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VCE Stuff => VCE Mathematics => VCE Mathematics/Science/Technology => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Specialist Mathematics => Topic started by: samiira on March 24, 2010, 06:51:52 pm
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What are your sac results.. so we can liek compare wiv eachother
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failed.
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failed.
same
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failed.
same
me three
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failed.
This will soon be me :(:P
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failed.
This will soon be me :(:P
and me
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Find out tomorrow :-\
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Lol I screwed up my first SAC really badly
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Ours was a two hour analysis task. The teacher made it ridiculously hard, so no-one in the class is expecting over 50%.
I'll try to post a copy of it here when we get it back.
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Yeah same^^ 2 hours analysis
I got really bad, so pissed cause it wasnt even that hard, just made stupid mistakes.
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Lol I screwed up my first SAC really badly
let me guess.....ummmm.....you lost 1 mark?
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Lol I screwed up my first SAC really badly
let me guess.....ummmm.....you lost 1 mark?
noob
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Lol I screwed up my first SAC really badly
let me guess.....ummmm.....you lost 1 mark?
Nah, lost 4-5
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cheer up people, nothing wrong with failing ;)
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2 hrs...? myn is bloody 3 hours.. and iam continuing the second part tommorrow.. weve got mcq questions.. and we have to pick the right answer showing full working out and we also have to explain in full why the other options were wrong..and its got da weirdest questions ever man
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i didn't do amazing in my first sac, got the lowest in the class which was still an A. I thought i would get maybe a D or C, so i was happy. then my teacher said to me 'yes i know you are feeling very disappointed at the moment, as you should be.'
wow teachers are amazing at moral support.
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We had a two component sac. Each part was 45 mins. The 1st component was pretty ok, second was fair hard. I got 36/36 and 30/36 and was absolutely over the moon. I think i'll try putting sac up when i get it bak after the hols. I think it was a rather good sac.
And Liv sifff ur re-doing methods??? sooo shoud've done uni maths instead of methods again so you can blitz spech:) And if that's 43 raw for chinese you probs wont need methods cos you only reli need to get spech gud- which it would be if you do uni maths- and get one other subjects good. (and eng has to count anyway)
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i would've done uni maths except i didn't study for the exams properly because i was told i was repeating methods ANYWAYS and so my score was....a little on the lower side.
and whenever i study spesh, my parents tell me 'you don't need to study this. study methods and chemistry.'
:( if only we could re-do some choices...
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Had two SACs so far and got 38/40 on both of them.
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We've had one analysis sac, that was ridiculously hard. I got rank 1 with 63%...
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We've had one analysis sac, that was ridiculously hard. I got rank 1 with 63%...
wow, that must've been quite a sac
It almost the same situation with the end of year GMA exam we had last year. It was impossible. We have some serious freaks in our year level, not a single person finished, a few came closeish, but only a few. It was brutal.
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This isn't a SAC, but apparently at APhO in 2001 the highest score on one of the theory questions was 3/10. The average was about 0.5.
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We've had one analysis sac, that was ridiculously hard. I got rank 1 with 63%...
wow, that must've been quite a sac
It almost the same situation with the end of year GMA exam we had last year. It was impossible. We have some serious freaks in our year level, not a single person finished, a few came closeish, but only a few. It was brutal.
xD our semester 1 GMA exam was like that. There was a linear independence question that only one person in the whole year level got right, and only two ppl got A+, I think the highest mark was 74/80. Semester 2 GMA exam was way easier though xD.
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the teacher who wrote our exam, it was his 1st year teaching at our school, previous to that he taught at UoM. Like no joke, the stuff he put on the exam was ridiculous. If it appered on the actualy spech exam in yr 12......it just wouldn't it was that hard. Like, kyzoo remember the stuff Dr He talked about in the last class and said that the q he was showing us wouldn't turn up on the exam cos it was too hard....well the questions on the exam were probs about that standard
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the teacher who wrote our exam, it was his 1st year teaching at our school, previous to that he taught at UoM. Like no joke, the stuff he put on the exam was ridiculous. If it appered on the actualy spech exam in yr 12......it just wouldn't it was that hard. Like, kyzoo remember the stuff Dr He talked about in the last class and said that the q he was showing us wouldn't turn up on the exam cos it was too hard....well the questions on the exam were probs about that standard
Wow must've been so hard then :O Do SACs get standardised? And what was the average mark?
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Ye SACs do get standardised that's why class ranking is so important
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^precisely, so chill if you get a shitty mark, as long as ur ranking is decent
and soz azure, i dunno what the adverage mark was, tho i'm pretty sure an A was something like 50%
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Ye SACs do get standardised that's why class ranking is so important
But doesn't that mean being in a school with a strong cohort disadvantages you?
