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Title: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: lynt.br on February 16, 2010, 01:51:21 am
Right, time is running out and I cannot choose between two potential timetables:

(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8582/timetable.jpg)

Note that the LAW2101 tutorial on Thursday on the first option can be moved to Friday at the same time so I'm not just going in for one lecture.

Also note it takes me about 5 minutes to drive to Monash and 15 minutes by public transport. I is also likely that I will be looking for part time/casual work while studying.

So with that in mind, which option would you recommend?
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Mao on February 16, 2010, 02:01:08 am
Option 1 [by a fucking mile]:

It means you'll have a whole day off, plus two days that are 'optional'* (if you so choose to skip lectures). Leaving two mandatory days.

That is considered a /MassiveWin by any standards.


*'optional' is only optional if you can actually catch up and manage to pass. But seeing as you do law, I'm sure you are smart enough to know what study is required, or that you actually should attend your lectures if you have to.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: TrueTears on February 16, 2010, 02:06:54 am
how do u generate these timetables? I just picked mine using allocate+?
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: chocolate05 on February 16, 2010, 07:58:23 am
option one. you start classes earlier which means you'll have more time to work after classes, especially on mondays and fridays and you'll have wednesday off every week just to work as well.

congrats on getting into law btw!
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: hyperblade01 on February 16, 2010, 07:59:28 am
how do u generate these timetables? I just picked mine using allocate+?

MUTTS... you search up your units, you tick the boxes you want, you generate a timetable

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u128/hyperblade01/monashtimetable4.png)

Best i could do.... but that management tutorial can be moved to 12:30pm. Whatever the case during that huge break I can either attempt to get some study done (I've heard I won't), go home and come back OR go to chadstone :P


EDIT: Option one btw - a whole day off! Plus you'll be done by 12 on Monday
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Mao on February 16, 2010, 10:20:03 am
@hyperblade01: I will bet after a few weeks, you'll stop going to Mondays as well due to 1) it's not important and 2) Monday-itis.

You will also probably stop going to the two chem lectures at 9AM, because 11AM starts sound so much more appealing.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Fyrefly on February 16, 2010, 11:43:59 am

Option 1.

It's not even a competition.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: hyperblade01 on February 16, 2010, 12:48:48 pm
@hyperblade01: I will bet after a few weeks, you'll stop going to Mondays as well due to 1) it's not important and 2) Monday-itis.

You will also probably stop going to the two chem lectures at 9AM, because 11AM starts sound so much more appealing.

You say it so casually :P as if its the norm and everyone's gonna do it

So after a few weeks, how many people are still gonna be going to lectures at 8, 9am? 30% of the original? 50%?

Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Fyrefly on February 16, 2010, 12:50:53 pm
@hyperblade01: I will bet after a few weeks, you'll stop going to Mondays as well due to 1) it's not important and 2) Monday-itis.

You will also probably stop going to the two chem lectures at 9AM, because 11AM starts sound so much more appealing.

You say it so casually :P as if its the norm and everyone's gonna do it

So after a few weeks, how many people are still gonna be going to lectures at 8, 9am? 30% of the original? 50%?



15%
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: hyperblade01 on February 16, 2010, 12:54:45 pm
@hyperblade01: I will bet after a few weeks, you'll stop going to Mondays as well due to 1) it's not important and 2) Monday-itis.

You will also probably stop going to the two chem lectures at 9AM, because 11AM starts sound so much more appealing.

You say it so casually :P as if its the norm and everyone's gonna do it

So after a few weeks, how many people are still gonna be going to lectures at 8, 9am? 30% of the original? 50%?



15%


Yet, that Chem lecture stream has the highest popularity out of the three =.= The other two all are like 10,11,12 but then the other two have a friday one :P



Well thats great. I was gonna say if half stopped showing up I wouldn't be swayed but if you're saying FIFTEEN percentage...
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: ninwa on February 16, 2010, 01:08:05 pm
... one of them you get a day off

how is this even a choice?! :P
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Fyrefly on February 16, 2010, 03:21:08 pm
@hyperblade01: I will bet after a few weeks, you'll stop going to Mondays as well due to 1) it's not important and 2) Monday-itis.

You will also probably stop going to the two chem lectures at 9AM, because 11AM starts sound so much more appealing.

You say it so casually :P as if its the norm and everyone's gonna do it

So after a few weeks, how many people are still gonna be going to lectures at 8, 9am? 30% of the original? 50%?



