ATAR Notes: Forum
Archived Discussion => 2014 => Results Discussion => Victoria => 2009 => Topic started by: Chromeo33 on May 08, 2010, 10:52:33 pm
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Other than Med at Monash, which courses are the most competitive (i.e. also requiring high ATAR scores) to get into?
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Law?
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dentistry is quite competitive, perhaps moreso then law.
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Yepp, dentistry is a bitch!
Clearly IN for LaTrobe Uni was 99.40 last year! Bloody insane...
Law at Monash was 99.35 haha, so pretty much the same.
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Dang.
why do people want to become lawyers ?!
what happened to the dream jobs..
The video game testers
The astronauts
The midwives..
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Physiotherapy is another one. A lot of health science related courses are in high demand, along with law, commerce, engineering at the Go8.
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Law is one of the most competitive.
I remember I went to this Monash Law session during that day after you get your ENTER, because I never thought I would get my score.
And I was interested in perhaps changing my first pref to Arts/Law rather than Med Comm to the JD.
And the room was filled with people who obviously hadn't gotten the scores they had wanted, and they were all asking questions about alternate pathways and whether they still had a chance.
1. I felt like a bit of a bitch.
2. I realised just how competitive that course was when people were pretty much crying!
Anyway, Journalism is also becoming very competitive.
RMIT Journo is 98.something now. Who needs that to be a journalist?
My course was a 97.60 2009 intake but went down because you can't defer and do as many subjects in it anymore (final intake 2010).
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Not really demand only... its more demand as compared to the amount of places. Thats why monash med is so competitive you got a 1000 people im guessing vying for what 200 places.
Demands/Places is the reason why chem at latrobe is like 60 and arts is 80 (among others anyway...)
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Yeah, arts at Melbourne is actually the most popular course, but it isn't that competitive because there are a lot of places
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Actually more like 2000 hopefuls for Monash Med, for about 300 places.
Just checked:
http://www.vtac.edu.au/appstats/appstats-ug-2009.html
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Oh yeah but i mean the general idea i was trying to get at stays the same
They keep the no° places artificially low for a number of reasons anyway so that explains that
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Journalism has a pretty high demand as well.
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Actually more like 2000 hopefuls for Monash Med, for about 300 places.
Just checked:
http://www.vtac.edu.au/appstats/appstats-ug-2009.html
omgg! getting into med is a harder chance than getting into a selective high school...
*faints*
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Actually more like 2000 hopefuls for Monash Med, for about 300 places.
Just checked:
http://www.vtac.edu.au/appstats/appstats-ug-2009.html
omgg! getting into med is a harder chance than getting into a selective high school...
*faints*
haha it's not that hard to get into a selective high school, especially in comparison to med.
and unsw med had 3500+ applicants for 200-300 places where the median ATAR was 99.60 - ridiculously competitive medicine is.
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:(
that means i have just about 0 chance.
biomed for me
or science (8
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:(
that means i have just about 0 chance.
biomed for me
or science (8
well clearly you still have chance.. just need a good umat !!!!
yay for science, (better than biomed!)
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:(
that means i have just about 0 chance.
biomed for me
or science (8
well clearly you still have chance.. just need a good umat !!!!
yay for science, (better than biomed!)
Isn't Biomed advantageous for those who're doing the GAMSAT later?
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:(
that means i have just about 0 chance.
biomed for me
or science (8
well clearly you still have chance.. just need a good umat !!!!
yay for science, (better than biomed!)
Isn't Biomed advantageous for those who're doing the GAMSAT later?
There is no advantage doing biomed over science if you do in science first year chem&bio, and then some physics (either uni or private study year 12 course)
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:(
that means i have just about 0 chance.
biomed for me
or science (8
well clearly you still have chance.. just need a good umat !!!!
yay for science, (better than biomed!)
Isn't Biomed advantageous for those who're doing the GAMSAT later?
There is no advantage doing biomed over science if you do in science first year chem&bio, and then some physics (either uni or private study year 12 course)
I reckon science would be even better... more freedom and u get to do that physics for the gamsat during first year... ur subjects in year 1 would be chem bio physics + breadth. and bio is very similiar to year 12 course.
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I reckon science would be even better... more freedom and u get to do that physics for the gamsat during first year... ur subjects in year 1 would be chem bio physics + breadth. and bio is very similiar to year 12 course.
This is the first year biomed syllabus (+ calc and stats).
But yeah, there is really no difference between them.
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I reckon science would be even better... more freedom and u get to do that physics for the gamsat during first year... ur subjects in year 1 would be chem bio physics + breadth. and bio is very similiar to year 12 course.
This is the first year biomed syllabus (+ calc and stats).
But yeah, there is really no difference between them.
but the physics for biomedicine subject if trying to relate to science requires the full year of physics (as life physics or whatever its called requires the first semester of physics)
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Eh? It's standalone, you do it if you didn't do high school physics. If you did then you do the other one, it's only 1 semester either way.
