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Title: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 14, 2010, 02:40:18 pm
Hey,
I just need help with this question. I know that its really simple but its just not working out for me.
Any help is appreciated

Calculate the amount (in mole) of:
 Cl ions in 13.4g of nickel chloride (NiCl2)
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: the.watchman on January 14, 2010, 02:45:21 pm
Well using with and for NiCl2,



As there are two chloride ions in each molecule of nickel chloride, there is 0.2068mol of Cl ions.

I have only got a headstart on chem and not done any at school, so if I'm wrong, please let me know!
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: xD_aQt on January 14, 2010, 02:46:41 pm
Well using with and for NiCl2,



As there are two chloride ions in each molecule of nickel chloride, there is 0.2068mol of Cl ions.

I have only got a headstart on chem and not done any at school, so if I'm wrong, please let me know!
Haha, damn you beat me to it! :)
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 14, 2010, 02:47:27 pm
Nah thats right, thanks....
Its like simple revision but I just couldnt get it....
I guess thats what happens when you havent done chemistry in like 3 months
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: xD_aQt on January 14, 2010, 02:48:22 pm
Nah thats right, thanks....
Its like simple revision but I just couldnt get it....
I guess thats what happens when you havent done chemistry in like 3 months
You should be alright! Not too late to revise
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 14, 2010, 02:49:17 pm
Yeah im just going through the first 4 chapters of my text book....
Its pretty much revision off last year.... nothing new yet
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: the.watchman on January 14, 2010, 02:50:32 pm
Yeah im just going through the first 4 chapters of my text book....
Its pretty much revision off last year.... nothing new yet


Good luck! I just covered a few chapters of Chem Unit 1
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 14, 2010, 02:52:15 pm
I hated chem 1..... it took so long for me to understand mole
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: xD_aQt on January 14, 2010, 02:56:20 pm
I hated chem 1..... it took so long for me to understand mole
+1 me too ;)
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 14, 2010, 03:10:28 pm
Thats good to hear.... i thought I was the only one...  ;D
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 15, 2010, 12:48:31 am
I have another simple question......

Determine the percentage composition of the following compound
Lead (IV) oxide (PbO2)

So I used the empirical formula method to determine:
207.37/239.3688 : 31.9988/239.3688
       0.866         :       0.134
       86.6%        :       13.4%

The answer in the book is 13.4% but in the question it doesn't specify which ion to find the percentage of so i was wondering if the question just means oxygen, or there was like a typo or something in the book.
Btw the book is Heinmann Chemistry Two
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: superflya on January 15, 2010, 12:51:29 am
oh my bad, i remember doing this question...ur looking for the percentage composition of oxygen.
wording of question is shit.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: Potter on January 15, 2010, 01:00:25 am
I have another simple question......

Determine the percentage composition of the following compound
Lead (IV) oxide (PbO2)



If the question is written like this, calculate the percentages of all the elements. The book probably just got lazy.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 15, 2010, 01:01:42 am
I think I wrote it wrong in the book it says Lead(IV)oxide (PbO2)...

Yeah do textbooks even make typo's....
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: superflya on January 15, 2010, 01:03:52 am
^^ true and seeing as there are only 2 elements ur pretty much finding both the compositions at the one time.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: superflya on January 15, 2010, 01:04:36 am
I think I wrote it wrong in the book it says Lead(IV)oxide (PbO2)...

Yeah do textbooks even make typo's....

A LOT OF TYPOS.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 15, 2010, 01:05:51 am
Really...... why do we have to pay money for them if they have typo's......
It's very misleading as well......

Oh well.... what can you do?
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: superflya on January 15, 2010, 01:14:53 am
^^ live with it, no choice.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 15, 2010, 11:32:33 am
I have another question.....

Magnesium reacts with hydrochloric acid according to the equation:
Mg(s) + 2HCl(aq) -> MgCl2(aq) + H2(g)
If 10.0g of magnesium reacts completely, calculate the mass of hydrogen that forms
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: xD_aQt on January 15, 2010, 11:42:38 am
I have another question.....

