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Out of curiousity, is it possible to do UMEP even before Year 11? I think there's a person in my school's doing it...
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Out of curiousity, is it possible to do UMEP even before Year 11? I think there's a person in my school's doing it...
Probably, but what's the point of doing it so early? I mean, I "could" do methods, for example, in year 9 or 10 if I felt like putting the effort in, but there's really no point in doing things so early.
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my school would never allow it =\
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No. You're not even allowed to do it in year 11.
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Martoman is doing uni maths in year 11....
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They have to be a genius and be an exception, like Thor Taylor.
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They have to be a genius and be an exception, like Thor Taylor.
Thor did TWO Uni subjects in year 11. It was pretty crazy.
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Oh, right. They must be geniuses/exceptions because the brochures say you're not supposed to do it in year 11.
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I'm pretty sure UMEP can only count as your 6th subject, so if you do two UMEPs you will only get one score.
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wow a year10 doing umep maths, congrats! when i had umep orientation early in january this year, the coordinating manager (forgot his name) introduced himself, briefly congratulated us for getting in and then proceeded by asking those of us *not* in year 12 to raise their hands. nobody did and then he was like oh good, because if your not in year 12 your not meant to be in this program because its specifically catered for year 12's...
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^I don't know specfically what he did, but from what i gather Taylor is a god among mortals. He like did methods in year nine, spech the next year, wrote a text book the next. You know, nothing out of the ordinary :P Pretty sure he went to melbourne grammar
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^I don't know specfically what he did, but from what i gather Taylor is a god among mortals. He like did methods in year nine, spech the next year, wrote a text book the next. You know, nothing out of the ordinary :P Pretty sure he went to melbourne grammar
Yeah, he was from Grammar, pretty amazing :)
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^I don't know specfically what he did, but from what i gather Taylor is a god among mortals. He like did methods in year nine, spech the next year, wrote a text book the next. You know, nothing out of the ordinary :P Pretty sure he went to melbourne grammar
Still got screwed over by English lol, 43 or something like that
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Sounds like one of my friends in NSW (although she didn't accelerate anything... but she won an olympiad medal :)). She scored above 96 for all of her subjects (so similar to 47+?)... except English. She had an 86 for that.
But she still managed to get mid 99s...
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^I don't know specfically what he did, but from what i gather Taylor is a god among mortals. He like did methods in year nine, spech the next year, wrote a text book the next. You know, nothing out of the ordinary :P Pretty sure he went to melbourne grammar
Still got screwed over by English lol, 43 or something like that
Just out of curiosity, did he do English in last year?
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^I don't know specfically what he did, but from what i gather Taylor is a god among mortals. He like did methods in year nine, spech the next year, wrote a text book the next. You know, nothing out of the ordinary :P Pretty sure he went to melbourne grammar
Still got screwed over by English lol, 43 or something like that
then what does that make tao? a god among gods?
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^I don't know specfically what he did, but from what i gather Taylor is a god among mortals. He like did methods in year nine, spech the next year, wrote a text book the next. You know, nothing out of the ordinary :P Pretty sure he went to melbourne grammar
He did Spech in year 9 THEN Methods in year 10...
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^I don't know specfically what he did, but from what i gather Taylor is a god among mortals. He like did methods in year nine, spech the next year, wrote a text book the next. You know, nothing out of the ordinary :P Pretty sure he went to melbourne grammar
Still got screwed over by English lol, 43 or something like that
then what does that make tao? a god among gods?
Yep. So many gods these days ;)
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I wonder how many students there would be like Thor if they were given an opportunity...
After all, most schools just don't allow students to accelerate like that.
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I wonder how many students there would be like Thor if they were given an opportunity...
After all, most schools just don't allow students to accelerate like that.
I know someone who did chem 3/4 in year 7 then specialist in year 8... ;)
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That's rather cool, AzureBlue. But your school probably has more flexible policies than most others...
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Haha, wait, is AzureBlue from MGGS?
My school probably has the strictest policy D:
i did not know about my school policy cause i dont read my diary == if only i had known...
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Haha, wait, is AzureBlue from MGGS?
My school probably has the strictest policy D:
Yeah, I am. That kid isn't from my school, he's from Carey or something ;)
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How can you even do Chem 3+4 in year 7?...
What were they doing in primary school...
And spesh in year 8? :o what a genius. Were they normal age for their year, turning 13 in year 7?
Wow, how amazing. Did they do well?
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How can you even do Chem 3+4 in year 7?...
What were they doing in primary school...
And spesh in year 8? :o what a genius. Were they normal age for their year, turning 13 in year 7?
Wow, how amazing. Did they do well?
