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VCE Stuff => Victorian Technical Score Discussion => Topic started by: Confuzzled on March 12, 2010, 05:02:13 pm
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There have been many many posts on SAC moderation but this one is specific to Melbourne High School/Mac Rob.
A few questions on SACS:
1. WE get harder SACS! To come Rank 1 in MHS is equivalnt to a Rank 20 in a shit school....its f'n hard, much harder than schools such as St Kevins
[ no offense to any1..just an example ]...
The question is...do we ranked up just automatically cuz we're in MHS/MacRob? An A+ on an MHS SAC has got to be worth more than an A+ on a St Kevins SAC.........its just injustice.....how does the SAC business work for SELECT-ENTRY SCHOOLS?
Cheers,
Confuzzled
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Well, it doesn't depend on what school you go to, it depends on the exam results.
I guess selective schools would do better on average on the final exam, and that is what the moderation is based on.
DON'T WORRY! :)
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Do we ranked up just automatically cuz we're in MHS/MacRob?
No.
Moderation is based entirely on the cohorts performance in the exam(s).
The process is exactly the same for all schools. Though the exam grades by which moderation is completed should be higher in a select entry school, assuming the cohort's exam performance is stronger than a 'shit' school. Hence, the moderated SAC marks should also be stronger. Though it really is all dependent on the cohort's exam performance; if everyone at MHS 'screws up' the exam, then it is possible that no one would get an A+ for SAC's.
But as the.watchman said: don't worry. You'll get what you deserve.
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Most of your SACs will most likely increase. For Methods I got internal Bs, Cs and one E, and in the end it magically went up to A.
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Well i actually go to MHS (and i'm in year 12 too :))
I think it depends mostly on the subject - the subjects which i'm quite sure scale up assuming you do somewhat okay include bio, psych and accounting, not too sure about chem and physics. Though with bio if you maintain a B+ average with your SACs and you get any type of A+ on your exams, your SACs should scale up to A+ (though a low A+ SAC score).
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Well i actually go to MHS (and i'm in year 12 too :))
I think it depends mostly on the subject - the subjects which i'm quite sure scale up assuming you do somewhat okay include bio, psych and accounting, not too sure about chem and physics. Though with bio if you maintain a B+ average with your SACs and you get any type of A+ on your exams, your SACs should scale up to A+ (though a low A+ SAC score).
thats gr8 as im worried about pysch as it is highly competitive and i need a 47 +....my other ques wud b...y dont we MHS Boys go to an easy school and secure an A+ in SACS with 1 hr of work [ hypothetical ] whereas to get an A+ in MHS wud take 5 hrs of work [ hypothetical ] ....we work harder for th same marks...
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Well the MHS psych sacs aren't terribly hard (our last one was quite easy) so i doubt you'd be spending 5+ hours just studying for one. Hearing last year's year 11 psych cohort, most of them basically cram psych the night before the SAC and they do alright.
You shouldn't be too worried about SACs anyway...i assume that for psych an A average would be good enough. Plus you'd just need to get mid-high A+s on both psych exams for a 47+.
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Who's your teacher btw? Cause if you've got crocket then you should be fine...:)
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Who's your teacher btw? Cause if you've got crocket then you should be fine...:)
im in year 10 lol and have kakolyris for pysch unit1....y is crocket btr?
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...year 10 why are you so worried about 3/4s now? Chill :)
Well everyone says Crocket is better than Kakolyris...i did unit 1 psych with crocket in year 10 and unit 2 with Kakolyris last year...i don't find that there's a substantial difference in their knowledge of psych and if you're hardworking at psych then it doesn't really matter which teacher you have. It's really a matter of opinion.
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Most of your SACs will most likely increase. For Methods I got internal Bs, Cs and one E, and in the end it magically went up to A.
That's MHS magic
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It depends on the subject. I don't think a B at MHS in art would scale up to an A+; a similar average in chemistry probably would. The distribution of SAC marks relies on the distribution of exam scores.
At Mac.Rob last year, there were 3 50s in physics. Obviously only one of those came from the top ranked student. In English Language, I'm pretty sure that the girl who scored 50 didn't come in the top handful.
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1. WE get harder SACS! To come Rank 1 in MHS is to come Rank 20 in a shit school....its f'n hard, much harder than schools such as St Kevins
The question is...do we ranked up just automatically cuz we're in MHS/MacRob? An A+ on an MHS SAC has got to be worth more than an A+ on a St Kevins SAC.........its just injustice.....how does the SAC business work for SELECT-ENTRY SCHOOLS?
0.o How would you know that you have harder SACs than other schools? How is it injustice?
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Lol I don't think that answers the question at all...
EDIT: wah the post I'm replying to disappeared
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1. WE get harder SACS! To come Rank 1 in MHS is to come Rank 20 in a shit school....its f'n hard, much harder than schools such as St Kevins
The question is...do we ranked up just automatically cuz we're in MHS/MacRob? An A+ on an MHS SAC has got to be worth more than an A+ on a St Kevins SAC.........its just injustice.....how does the SAC business work for SELECT-ENTRY SCHOOLS?
0.o How would you know that you have harder SACs than other schools? How is it injustice?
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,2411.0.html
Read that....its just KNOWN that MHS SACS are way tougher.
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stop complaining, do the work and ull be fine.
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I go to a very highly ranked school though not MHS or MacRob, and received a mark of less than 50% my first Further sac for Part 1 of the core, if I get an average of B's for the next few sacs and then (as well as my cohort) assumably do well in the exam (A average), will this help my horrible mark? if so can it be guessed by how much?
Thank you!
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Well since it's further and you're expecting an A on your exam, i'd doubt your sacs would be marked up much, if they end up getting marked up at all.
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Well since it's further and you're expecting an A on your exam, i'd doubt your sacs would be marked up much, if they end up getting marked up at all.
yea seeing as its further u wont see much of a difference.
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To come Rank 1 in MHS is to come Rank 20 in a shit school...
Lolwut? Awesome with a rank of 20 in a shit school I get no. 1 at MHS? I think you confused your wording, it made me sit here for a minute thinking about it. Do you mean being number one rank at a "shit" school is equivalent to a ranking of 20 at MHS? Just to clear some confusion :)
EDIT: lol the quoting stuffed up but all fixed now :P
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Ooh yes i didn't realise that :)
But by getting into Melbourne High you probably have above-average intelligence and/or attitude. The SACs are apparently harder, but if they're harder, then since you were able to get into this school you should be able to handle them fine.
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The SACs at MHS and Mac.Rob are usually (but not always) much more difficult than other schools because there's the need to separate 250/350 very capable students.
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Are you from Mac. ROb?^
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Yeah, appianway's Macrob :)
(I'm only answering, because she's not on atm :P)
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i wish i got the chance to apply to get in to macrob :( oh well 4c is the same thing :P
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Theres only a certain area they can test you on - the study design. SAC's cant be that hard, they only test you on stuff youve learned.
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They can be impossibly long and have harsh marking criteria.
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Wow this must be the biggest Bs thread ever. Dont give me all this injustice crap. Like said before you guys at MHS get your sacs scaled up without even doing anything. Even if you like get really bad scores for SACS like how SmRandmAzn said about the methods score they still get scaled up to A's and A+'s. So stop the whining and grow up.
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Yea dewd you're in year 10. CHIIIILLLL out
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@Studyinghard, the SACs get scaled up for a reason - not for nothing. It generally makes it fair. It just makes it harder to top the cohort and win the corresponding school-based prizes, that's all.