Magnesium reacts with hydrochloric acid according to the equation:
Mg(s) + 2HCl(aq) -> MgCl2(aq) + H2(g)
If 10.0g of magnesium reacts completely, calculate the mass of hydrogen that forms


n = = = 0.41152263374485596707818930041152
m = nM = 0.41152263374485596707818930041152 x 2 = 0.82304526748971193415637860082305 g
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 15, 2010, 11:45:41 am
Nah, sorry the answer in the back is 0.0824g......

I've done what you did, but i multiplied it by 2 because its H2
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: the.watchman on January 15, 2010, 11:46:20 am
I have another question.....

Magnesium reacts with hydrochloric acid according to the equation:
Mg(s) + 2HCl(aq) -> MgCl2(aq) + H2(g)
If 10.0g of magnesium reacts completely, calculate the mass of hydrogen that forms


n = = = 0.41152263374485596707818930041152
m = nM = 0.41152263374485596707818930041152 x 1 = 0.41152263374485596707818930041152 g

Is that right?

Shouldn't it be 2mol of hydrogen gas?
And please round off to the correct number of sigfigs :P
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 15, 2010, 11:48:22 am
^
Thats what i did but its still wrong
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: xD_aQt on January 15, 2010, 11:48:50 am
Nah, sorry the answer in the back is 0.0824g......

I've done what you did, but i multiplied it by 2 because its H2
does the back say 0.0824 g ? I thought the answer be 0.823 g

I have another question.....

Magnesium reacts with hydrochloric acid according to the equation:
Mg(s) + 2HCl(aq) -> MgCl2(aq) + H2(g)
If 10.0g of magnesium reacts completely, calculate the mass of hydrogen that forms


n = = = 0.41152263374485596707818930041152
m = nM = 0.41152263374485596707818930041152 x 1 = 0.41152263374485596707818930041152 g

Is that right?

Shouldn't it be 2mol of hydrogen gas?
And please round off to the correct number of sigfigs :P
I will round off .. my bad :P
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 15, 2010, 11:50:09 am
Yeah it says 0.0824g but I also got 0.823g

Maybe its just another typo in the book
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: xD_aQt on January 15, 2010, 11:51:42 am
Yeah it says 0.0824g but I also got 0.823g

Maybe its just another typo in the book
Haha, could be! What book is this? Heinemann?
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 15, 2010, 11:52:42 am
Yeah its heinemann.......  do they make typo's alot cause i found another one yesterday????
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: xD_aQt on January 15, 2010, 11:53:43 am
Yeah its heinemann.......  do they make typo's alot cause i found another one yesterday????
Yeah, they tend to make a few typo's! Just post up any questions that you think may have a typo in the answer section.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: xD_aQt on January 15, 2010, 11:54:33 am
by the way which question is this ? could you tell me the page?
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 15, 2010, 11:57:19 am
Ummm this one was Chapter 2 Q14b. page.21
Btw Q14a worked fine.....

and the one from the other day was Chapter 2 Q10 page.18

Have you been studying for chemistry over the holidays?
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: xD_aQt on January 15, 2010, 12:00:57 pm
I'm taking a break from Chemistry this month! I went hard out last month :)
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 15, 2010, 12:02:06 pm
Yeah I'm the opposite.... did nothing last month now gotta speed through it before school...
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 15, 2010, 02:39:29 pm
Got another question....:)