15%


Yet, that Chem lecture stream has the highest popularity out of the three =.= The other two all are like 10,11,12 but then the other two have a friday one :P



Well thats great. I was gonna say if half stopped showing up I wouldn't be swayed but if you're saying FIFTEEN percentage...

Well... it always varies depending on the quality of the lecture, how good the lecturer is and such... but the numbers quickly dwindle.

Take my Jap lecture last semester for instance... 11am Mondays... about 120 students enrolled... about 20 showing up by week 3 (and it's an 11am class, not 9am).

Non-attendance is wide-spread and across the board. During the first week of classes, students who favour ticket-parking over permits will likely have extreme difficulty finding parking. Everyone comes first week. No-one cares by week 3.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Cthulhu on February 16, 2010, 03:51:30 pm
I hope I get a day off :(
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: hyperblade01 on February 16, 2010, 04:43:43 pm
Non-attendance is wide-spread and across the board. During the first week of classes, students who favour ticket-parking over permits will likely have extreme difficulty finding parking. Everyone comes first week. No-one cares by week 3.

This sounds interesting... does it apply to the start of semester 2 as well?

I'm taking public transport down but my parents are willing to pay for my all-day ticket parking if they need me to go from uni to somewhere else straight away (i dont know why...but whatever). They were actually gonna buy me a permit till they realised it was like $320 LOL.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: methodsman on February 16, 2010, 08:03:59 pm
Non-attendance is wide-spread and across the board. During the first week of classes, students who favour ticket-parking over permits will likely have extreme difficulty finding parking. Everyone comes first week. No-one cares by week 3.

This sounds interesting... does it apply to the start of semester 2 as well?

I'm taking public transport down but my parents are willing to pay for my all-day ticket parking if they need me to go from uni to somewhere else straight away (i dont know why...but whatever). They were actually gonna buy me a permit till they realised it was like $320 LOL.
WTF?! Is that for blue zone or red zone?
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: jimmy999 on February 16, 2010, 08:50:52 pm
Blue zone is $320 for Monash Clayton. It's the cheapest permit next to carpooling which is free
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: methodsman on February 16, 2010, 08:57:42 pm
Blue zone is $320 for Monash Clayton. It's the cheapest permit next to carpooling which is free
Just looked at it. Red zone is $600! Defs getting blue zone then.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Fyrefly on February 16, 2010, 09:21:28 pm
Blue zone is $320 for Monash Clayton. It's the cheapest permit next to carpooling which is free
Just looked at it. Red zone is $600! Defs getting blue zone then.

For a uni student with class four days a week both semesters, a blue permit works out to about $3.50 per day for parking. This doesn't include free parking @ Caulfield RC during exams, which costs $5 each day for those without permits.

For a student going three days a week, it works out to be about $4.10 a day... ticket-parking used to cost $4.40 and is better situated, so I used to use the ticket-parking instead of buying a permit for the days I didn't carpool. But they jacked up the price in 2009, and ticket-parking now costs $6 a day. I also fail at carpooling... last year's carpool buddy was very unreliable, and the carpool buddy from the year before wasn't pitching in any cash so I decided I wasn't driving him any more.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Fyrefly on February 16, 2010, 10:05:32 pm

where do we go on MUTTS  to generate this... major help@!!

I shall endeavor to explain, with the aid of paint (ALL HAIL PAINT!):

Log in: http://mutts.monash.edu.au/MUTTS/

On the links on the right-hand side, click "2010 Timetable" and then click "View by Unit".

The next screen is a bit wtf, but:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh109/fyrefly89/MUTTS1.jpg)

1. Type in your unit code
2. Click on the SEMESTER 1 option for your unit code and click the arrow to move it across.
3. Repeat for each of your units.

When you've done all your units, scroll down and click the "View Grid Timetable" link.

You'll get this (which looks *completely* trippy):

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh109/fyrefly89/MUTTS2-1.jpg)

These are ALL the times available for ALL of your units.
Go through and tick the check boxes for the tute/lect/lab/etc time you actually want for each of your units.
When you've done that, scroll all the way down and click "Rebuild with selection".

You'll get something much prettier looking, like this:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh109/fyrefly89/MUTTS3.jpg)

And voilą!