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if you get 99+ as and ATAR wouldnt you be clearly in and not need to do a GAMSAT for melb?
if i got 99+ i think id pick science at melbourne cause you're guarenteed in med anyways and if you change your mind that you dont want to do med anymore within the 3 yrs, science offers a lot more other choices for graduate courses.
and doesnt doing MD at melbourne sound way better than ding MBBS at monash, even if it's a 2 yr diffrence? and its right next to royal melbourne hospital which in my opinion is better than monash hospital X]
...and good city location.
But if i got under 99 and above say 97 then i would choice biomed cause it sounds more medical :) than science.
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Eh? It's standalone, you do it if you didn't do high school physics. If you did then you do the other one, it's only 1 semester either way.
oh sorry i meant the science version requires 1 year as it requires the first unit to do life physics (or whatever its called).
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Jeesh, seeing things like this makes me doubt if I'll ever do medicine :'( such a hard decision to think about what stuff you're interested in :F
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if you get 99+ as and ATAR wouldnt you be clearly in and not need to do a GAMSAT for melb?
If you want a full fee place, yes. If you want a CSP place, sit the GAMSAT.
and doesnt doing MD at melbourne sound way better than ding MBBS at monash, even if it's a 2 yr diffrence? and its right next to royal melbourne hospital which in my opinion is better than monash hospital X]
...and good city location.
Oh god, don't pick based on MD vs. MBBS, there's pretty much no difference in accreditation. But yeah, there are half a dozen hospitals right around UoM...I was at a clinic at RCH and the guy said "yeah we get all the melbourne students through here on rotations". But either way there's a guaranteed internship, which is your goal.
Although now that I think about it, I was reading some stuff on AMSA about the guarantee no longer existing :S
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if you get 99+ as and ATAR wouldnt you be clearly in and not need to do a GAMSAT for melb?
if i got 99+ i think id pick science at melbourne cause you're guarenteed in med anyways and if you change your mind that you dont want to do med anymore within the 3 yrs, science offers a lot more other choices for graduate courses.
and doesnt doing MD at melbourne sound way better than ding MBBS at monash, even if it's a 2 yr diffrence? and its right next to royal melbourne hospital which in my opinion is better than monash hospital X]
...and good city location.
But if i got under 99 and above say 97 then i would choice biomed cause it sounds more medical :) than science.
Yeh, the MD/MBBS distinction won't make much of a difference. They just took the American title really. As for the hospitals, Monash does have Monash Medical Centre nearby which is still a good hospital, but they've also got the Alfred which is universally recognised the best teaching hospital in Victoria, as well as Cabrini which is a private hospital. While UoM has a wide range of quality hospitals (Royal Melbourne, Royal Children's, Royal Women's, St. Vincents, Austin etc.), I guess Monash has less quantity, but higher quality. Monash is also better if you would prefer having a suburban hospital (Box Hill, Dandenong, Moorabin etc.) rather than needing to trek to the city every single day.
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ohhhhh.
yea i reckon people doing MBBS are smarter than those who will do MD.
But i just think the ones who went melb will come out and get better jobs still?
i dunno, just my opinion. i dont know much about this stuff.
bleh med looks too hard anyways, im gonna be a biomedical engineer :)))
oh! but after doing work experience at a hospital...surgery looks like an awesome job...
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yea i reckon people doing MBBS are smarter than those who will do MD.
How on earth did you jump to this conclusion..?
But i just think the ones who went melb will come out and get better jobs still?
Potentially, but it won't be based on the fact that they come from Melbourne. University discrimination isn't as prevalent in medicine as it is in, say, engineering. Also, ugh surgery, could never do that :S
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yea i reckon people doing MBBS are smarter than those who will do MD.
How on earth did you jump to this conclusion..?
But i just think the ones who went melb will come out and get better jobs still?
Potentially, but it won't be based on the fact that they come from Melbourne. University discrimination isn't as prevalent in medicine as it is in, say, engineering. Also, ugh surgery, could never do that :S
UHH cause most smart people who wanna do med sit the UMAT? ionno XD
why never surgery? :O
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Chemistry or English is definately the most competitive
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i think they mean which uni course is the most competitive ^ :P
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UHH cause most smart people who wanna do med sit the UMAT? ionno XD
why never surgery? :O
Ugh not really. But not derailing much further.
Couldn't do surgery as a speciality, that would just destroy me. Wouldn't mind doing surgical rotations obviously, but I could never do it forever. I just don't particularly like working with the insides of the human body.
Endocrinology I could do though :)
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UHH cause most smart people who wanna do med sit the UMAT? ionno XD
why never surgery? :O
Ugh not really. But not derailing much further.
Couldn't do surgery as a speciality, that would just destroy me. Wouldn't mind doing surgical rotations obviously, but I could never do it forever. I just don't particularly like working with the insides of the human body.
Endocrinology I could do though :)
are you in uni already?
O:
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yes, at UoM (hence why I know about the research stuff there)
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yes, at UoM (hence why I know about the research stuff there)
wat undergraduate? X]
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Yeah ugrad; biomedicine.
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Yeah ugrad; biomedicine.
ohhhhhh. is biomed fun?
wat did ya get for your ENTER XD
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He got around 40-45 for each SS i assume. He tutors at the UoM summer school thing, he knows his stuff :D