Iron metal is extracted in a blast furnace by a reaction between iron(III)oxide and carbon monoxide:
Fe2O3(s) + 3CO(g) -> 2Fe(l) + 3CO2(g)
To produce 1000kg of iron, calculate the volume of CO2 produced at SLC(25C and 101.3kPa)
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: vexx on January 15, 2010, 02:51:30 pm
^
i may as well attempt:)

n(Fe)=1,000,000/55.9
= 17,889mol
n(CO2)=(3/2) x n(Fe)
n(CO2)=26,883mol

Pv=NRT
v(CO2)=nRT/P
v=26883 x 8.31 x (25+273)/101.3
=655,975 L
sig figs: = 656 kL
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: Potter on January 15, 2010, 03:41:30 pm
^
i may as well attempt:)

n(Fe)=1,000,000/55.9
= 17,889mol
n(CO2)=(3/2) x n(Fe)
n(CO2)=26,883mol

Pv=NRT
v(CO2)=nRT/P
v=26883 x 8.31 x (25+273)/101.3
=655,975 L
sig figs: = 656 L


That looks good to me. Though, there's one thing I would've done differently.
Since it's at SLC conditions just multiply n(CO2) by 24.5, it's simple and reduces variables(which may lead to errors)
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: vexx on January 15, 2010, 03:45:43 pm
^ oh yeah i forgot about it being SLC! that's definitely a better way to do it.
but atleast mine way works with anything that isn't SLC or STP too :P
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: crappy on January 15, 2010, 03:49:56 pm
at SLC:

Volume=24.5 x n(?)

at STP:

Volume = 22.5 x n(?)


god, I hate chem
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: fady_22 on January 15, 2010, 03:54:56 pm
Also, be careful with units: you said 656 L. Its 656 kL! :)
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: Edmund on January 15, 2010, 03:58:02 pm
Molar volume of an ideal gas:



where Vm is 22.4 L/mol or 24.5 L/mol depending on SLC or STP...
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: vexx on January 15, 2010, 03:58:55 pm
Also, be careful with units: you said 656 L. Its 656 kL! :)

oops- thanks for that! changed.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 15, 2010, 04:09:16 pm
Just double checking for chemistry do you wait till the very end to round off... right???
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: the.watchman on January 15, 2010, 04:10:27 pm
Just double checking for chemistry do you wait till the very end to round off... right???

For an accurate answer, round off at the very end.
However, you can work through a question either 1 or 2 decimal places more than your final answer will be, that is OK.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: vexx on January 15, 2010, 04:14:59 pm
Just double checking for chemistry do you wait till the very end to round off... right???

For an accurate answer, round off at the very end.
However, you can work through a question either 1 or 2 decimal places more than your final answer will be, that is OK.

yeah,
just keep everything on your calculator

so for example with calculating volume from a gas
find the mol
n=m/M
don't erase the calc !! if it was like 101.15949842 on the screen keep it.

then in the next equation
v=NRT/P
use what was on your calc to continue and times by N x R then dvide by P. then round off at final answer!

most calculations let you do this
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: fady_22 on January 15, 2010, 04:17:44 pm
Just double checking for chemistry do you wait till the very end to round off... right???

For an accurate answer, round off at the very end.
However, you can work through a question either 1 or 2 decimal places more than your final answer will be, that is OK.

yeah,
just keep everything on your calculator

so for example with calculating volume from a gas
find the mol
n=m/M
don't erase the calc !! if it was like 101.15949842 on the screen keep it.

then in the next equation
v=NRT/P
use what was on your calc to continue and times by N x R then dvide by P. then round off at final answer!

most calculations let you do this

If your calculator doesn't do this, it would be a good idea to buy a new one.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 15, 2010, 04:20:48 pm
What's a good calc for chem.... cause i have the casio classpad for methods which is great but i have been told i cant use that one in the chem exams
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: vexx on January 15, 2010, 04:22:42 pm
What's a good calc for chem.... cause i have the casio classpad for methods which is great but i have been told i cant use that one in the chem exams


i think/heard from others/been told by the teacher that the SHARP Scientific Calculators are the best for chem/accounting. i have the:
"Sharp EL-531WH - Advanced D.A.L."
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: fady_22 on January 15, 2010, 04:25:42 pm
Yeah, you can't use the casio classpad (or any other graphics calculators). You have to use a scientific calculator in the exam (this is also the case with physics and accounting).
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: fady_22 on January 15, 2010, 04:27:34 pm
What's a good calc for chem.... cause i have the casio classpad for methods which is great but i have been told i cant use that one in the chem exams


i think/heard from others/been told by the teacher that the SHARP Scientific Calculators are the best for chem/accounting. i have the:
"Sharp EL-531WH - Advanced D.A.L."