Yeah, he got quite a decent mark, 43-ish in specialist in year 8 last year? Something like that. Normal age or little bit younger I think... but not sure. I have no idea why you would want to fast-track like that, by the time he gets to year 12, he'll have like no subjects left. Or maybe he just feels like doing a subject each year until year 12. :D
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That is truly amazing. He should just skip straight to year 12 next year so he can get into to Uni; it will be much more interesting.
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How did he go with his ENTER then? (:
Um, he doesn't have one yet... he's in year 9 this year.
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Don't your study scores only have a 2 year validation? So by the end of next year, his/her Year 7 Chemistry mark won't count?
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Don't your study scores only have a 2 year validation? So by the end of next year, his/her Year 7 Chemistry mark won't count?
No? I know lots of people doing 3/4s in year 10, some 9... so why would they do it if it were to be invalid by the end of year 12?
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Don't your study scores only have a 2 year validation? So by the end of next year, his/her Year 7 Chemistry mark won't count?
Haven't you posted that before? I remember answering something like this, polky did VCE over 3 years and all scores counted.
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Don't your study scores only have a 2 year validation? So by the end of next year, his/her Year 7 Chemistry mark won't count?
Haven't you posted that before? I remember answering something like this, polky did VCE over 3 years and all scores counted.
After how many years do study scores become invalid then?
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But the scores only counted for 2 years. polky did her Chinese at the end of year 10, and finished her VCE at the end of year 12.
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Don't your study scores only have a 2 year validation? So by the end of next year, his/her Year 7 Chemistry mark won't count?
Haven't you posted that before? I remember answering something like this, polky did VCE over 3 years and all scores counted.
After how many years do study scores become invalid then?
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/faqs/vcecurrentstudents.html#H3N10088
How many subjects do I have to study each year?
The VCAA does not prescribe a minimum number of subjects/units that students have to study each year. You can take as long as you need to complete the VCE.
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I've never heard anything about scores becoming invalid..
Where did you see it brightsky?
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Hahah wow, how did he go about for Chem then?
In Year 7 I just started learning the periodic table... (like how elements were arranged etc.) lol!
And, I think there should be some validation. At least, in my opinion, I hope there is and think there should be xP
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I'm not sure...I think a friend told me. But I'm a bit doubtful on the genuinity of it now:
You can take as long as you need to complete the VCE.
From http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/faqs/vcecurrentstudents.html.
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How many subjects do I have to study each year?
The VCAA does not prescribe a minimum number of subjects/units that students have to study each year. You can take as long as you need to complete the VCE.
Ahh, that's awesome. So I can keep doing and repeating subjects for ages until I get like all perfect study scores, then get an ATAR score? Yay :) LOL
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Hahah wow, how did he go about for Chem then?
In Year 7 I just started learning the periodic table... (like how elements were arranged etc.) lol!
And, I think there should be some validation. At least, in my opinion, I hope there is and think there should be xP
I'm not sure, don't remember but I recall he did fine. :) Quite a smart kid.
Yeah, I was making up my elements song (hydrogen helium lithium beryllium boron carbon nitrogen oxygen fluorine neon sodium magnesium aluminium silicon phosphorus sulfur chlorine argon potassium calcium) :) or something like that.
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How can you even do Chem 3+4 in year 7?...
What were they doing in primary school...
And spesh in year 8? :o what a genius. Were they normal age for their year, turning 13 in year 7?
Wow, how amazing. Did they do well?
damn you matty, i got the reference
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Yeah. If you repeat year 12, for whatever reason, you keep all your previous scores. So you can take 1 or 2 subjects to boost your ENTER. Could work quite well I imagine. Though there are better pathways..
How can you even do Chem 3+4 in year 7?...
What were they doing in primary school...
And spesh in year 8? :o what a genius. Were they normal age for their year, turning 13 in year 7?
Wow, how amazing. Did they do well?
damn you matty, i got the reference
What referense? :P
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Yeah. If you repeat year 12, for whatever reason, you keep all your previous scores. So you can take 1 or 2 subjects to boost your ENTER. Could work quite well I imagine. Though there are better pathways..
How can you even do Chem 3+4 in year 7?...
What were they doing in primary school...
And spesh in year 8? :o what a genius. Were they normal age for their year, turning 13 in year 7?
Wow, how amazing. Did they do well?
damn you matty, i got the reference
What referense?
The correct spelling of spesh :)
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How can you even do Chem 3+4 in year 7?...
What were they doing in primary school...
And spesh in year 8? :o what a genius. Were they normal age for their year, turning 13 in year 7?
Wow, how amazing. Did they do well?
damn you matty, i got the reference
I still maintain that aoghaonglgadn > spesh, spec-troscopy.
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How can you even do Chem 3+4 in year 7?...
What were they doing in primary school...
And spesh in year 8? :o what a genius. Were they normal age for their year, turning 13 in year 7?
