so even though we might be the best from school its not enough to get the score u wanted..loL so many of my friends estimate methods scores of 45-47, but it takes a bit of luck to go that far i reckn.

Title: Methods study score
Post by: enwiabe on October 29, 2007, 10:45:23 pm

Me last year:

SACs: 91 scaled to 97
Exam 1: 80/80
Exam 2: 154/160

SS: 44

utter bullshit

Title: Methods study score
Post by: melanie.dee on October 29, 2007, 10:51:45 pm

geez cant drop many marks in methods to get a mid-high 40s study score! thanks god i dont plan on getting higher than 25 for methods 8)

Title: Methods study score
Post by: Ahmad on October 29, 2007, 10:53:58 pm

I too dropped three marks. I think my study score is a precise reflection of my accuracy. So if methods tests accuracy, then it has achieved its purpose.  :)

Title: Methods study score
Post by: asa.hoshi on October 29, 2007, 11:19:31 pm

i reckon this year's methods exam will be a very different!

Title: Methods study score
Post by: AppleXY on October 29, 2007, 11:54:27 pm

Yeah, I'm pretty damn sure that Exam 1 will be too hard. 2006's exam was a joke. lol. (zomg find a composite function of two simple functions wow :p]

Title: Methods study score
Post by: Collin Li on October 30, 2007, 12:34:45 am

Quote from: "AppleXY"

Yeah, I'm pretty damn sure that Exam 1 will be too hard. 2006's exam was a joke. lol. (zomg find a composite function of two simple functions wow :p]

Find f(g(x)), where f(x) = loge(x), g(x) = e^(x).

Title: Methods study score
Post by: Michael on October 30, 2007, 09:06:34 am

Quote

Find f(g(x)), where f(x) = loge(x), g(x) = e^(x).

Answer is x?

Title: Methods study score
Post by: Collin Li on October 30, 2007, 11:50:57 am

Find g(f(x))

Title: Methods study score
Post by: reg on October 30, 2007, 11:59:15 am

Also x? :\

1) e^(ln(x)) == ln(e ^ x) == x
2) ln(e^x) == x

Title: Methods study score
Post by: Ahmad on October 30, 2007, 12:02:23 pm

x for which values of x  8)

Title: Methods study score
Post by: AppleXY on October 30, 2007, 01:56:57 pm

dom f o g = ran g

dom g o f = dom g = ran f

 if f = ln

• and g
• = e^x

:. f[g

• ] = ln[e^
• ]

              = x, x belongs to R

:. g[f

• ] = e^[ln
• ]

              = x, R+

Title: Methods study score
Post by: 2happy on October 30, 2007, 08:49:21 pm

what if class average on sacs=50% ; my average=same
If I get v.high both exams;
SS ??

Title: Methods study score
Post by: Odette on October 30, 2007, 08:51:20 pm

Quote from: "2happy"

what if class average on sacs=50% ; my average=same
If I get v.high both exams;
SS ??

Well I'm not 100% sure but possibly mid 30s could be wrong though.

Title: Methods study score
Post by: 2happy on October 30, 2007, 08:58:40 pm

hope i do get it!
b.t.w. how do/did you guys manage studying y11 subs and 1 3/4 last year/this year?

Title: Methods study score
Post by: Odette on October 31, 2007, 07:18:18 am

Quote from: "2happy"

hope i do get it!
b.t.w. how do/did you guys manage studying y11 subs and 1 3/4 last year/this year?

Ahh well  i had to allocate time for both methods and my year 11 subjects... just had a study timetable in place :)
(even though i rarely studied for methods lol)

Title: Methods study score
Post by: 2happy on October 31, 2007, 07:02:02 pm

yeh; i hope this years exam is not easy.

Title: Methods study score
Post by: Odette on October 31, 2007, 07:03:23 pm

Quote from: "2happy"

yeh; i hope this years exam is not easy.

:shock: wouldnt you want it to be easy? lol

Title: Methods study score
Post by: ninwa on October 31, 2007, 07:08:45 pm

no cos then everyone will do well lol and it'll be reaaaaally hard to get a high score. like last years methods exams. apparently heaps of ppl got full marks

Title: Methods study score
Post by: reg on October 31, 2007, 07:11:58 pm

yet the mean was still 54% or something stupidly low

Title: Methods study score
Post by: ninwa on October 31, 2007, 07:14:13 pm

really?  :?

apparently the cutoff for A+ was 92%. that's huge.

Title: Methods study score
Post by: reg on October 31, 2007, 07:16:42 pm

er, you are right if you're talking about exam 1 (gg me, l2context), the exam 2 marks were still very poor.

The mean was 54%, but A+ cutoff was indeed 93.75% (http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2006/gradeassess/vce_math_methods_ga06.pdf)

Which brings me to: why, why oh why is 54.5% considered a B -.-.

Title: Methods study score
Post by: cara.mel on October 31, 2007, 07:17:26 pm

If you made stupid mistakes last year, it screwed you over at the top end
Like I wrote the derivative of 6x^3 was 12x^2 and I never picked it up x_x I  got an A for exam 1 xD

Title: Methods study score
Post by: joechan521 on October 31, 2007, 07:38:59 pm

last yr my mistake was after finding the length, i forgot to sub back in to find the area...i think took off 2 marks

Title: Methods study score
Post by: dashkenny on November 05, 2007, 05:37:49 pm

yes sick i just want a 25-30

with sac scores of B

what do i need on exams around percentages ? :) cheeers

Title: Methods study score
Post by: AhaShake on November 05, 2007, 06:13:20 pm

i got

81/100 to 91/100
76/80
156/160
for a study score of 40.
the school really screwed us year 11s over. our sacs were ridiculously hard. i believe mel had the highest ranking in the class and got 89/100 raw.

Title: Methods study score
Post by: cara.mel on November 05, 2007, 06:31:11 pm

Quote from: "AhaShake"

i got

81/100 to 91/100
76/80
156/160
for a study score of 40.
the school really screwed us year 11s over. our sacs were ridiculously hard. i believe mel had the highest ranking in the class and got 89/100 raw.

You only got 91 for sacs? Didn't know that.
Wow, you really got screwed over :(

Title: Methods study score
Post by: 2happy on November 05, 2007, 10:51:46 pm

my average is 50% and so is my class - hard sac's; what score do i need to get on exam 2 to get around 30-35

Title: Methods study score
Post by: asa.hoshi on November 05, 2007, 10:58:30 pm

dont worry what % u got for ur sacs.
its ur ranking in ur year lvl and ur exam score that plays a part in the calculation of your study score.

Title: Methods study score
Post by: 2happy on November 05, 2007, 11:12:32 pm

let's say i am ranked 33 at the worst /40 ; teachers/other students dont tell us scores: so we're not sure. what exam 2 mark would i need?