I use the Texas Instruments TI-30XB. Its better than the sharp in my opinion.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 15, 2010, 04:34:06 pm
Whats the difference between a graphics calc and a scientific one???
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: Potter on January 15, 2010, 04:40:45 pm
You'll find it really helps in MC exam questions. I think 90% of the time SLC(298k, 101.3kPa) is used in questions. I've rarely seen STP(273K, 101.3kPa).

You can save things in the graphics/CAS.

I use a Casio Fx-82AU. Pretty good calculator and it has been very reliable.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: superflya on January 15, 2010, 06:46:24 pm
u can also install apps on a graphics calc, ive got this pretty sweet app for chem.
best way to keep ur answers as accurate as possible is to use the store function on the calculator and recall the value whenever u need it again. This way, u can simply round off after u have completed ur calculations and almost every scientific calculator should be able to do this.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: kyzoo on January 15, 2010, 07:37:23 pm
You can save things in the graphics/CAS.

You can save things in a scientific calculator as well, just that there are a lot more "slots" on a graphics calculator.

Also graphics calculators can generate graphs, run installed programs, and contains many more functions than a scientific calculators.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: Potter on January 15, 2010, 09:22:39 pm
You can save things in the graphics/CAS.

You can save things in a scientific calculator as well, just that there are a lot more "slots" on a graphics calculator.

Also graphics calculators can generate graphs, run installed programs, and contains many more functions than a scientific calculators.

Sorry, I meant you can save things like apps, formulas, etc..
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 16, 2010, 11:14:01 am
Aight got another question....

An impure sample of iron(II)sulfate, weighing 1.545g, was treated to produce a precipitate of Fe2O3. If the mass of the dried precipitate was 0.315g, calculate the percentage of iron in the sample.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: xD_aQt on January 16, 2010, 11:19:13 am
Aight got another question....

An impure sample of iron(II)sulfate, weighing 1.545g, was treated to produce a precipitate of Fe2O3. If the mass of the dried precipitate was 0.315g, calculate the percentage of iron in the sample.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: fady_22 on January 16, 2010, 11:24:23 am
n(Fe203)=m/mr
            =.315/159.7
            =1.97*10^-3 mol
n(Fe3+)=1.97*10^-3*2
           =3.94*10^-3 mol

m(Fe3+)=n*mr
            =3.94*10^-3*55.85
            =.22g

% Fe in sample= .22/1.545*100
                     = 14.3%
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: naved_s9994 on January 16, 2010, 03:00:13 pm
What's a good calc for chem.... cause i have the casio classpad for methods which is great but i have been told i cant use that one in the chem exams


i think/heard from others/been told by the teacher that the SHARP Scientific Calculators are the best for chem/accounting. i have the:
"Sharp EL-531WH - Advanced D.A.L."

I use the Texas Instruments TI-30XB. Its better than the sharp in my opinion.

Also TI-82 AU does same as TI-30XB, but it is also cheaper. (Only by $5 or so?)
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 22, 2010, 02:29:21 pm
Hey, i need help with another question..

A 2.203g sample of an organic compound was extracted from a plant. When it was burned in oxygen, the hydrogen in the compound was converted to 1.32g of water and the carbon was oxidised to 3.23g of carbon dioxide.
What is the empirical formula of the compound??

Thanks
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: xD_aQt on January 22, 2010, 03:19:36 pm
Hey, i need help with another question..

A 2.203g sample of an organic compound was extracted from a plant. When it was burned in oxygen, the hydrogen in the compound was converted to 1.32g of water and the carbon was oxidised to 3.23g of carbon dioxide.
What is the empirical formula of the compound??

Thanks
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: Studyinghard on January 22, 2010, 03:32:11 pm
Hey, i need help with another question..