Wow, how amazing. Did they do well?
damn you matty, i got the reference
I still maintain that aoghaonglgadn > spesh, spec-troscopy.
yes, i agree, but
spech>aoghaonglgadn > spesh, spec-troscopy
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LOL irrelevancy in topic.
Anyway, just spesh, simple?
Is the Carey student doing any VCE subjs this year? ;)
Not sure, haven't talked to him in quite a while, but I'd assume so :D
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Not sure, haven't talked to him in quite a while, but I'd assume so :D
I see. I'd guess that he is doing a VCE subject each year until Year 12!
Lol I suppose, I regret not doing a 3/4 this year... otherwise my 8 subjects would fit in so much easier. I hope I don't die next year if I end up having three 3/4s and four 1/2s in year 11.
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Haha I guess it should be okay. I'm taking 5 3/4s in Year 12. :/
I wanted to do chinese this year but my school won't allow. =='
I originally wanted to do 6 VCE subjects, then 7, then 9 but now I want to do 8, which means I will have either 5 or 6 subjects in year 12... most likely 5 if I'm actually doing 8, but 3 in year 11. :)
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lol ,i think when she puts the "s" after gen maths, azure mean "specialist" maths pathway, not "standard" general maths
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lol ,i think when she puts the "s" after gen maths, azure mean "specialist" maths pathway, not "standard" general maths
I see, thanks. :D I'd prefer GMA though. (Well, it's the norm - again) :)
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lol ,i think when she puts the "s" after gen maths, azure mean "specialist" maths pathway, not "standard" general maths
I think she put the 's' for Spesh...
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(S) for S-class :p
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lol, you're taking GMS? Isn't that leading to further maths? I thought it would be GMA...
My bad, I meant General Maths (Specialist).
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Don't your study scores only have a 2 year validation? So by the end of next year, his/her Year 7 Chemistry mark won't count?
Haven't you posted that before? I remember answering something like this, polky did VCE over 3 years and all scores counted.
After how many years do study scores become invalid then?
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/faqs/vcecurrentstudents.html#H3N10088
How many subjects do I have to study each year?
The VCAA does not prescribe a minimum number of subjects/units that students have to study each year. You can take as long as you need to complete the VCE.
The two year validation thingy is for your actual ENTER/ATAR score I think.
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Muahaha it would be fun to get a bunch of uni people to all re-do spesh in one year. :knuppel2:
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lol, you're taking GMS? Isn't that leading to further maths? I thought it would be GMA...
My bad, I meant General Maths (Specialist).
Yep, get it now :) Where are you gonna do UMEP?
(We might be classmates - if I get in, that is.)
Cool :) I'm probably going to be doing it at my own school, providing that Ms Michell (brilliant teacher!) is still teaching and my timetable fits well. I'll have to ask around as things might change in a few years... where are you thinking of doing it? A lot of the UMEP teachers are really really good.
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Muahaha it would be fun to get a bunch of uni people to all re-do spesh in one year. :knuppel2:
Take out all the high scores..
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I'm not sure yet, 'cause all the schools are pretty far. I think on the melb website, it says that my school does offer it too, but I'm not so sure because I haven't heard anything about it...
Yes, your school does have it - Mr Boon Koh teaches it; my cousin completed UMEP maths at MWSC. :)
But a lot of the teachers for UMEP are very good... it'll have to depend on my timetable. You could probably make it to another school if you wanted (they normally start at 4pm) though some are at 3:30ish, when do you normally finish school (if you have your last period of class)?
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Alright thanks. Mr Koh is a pretty old teacher from M'sia/Sg'pore. (Heard he was from the former, then moved to the latter)
School usually ends at 3pm. :)
Is Mr Koh good? :D I don't mind taking in my school though, but he doesn't have much recommendations from UMEP students :P (keeping in mind that it takes quite a while to travel from MW to city...)
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I might go to Mr Koh next year...it's free as well !
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Muahaha it would be fun to get a bunch of uni people to all re-do spesh in one year. :knuppel2:
It can be done in a semester...
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ahaha yeah! and it's pretty near your school right? :P
Just two train stops away :D
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Alright thanks. Mr Koh is a pretty old teacher from M'sia/Sg'pore. (Heard he was from the former, then moved to the latter)
School usually ends at 3pm. :)
Is Mr Koh good? :D I don't mind taking in my school though, but he doesn't have much recommendations from UMEP students :P (keeping in mind that it takes quite a while to travel from MW to city...)
You're so lucky! We end at 3:20pm. The school I went to before ended at 3:15pm and primary school was 3:30pm.
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Problem is Scotch starts at 3:30 - which means I need to get there in 10 minutes... or less if I'm packing up my bag at the end of school... Oh well, if I have a spare then I'll go there, if not, I'll stay at my school or just run for the tram! It's only like 5kms away! Dr David Coulson is teaching it there this year - I think Mr Honnens taught it last year - they have REALLY good teachers and used to have Dr Evans as their head of maths. He's the one that wrote most of the Essential Maths books and wrote a few of the enrichment series books for the AMT too.
