ATAR Notes: Forum
Uni Stuff => Faculties => Law => Topic started by: joocoobpootooloo on June 15, 2010, 07:59:08 pm
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hey guys,
i'm just curious regarding what you think the clearly-in ATAR for monash arts law is going to be for 2011? In past years its been in the low 99 range it seems, but for 2009 and 2010 it went down to lowish 98.xx Is it likely to stay in the 98-98.5 range or jump back up to 99 for next year?
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umm... Law and Arts are both getting competitive.... and it's realy going to be harder to get into especially at Monash. However you can do Arts at Melbourne the clearly in for Arts at Melbourne is 89.00 which I'm planning on doing, then after you're three years bachelor degree transfer straight to Melbourne JD (juris Doctor) which is a internationally recognised Law post-graduate degree, which would take another 3 years.. Then you're finished! :D
Now join me.... :P
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I was under the impression Arts/Law dropped due to the abolishment of Full Fee places..? I'm not sure though.
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at which uni? Monash.... I think so. I don't know about melbourne though!
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i thought about going to melbourne and trying my luck with the JD, but if you dont get into the JD you've kinda run out of options...
I was under the impression Arts/Law dropped due to the abolishment of Full Fee places..? I'm not sure though.
Wow they completely abolished full fee places? :S
that does explain why it dropped by a fair bit then..
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well.... LOOK! you can do a normal arts degree at any university! then take the LSAT.... from there you can transfer to Melbourne Jd without no barriers, or alternativley you can go deakin and do aw there, then do the Deakin law schools admissions test and then transfer to Melbourne! :)
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but the fact is if you dont get into the JD you're pretty much stuffed... i reckon i could pull a 98-98.5, but 99 seems wayy out of reach
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then take the LSAT.... from there you can transfer to Melbourne Jd without no barriers
is the LSAT not a barrier lol.
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well.... LOOK! you can do a normal arts degree at any university! then take the LSAT.... from there you can transfer to Melbourne Jd without no barriers, or alternativley you can go deakin and do aw there, then do the Deakin law schools admissions test and then transfer to Melbourne! :)
Picking on the technicalities, it's not really a transfer, it's a graduate course. You have to complete your Bachelor degree first.
but the fact is if you dont get into the JD you're pretty much stuffed... i reckon i could pull a 98-98.5, but 99 seems wayy out of reach
You could always apply to another university/another course.
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but the fact is if you dont get into the JD you're pretty much stuffed... i reckon i could pull a 98-98.5, but 99 seems wayy out of reach
there are other graduate law programs eg. La Trobe, Monash
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No! some uni's don't actually look at you're LSAT mark..... it's just there as one of the requirements as a formality!
dude good stuff 98.5 wow..... you could easily get into Law at ANU with a scholarship man..... or just do arts at melb.. kill it in you're first/second year then do the Lsat( who cares if you don't do good in it) in the end you're marks from 1 and 2nd year of Arts is what matters. ;)
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does the monash JD have CSP places?
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No! some uni's don't actually look at you're LSAT mark..... it's just there as one of the requirements as a formality!
Source? :|
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il just cross my fingers and hope for the best i think... i cant do anything about it either way :)
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don't worry.... you'll make it hopefully! :)
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Wow they completely abolished full fee places? :S
that does explain why it dropped by a fair bit then..
They abolished full fee places for local students a while ago, I think. If you are a local student, the only way to get into university is by doing a Commonwealth supported place (CSP). These courses are denoted by VTAC with a "1" at the end of the course code. If you are an international student, you can only do a tertiary course with a "3" at the end of the course code, which means a full fee international place.
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wowser bowser
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To answer the OP's question: last years score is the best indication anyone has. Unless demand goes up considerably this year, it should be around the same.
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To answer the OP's question: last years score is the best indication anyone has. Unless demand goes up considerably this year, it should be around the same.
Or if you're really lucky and demand falls, the clearly-in ATAR will drop. :) Otherwise, yes, it will be around the same.
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Can someone explain this to me? Is it a CSP harder to get?
Edit: Am I right to understand that no international students = lower ATAR and that the conclusion of this topic is that the ATAR req wont change much from 98.2 for Arts/Law?
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Can someone explain this to me? Is it a CSP harder to get?
Edit: Am I right to understand that no international students = lower ATAR and that the conclusion of this topic is that the ATAR req wont change much from 98.2 for Arts/Law?
CSPs are not hard to get. In fact, there are requirements to get into a CSP. If you are:
- an Australian citizen
- an Australian permanent resident
- or a New Zealand citizen
then you are entitled to a CSP. Also, if you are Australian you are only allowed to apply for CSP if you intend to go to uni. You cannot apply for the international places.
No international students doesn't mean lower Clearly-In ATAR. See this topic for more details of the Clearly-In ATAR. Although that post is more focused on engineering at RMIT, you can also apply it to Arts/Law.