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Ye SACs do get standardised that's why class ranking is so important
But doesn't that mean being in a school with a strong cohort disadvantages you?
Don't think so; I think your sac mark gets standardised relative to how well your cohort goes in the exam.
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Ye SACs do get standardised that's why class ranking is so important
But doesn't that mean being in a school with a strong cohort disadvantages you?
Don't think so; I think your sac mark gets standardised relative to how well your cohort goes in the exam.
Yep, that's basically it.
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Ye SACs do get standardised that's why class ranking is so important
But doesn't that mean being in a school with a strong cohort disadvantages you?
Don't think so; I think your sac mark gets standardised relative to how well your cohort goes in the exam.
Yep, that's basically it.
But don't different schools get different exams??
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No, everyone in the state sits the same mid year and end of year exams, and these external assessments are what is used to moderate SAC scores.
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No, everyone in the state sits the same mid year and end of year exams, and these external assessments are what is used to moderate SAC scores.
Sorry, I meant SACs, not exams. How does the standardizing process work?
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Look here.
But basically all that matters for SAC's is your ranking within your cohort (generally all students taking the subject in your school). This ranking is used in conjunction with the cohorts exam performance to moderate your SAC marks. The moderation process essentially matches the spread of the moderated SC marks with the spread of results on the exam(s), this is achieved by giving first ranking the highest exam mark as their SAC mark, and each of the quartiles the respective exam marks. eg. In a cohort of 100 25th ranking will receive the 25th highest exam mark as their SAC mark and 75th ranking will be given the 75th highest exam mark.
A simplistic, though flawed in some respects, view on moderation is that for your SAC mark you receive the exam score equivalent to your ranking. So if you are ranked 1st you receive the highest exam mark as your SAC mark, if you are 10th you receive the 10th highest exam mark as your SAC mark and so on(if you are ranked nth within your cohort your moderated SAC score will be the nth highest exam score :P).
To save confusion I will remind you that your own exam score does not change under any circumstances,the only exception being if you are granted a derived exam score.
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Okay, thanks for clearing that up :)
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No problem. :)
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Hey I wanna ask (sorry wrong board - but u seem really helpful) m@tty
is that if u average C+ 's / B's in English Language but destroy the exam (A/ A+) what SS is possible? I heard it would be based off the strength of the cohort of your year level is that true?
Cos we got a really jenk teacher (first year, detests the subject herself, steals sacs off other schools and marked our sac AGAINST the answers she got eg. slightly different = wrong etc)
Just wanna clarify tqtqtq
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I got the highest mark in our class -- and I didn't even pass -- I got 41 percent, which is definitely not worth bragging about. It was a RIDICULOUSLY hard SAC and we had pretty much NO clue what we were doing. I don't even know where he pulled the questions from. =.=
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what would you need to get in the exam to get a 40 if you were rank 1 at your school (instead of the usual "What SAC marks would i need"
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what would you need to get in the exam to get a 40 if you were rank 1 at your school (instead of the usual "What SAC marks would i need"
Pretty hard to predict these things, because it depends on your cohort at your school too, and how hard your school makes the SACs, and how everyone else does on the exam.
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what would you need to get in the exam to get a 40 if you were rank 1 at your school (instead of the usual "What SAC marks would i need"
In a year like last year perhaps you could lose 15 marks, at a guess? So ~105/120. In a harder year you could stand to lose more than that; last year the exams were taken quite well by the state.
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Look here.
But basically all that matters for SAC's is your ranking within your cohort (generally all students taking the subject in your school). This ranking is used in conjunction with the cohorts exam performance to moderate your SAC marks. The moderation process essentially matches the spread of the moderated SC marks with the spread of results on the exam(s), this is achieved by giving first ranking the highest exam mark as their SAC mark, and each of the quartiles the respective exam marks. eg. In a cohort of 100 25th ranking will receive the 25th highest exam mark as their SAC mark and 75th ranking will be given the 75th highest exam mark.
A simplistic, though flawed in some respects, view on moderation is that for your SAC mark you receive the exam score equivalent to your ranking. So if you are ranked 1st you receive the highest exam mark as your SAC mark, if you are 10th you receive the 10th highest exam mark as your SAC mark and so on(if you are ranked nth within your cohort your moderated SAC score will be the nth highest exam score :P).
To save confusion I will remind you that your own exam score does not change under any circumstances,the only exception being if you are granted a derived exam score.
I'm probably way off;
If you were ranked 1st in SAC's, yet on the exam you ranked 2nd (in other words another person within your cohort beat you during the exam), do you get their exam score even though you scored less than them on the exam? I highly doubt that's possible, I'm assuming that instead your SAC's will get moderated to your exam score yeah?