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Title: Scaling of Methods
Post by: Christiano on March 21, 2010, 04:48:52 pm
What is the lowest point in the study score where methods is no longer scaled? Does it also begin to scale down if it is too low?

I'm contemplating dropping methods for further in semester 2. A few weeks ago I gave myself the mindset that I would plough through it.

..The return of my quadratics test result (which I got 21% for, lowest record from 63%) gave me the impression I could not cope.

Did anyone struggle this hard at a point in their methods course?
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: Visionz on March 21, 2010, 04:51:29 pm
You cant pick up further halfway through a year. Further is a 3/4. You cant pick up anything halfway through the year.
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: superflya on March 21, 2010, 04:52:44 pm
give it one more shot, if u screw up the next test in much the same way as this one then drop it :P

You cant pick up further halfway through a year. Further is a 3/4. You cant pick up anything halfway through the year.

his in yr 11 :P and prob means general.
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: shinny on March 21, 2010, 04:53:44 pm
You cant pick up further halfway through a year. Further is a 3/4. You cant pick up anything halfway through the year.

I think he means General Maths.
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: m@tty on March 21, 2010, 05:09:35 pm
I believe Methods scales up, right from 1 up till 49. 0 and 50 don't scale for most subjects, including Methods. Have you seen the scaling report before? Anyway, it outlines the scaling at various points of each subject. Link.
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: Christiano on March 21, 2010, 05:11:06 pm
Yeah, sorry, to clarify its general further math (year 11).

give it one more shot, if u screw up the next test in much the same way as this one then drop it :P

Oh how I shall ..

I believe Methods scales up, right from 1 up till 49. 0 and 50 don't scale for most subjects, including Methods. Have you seen the scaling report before? Anyway, it outlines the scaling at various points of each subject. Link.

Thanks, that's what I was looking for.
Well, if I was ever to continue with this devil subject, my aim would be to get at least 25 (scaled up) SS. I'm in a pretty average cohort, so what relative marks would I need to average in SACS and the exam to get 20 RAW? Also, do tests in methods count towards the ENTER?
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: superflya on March 21, 2010, 05:14:36 pm
Yeah, sorry, to clarify its general further math (year 11).

give it one more shot, if u screw up the next test in much the same way as this one then drop it :P

Oh how I shall ..



stop it. this negativity wont help, just give it all u got im sure u can improve. methods isnt a hard subject :P
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: Christiano on March 21, 2010, 05:21:32 pm
Ahaha :D I reckon English is easier perhaps because I'm more of a humanities student. Grr why can't math be plain and simple.
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: schmalex on March 21, 2010, 05:32:53 pm
Yeah, sorry, to clarify its general further math (year 11).

give it one more shot, if u screw up the next test in much the same way as this one then drop it :P

Oh how I shall ..

I believe Methods scales up, right from 1 up till 49. 0 and 50 don't scale for most subjects, including Methods. Have you seen the scaling report before? Anyway, it outlines the scaling at various points of each subject. Link.

Thanks, that's what I was looking for.
Well, if I was ever to continue with this devil subject, my aim would be to get at least 25 (scaled up) SS. I'm in a pretty average cohort, so what relative marks would I need to average in SACS and the exam to get 20 RAW? Also, do tests in methods count towards the ENTER?

my friends got Cs in SACs, didn't show up to the first exam and got like a D or E for her second exam and got a 20 RAW
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: superflya on March 21, 2010, 06:25:17 pm
Yeah, sorry, to clarify its general further math (year 11).

give it one more shot, if u screw up the next test in much the same way as this one then drop it :P

Oh how I shall ..

I believe Methods scales up, right from 1 up till 49. 0 and 50 don't scale for most subjects, including Methods. Have you seen the scaling report before? Anyway, it outlines the scaling at various points of each subject. Link.

Thanks, that's what I was looking for.
Well, if I was ever to continue with this devil subject, my aim would be to get at least 25 (scaled up) SS. I'm in a pretty average cohort, so what relative marks would I need to average in SACS and the exam to get 20 RAW? Also, do tests in methods count towards the ENTER?

my friends got Cs in SACs, didn't show up to the first exam and got like a D or E for her second exam and got a 20 RAW

LOL so theres a glimmer of hope.
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on March 21, 2010, 06:27:48 pm
I think Methods scales for all study scores but 50. Mine scaled to 49.72 or around there.
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: Christiano on March 21, 2010, 07:08:10 pm
Yeah, sorry, to clarify its general further math (year 11).

give it one more shot, if u screw up the next test in much the same way as this one then drop it :P

Oh how I shall ..

I believe Methods scales up, right from 1 up till 49. 0 and 50 don't scale for most subjects, including Methods. Have you seen the scaling report before? Anyway, it outlines the scaling at various points of each subject. Link.

Thanks, that's what I was looking for.
Well, if I was ever to continue with this devil subject, my aim would be to get at least 25 (scaled up) SS. I'm in a pretty average cohort, so what relative marks would I need to average in SACS and the exam to get 20 RAW? Also, do tests in methods count towards the ENTER?

my friends got Cs in SACs, didn't show up to the first exam and got like a D or E for her second exam and got a 20 RAW

LOL so theres a glimmer of hope.
Haha, yeah  ;D
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: appianway on March 21, 2010, 08:58:04 pm
Just wondering, why are you doing methods? Does it have any relevance to your future career? Is it a prerequisite?

If you don't like it and don't understand it, I'd recommend that you drop it unless you need it.
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: darkphoenix on March 21, 2010, 09:00:19 pm
LOL i reckon if its that much of a struggle then drop it, it wouldn't be worth the effort.

Unless of course you need it, for uni courses or whatever, then in that case, just gotta fight through it. :)
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: Christiano on March 21, 2010, 09:35:44 pm
I want to pursue courses in order of priority: Medicine, Biomedicine, Science (First choice @ UoM), Law.

Doctor, Genetic Engineer, something in Biochemistry or Civil Law ..

So unfortunately, if I wanna be in any of those besides law, I'll need to do methods one way or another.

It's just, I've never hated anything with so much passion..GRRR  >:(
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: TrueLight on March 21, 2010, 11:12:08 pm
haha yeah i hated methods too... u just gotta do it then
if u do bad i still reckon u can get above 25

lol from doctor to genetic engineer.. the jump the jump...
Title: Re: Scaling of Methods
Post by: slothpomba on March 21, 2010, 11:54:34 pm
Note: Monash medicine doesnt require methods...if your sure youll get in dont do it... but every other backdoor (biomed, science, ect) does need it ... so caution