If you haven't decided your preferred timetable yet for some reason (Allocate preference entry closes in 2 days, btw), you may find sorting through all the class times easier in the "View as Flat Timetable" screen instead. Pick your preferred times on this screen, click "Rebuild with selection", then click on the "View as Grid Timetable" to get the same result.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: TrueTears on February 16, 2010, 10:11:33 pm
Hey Fyrefly, picking our timetable is just putting in preferences right? MUTTS is just something to help us yeah?

Coz I didn't use MUTTS at all and I don't think any of my classes clash.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Fyrefly on February 16, 2010, 10:11:56 pm

Ah, I accidentally selected both lecture time options for MKC1200... you get the idea though, right?

Only select your number one option for each unit's tute/lab/lect/seminar/etc... but if there are two parts to the same option (like, in this example there's two-part AFC1000 lectures), be sure to select *both* parts.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Fyrefly on February 16, 2010, 10:18:18 pm
Hey Fyrefly, picking our timetable is just putting in preferences right? MUTTS is just something to help us yeah?

Yeah, just something to help... it doesn't actually do anything.
Personally, I don't like MUTTS and don't use it... but it's not too painful for me to show others how to use it if they so wish to.

The only thing I find favourable about it is that it lists all class locations (Allocate only lists the ones the unit coordinator has bothered to type in). For instance, I know this semester that my back-to-back tutes are wonderfully nearby this semester and I'll merely have to drift from Menzies East Wing to West Wing... last semester I had to constantly leave my macro tute early so I could get across to my Jap tute on time (which was... strangely, in one of the med buildings).
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on February 16, 2010, 10:43:05 pm
I think you're doing lots of repeats, mine is much (much much much) more compact than yours

EDIT: should look something like this...?

(http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt352/SmRandmAzn/Capture.png)
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Fyrefly on February 16, 2010, 10:56:00 pm
wtf so if i dont know how to do it are they going to do one for me anyway and fix it up?

You've put your preferences into Allocate, right?

If you don't like MUTTS, don't use it... it doesn't actually *do* anything... it's just a tool some people (not me) choose to use.

Gimme 10mins and I'll make you a decent MUTTS timetable, if you're that stressed about it.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Fyrefly on February 16, 2010, 11:08:10 pm

What are your prefs for Allocate??

Tell me your first prefs for each of your tutes, lectures and labs.

Here's a potential timetable I've done for you, but I can make one with your first prefs in a couple of mins if you tell me what they are.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Fyrefly on February 16, 2010, 11:25:43 pm
AFC1000 lecture
Part 1: 01-P1, Mon, 09:00
Part 1: 02-P1, Wed, 09:00
Part 2: 01-P2, Tue, 15:00   2:
Part 2: 02-P2, Thu, 14:00   

[Bolded ones work better with your other times, you only need to pick the "P1" stream or the "P2" stream... I picked "P2"]

AFC1000 tutorial
1:   Mon10:30CL

BTC1110  lecture

Part 1: 01-P1, Wed, 12:00
Part 2: 01-P2, Thu, 12:00

BTC1110 tutorial

Wed10:00C

FIT1001 lecture

01-P1    CL    Mon    11:00
01-P2    CL    Tue    11:00

FIT1001 tutorial

Wed11:00CL

FIT1006  lab

Thu15:00CL

FIT1006 lexture

1-P1    CL    Mon    10:00
01-P2    CL    Tue    13:00

THANKGS AGAIN FYREFLY ILY :p


Your 1st prefs clash... see on Monday and Wednesday?
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: TrueLight on February 16, 2010, 11:38:08 pm
lol screw mutts... i don't like using it... i only use it rarely to see what times units will be on
create ur own in excel or something with allocate
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Mao on February 16, 2010, 11:55:38 pm
MUTTS is God. Learn to use it, also learn to use multiple tabs.

Red Permit is God, but cannot be purchased since you have to be staff. Though I have friends whose parents work at Monash but have retired, but they still get to use the red permit (FUCK YOU RATS, FUCKING JEALOUS)

Blue Permit is demi-God, being able to rock up at uni any time you need to and know you'll get a park, and won't have to worry about if you have enough coins to pay for parking today, or if over-exposure to the sun will kill your dash.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: methodsman on February 17, 2010, 11:21:09 am
I think you're doing lots of repeats, mine is much (much much much) more compact than yours

EDIT: should look something like this...?