A 2.203g sample of an organic compound was extracted from a plant. When it was burned in oxygen, the hydrogen in the compound was converted to 1.32g of water and the carbon was oxidised to 3.23g of carbon dioxide.
What is the empirical formula of the compound??

Thanks

I remember doing this question. Is this heineman textbook :P?
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 22, 2010, 04:00:27 pm
Yeah its from heinmann... I just couldn't figure it out...
I hate empirical formulas
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 23, 2010, 12:46:29 pm
Ok, so i would just like to know if my working out is right.

What mass of barium chloride will remain after a 15.0g sample of the hydrated salt BaCl2.2H2O is heated to drive off all the water.

n(BaCl2)= 15.0/208.246
           = 0.07203019506mol
n(BaCl2)/n(H2O)= 2/1
n(H2O)= 0.1440603901mol

m(H2O)= 0.1440603901 x 18.01534
          = 2.595296908g

15.0g-2.595296908g
= 12.4g
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: xD_aQt on January 23, 2010, 12:49:11 pm
I got 12.8 g
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 23, 2010, 12:53:06 pm
How'd you work it out then???
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: S2paramore on January 23, 2010, 01:18:12 pm
I agree with xD_aQt. Your working doesn't seem to be correct.

I think it should be:

M(BaCl2 . 2 H2O) = 208.226 + 36.04 = 244.266 g/mol
n(BaCl2 . 2H2O) = 15.0 / 244.266 = 0.0614 mol
n(BaCl2 . 2H2O)= n(BaCl2)= 0.0614 mol
Mass BaCl2 = 0.0614 x 208.226 = 12.8 g
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: Edmund on January 24, 2010, 01:55:58 pm
I think the equation should look like this:



And have the same working as S2paramore/xD_aQt
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 30, 2010, 02:39:22 pm
Alright, i got another one:

For a 0.20M solution of potassium sulfate, K2SO4, calculate the amount, in mole, of:
-Potassium ions
-Sulfate ions
-oxygen atoms

Any help would be great
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: fady_22 on January 30, 2010, 02:47:18 pm
It doesn't give enough information, skip it (it doesn't give you the volume of solution!).
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: cindyy on January 30, 2010, 02:47:35 pm
how come it doesnt give the volume :S that is so weird ...
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: cindyy on January 30, 2010, 02:48:34 pm
i have the solutions in front of me now, and this is what is written in the solution:

a   n(K2SO4) = C × V = 0.20 × 0.250 = 0.050 mol
        n(K+) = 2 × n(K2SO4) = 2 × 0.050 = 0.10 mol
b   n(SO42-) = n(K2SO4) = 0.050 mol
c   n(S) = n(K2SO4) = 0.050 mol


but doesnt give the volume in the Q
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 30, 2010, 02:53:58 pm
I hate my textbook... Thats like the 5th mistake so far.....
Thanks for your help though guys
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: cindyy on January 30, 2010, 02:56:08 pm
yeah i am using heinmann as well! but i actually quite like it, and i havent found any mistakes so far :S
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 30, 2010, 03:01:06 pm
Where did you get the solutions from???
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: superflya on January 30, 2010, 03:06:10 pm
yeah i am using heinmann as well! but i actually quite like it, and i havent found any mistakes so far :S

there a quite a few questions in the heinemann book with dodgy wording.
Where did you get the solutions from???

look around they were posted up a while back, use the search tool at the top right of ur window.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: cindyy on January 30, 2010, 03:23:59 pm
ill give you solutions for chapter 3, your doing that now right?
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: andy456 on January 30, 2010, 04:06:29 pm
Thanks... yeah im trying to speed through chapter 3
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: cindyy on January 30, 2010, 04:11:10 pm
no worries, let me know when you need other chapters, i cbbs loading them all on now.
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: Edmund on January 30, 2010, 04:38:02 pm
I've added the links to the answers to this stickied thread so it's easier to find :P
Title: Re: Easy Chem help
Post by: cindyy on January 30, 2010, 05:01:28 pm
good ideaa (Y)