But the teacher at my school is very very good too... hard to say. Again, I'll just have to check my timetable and ask students there if the teacher that's teaching is really good.
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You could try emailing Dr Coulson to see if the time could be changed, last year the UMEP Physics time was pretty flexible.
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You could try emailing Dr Coulson to see if the time could be changed, last year the UMEP Physics time was pretty flexible.
Ok, awesome :) Probably not this year though, I'm doing UMEP Maths in 2012 which is quite a while away and I might end up staying at my school cos it's good too :)
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Are you on a scholarship AzureBlue?
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You could try emailing Dr Coulson to see if the time could be changed, last year the UMEP Physics time was pretty flexible.
LOL this is funny concidering my situation. I was planning to do umap at scotch. I have a wind band on tuesday afternoon which is when uni maths runs and they wouldn't/couldn't change it, and i GO to scotch so i have to go to MGGS for upem maths.
Granted, Ms Michell is pretty damn awesome and i'm not reli complaining seing as my school pays the fees and for me to get there and back home every week, but basically, the scotch guys get priority with when uni math runs. The only reason i'm not doing it at scotch is bcs there are 8 other guys from scotch doing it this year and Tuesday was the only day the rest of the guy could make.
Problem is Scotch starts at 3:30 - which means I need to get there in 10 minutes... or less if I'm packing up my bag at the end of school... Oh well, if I have a spare then I'll go there, if not, I'll stay at my school or just run for the tram! It's only like 5kms away! Dr David Coulson is teaching it there this year - I think Mr Honnens taught it last year - they have REALLY good teachers and used to have Dr Evans as their head of maths. He's the one that wrote most of the Essential Maths books and wrote a few of the enrichment series books for the AMT too.
But the teacher at my school is very very good too... hard to say. Again, I'll just have to check my timetable and ask students there if the teacher that's teaching is really good.
azure, don't bother doing at at scotch. Ms Michell is awesome i think i'm actually much happier doing it at MGGS. I've heard a lot about Dr Coulson (never had him personally but i have asked him with help with quite a few uni maths q's) and i like the way Ms Michell teacher much more. Yes we do have some awesome teachers, but ur not losing out by doing it at your school, plus you wouldn't need to go anywhere
Bottom line, don't bother doing it at scotch, it's not worth the hassle
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I would put money on Dr Coulson still teaching there. No one else would reli be able to propely teach it. Like, not thu lack of skill or anything, jut lack of familiarty with the course.
atm, 11 ppl do umep at mggs. Two mggs girls, some random from carlton, some random from lilydale(takes him 2 housr to get there, like 4 hours round trip!), three melb grammars, three macrobbians and a scotchie(hmmmm who could that be????)
Ms Michelle is AWSOME, seriously awesome i have had only one other teacher i've eve liked as much. Well.... not including Dr He
and evans was before my time so quite a long time ago
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I would put money on Dr Coulson still teaching there. No one else would reli be able to propely teach it. Like, not thu lack of skill or anything, jut lack of familiarty with the course.
atm, 11 ppl do umep at mggs. Two mggs girls, some random from carlton, some random from lilydale(takes him 2 housr to get there, like 4 hours round trip!), three melb grammars, three macrobbians and a scotchie(hmmmm who could that be????)
Ms Michelle is AWSOME, seriously awesome i have had only one other teacher i've eve liked as much. Well.... not including Dr He
and evans was before my time so quite a long time ago
Yeah, I reckon Ms Michell > Dr He.
Just my opinion :D That's great, relatively small class :) I'll most likely stay at my school if Ms Michell is teaching.
Wasn't Mr Honnens teaching it at your school last year though?
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Yea, honnens was, but then he stopped teaching at scotch at the end of last year. That's why Coulson is taking it now. And sifffff, Dr He is awesome!
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Yea, honnens was, but then he stopped teaching at scotch at the end of last year. That's why Coulson is taking it now. And sifffff, Dr He is awesome!
Okay, so the UMEP teachers don't necessarily change every year. So is Dr Coulsen the best maths teacher in your school now?
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hmmmmm debateable. Going off like.....skill alone, he would defs be up there. However teaching is not all about pure math skills. The teacher i had last year would not be the absolute most knowlegable, he knew his stuff, just not like.....Dr He say.......but he ws such an awesome teacher. He got reli into the classses and we all liked methods a lot. Another good teacher is Mr Balck. He is very knowlgable and i reli great guy. So, personally, i don't think that coulson is the greatest teacher. My friends that have had him didn't reli like him either.
Again the main reason that he is taking the course is becasu of his familiarity with the course having lectured at melbourne uni not two years ago.