(http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt352/SmRandmAzn/Capture.png)
This is a pro timetable - mine's too spread out.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: hard on February 17, 2010, 11:59:07 am
fyrefly i want my timetable to look like how you did it before! what did you put as my first prefs?

also what do i put first for the AFC1000 lecture should i put

   Part 1: 02-P1, Wed, 09:00
Part 2: 02-P2, Thu, 14:00    2:   Part 1: 01-P1, Mon, 09:00
Part 2: 01-P2, Tue, 15:00

BTC1110 now looks like this:

:   Part 1: 01-P1, Wed, 12:00
Part 2: 01-P2, Thu, 12:00    2:   Part 1: 02-P1, Wed, 16:00
Part 2: 02-P2, Thu, 15:00
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Fyrefly on February 17, 2010, 01:28:09 pm
fyrefly i want my timetable to look like how you did it before! what did you put as my first prefs?

also what do i put first for the AFC1000 lecture should i put

   Part 1: 02-P1, Wed, 09:00
Part 2: 02-P2, Thu, 14:00    2:   Part 1: 01-P1, Mon, 09:00
Part 2: 01-P2, Tue, 15:00

BTC1110 now looks like this:

:   Part 1: 01-P1, Wed, 12:00
Part 2: 01-P2, Thu, 12:00    2:   Part 1: 02-P1, Wed, 16:00
Part 2: 02-P2, Thu, 15:00

Put your first prefs into Allocate as:

FIT1006:
Lecture 01/P1 Mon 10am
Lecture 01/P2 Tues 1pm
Lab/04 Wed 2pm

FIT1001:
Lecture 01/P1 Mon 11am
Lecture 01/P2 Tues 11am
Tute/08 Thurs 12pm

BTC1110:
Lecture 02/P1 Wed 4pm
Lecture 02/P2 Thurs 3pm
Tute/16 Wed 10am

AFC1000:
Lecture 02/P1 9am Wed
Lecture 02/P2 2pm Thurs
Tute/38 Wed 11am


I've got work now, but I'll check on here later tonight if you need more help (preference-entry mode closes 5pm tomorrow).
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: hard on February 17, 2010, 02:40:26 pm
thanks fyrefly but um just one thing, with FIT006 there is no 2pm?
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: methodsman on February 17, 2010, 06:07:21 pm
thanks fyrefly but um just one thing, with FIT006 there is no 2pm?
How come ur doing FIT1006 without doing FIT1001?
http://www.infotech.monash.edu.au/resources/student/course-maps/3830-cl-bcom-bbis.pdf
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: methodsman on February 17, 2010, 06:13:44 pm
According to this:
[IMG]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7007/courserequirements.jpg[/img]

FIT 1006 isn't a requirement for bcomm/bbis.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: costargh on February 17, 2010, 06:19:43 pm
Im doing FIT1003 FIt1004 FIT2001 and FIT2006 this year
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: methodsman on February 17, 2010, 06:21:29 pm
Im doing FIT1003 FIt1004 FIT2001 and FIT2006 this year
Nevertheless, in this case, FIT1006 isn't part of the course.
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: Kairubin on February 18, 2010, 12:50:07 am
Non-attendance is wide-spread and across the board. During the first week of classes, students who favour ticket-parking over permits will likely have extreme difficulty finding parking. Everyone comes first week. No-one cares by week 3.

blue.

This sounds interesting... does it apply to the start of semester 2 as well?

I'm taking public transport down but my parents are willing to pay for my all-day ticket parking if they need me to go from uni to somewhere else straight away (i dont know why...but whatever). They were actually gonna buy me a permit till they realised it was like $320 LOL.
WTF?! Is that for blue zone or red zone?
Title: Re: Gah, help me decide on a timetable
Post by: kendraaaaa on February 18, 2010, 12:54:34 am
Non-attendance is wide-spread and across the board. During the first week of classes, students who favour ticket-parking over permits will likely have extreme difficulty finding parking. Everyone comes first week. No-one cares by week 3.

blue.

This sounds interesting... does it apply to the start of semester 2 as well?

I'm taking public transport down but my parents are willing to pay for my all-day ticket parking if they need me to go from uni to somewhere else straight away (i dont know why...but whatever). They were actually gonna buy me a permit till they realised it was like $320 LOL.
WTF?! Is that for blue zone or red zone?

Ticket for student parking at Clayton is $320 (or something similar) a year.