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VCE Stuff => VCE English Studies => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE English & EAL => Topic started by: 98.40_for_sure on July 09, 2010, 02:20:01 pm
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lets say...
GA1: high A
GA2: high A
GA3: high B+ to low A
and also if i do worse in the exam than i do in school sacs... im guessing they adjust my GA1 and GA2 accordingly?
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eng is defs the subject that i have least expetise in, but i reackon ur looking at about .....35?
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pretty tight how its hard as to get high ss in english, even though 30 is the "average"...
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yup....it's a biatch :( PLUS it scales down....W.....T.....F..... :(
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maybe i should have done english language, i heard its more interesting and better for 'scientifically minded' students
and plus its scaled up?!
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yea, i get told that heps too, but meh, i'm stuck with eng now :( can;t do anything bout it except work my ass of for eng....LOL sif THATS going to happen :P
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LoL essays no thx... these holidays probs spent like 1/50 of my time on eng haha poor english gets no attention
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LOL
ok, eng has gotten up till today...about....20mins worth of work????
and today.....i probs got another 20 mins done.....that's right....i should get a medal or something for this :P
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yea, i get told that heps too, but meh, i'm stuck with eng now :( can;t do anything bout it except work my ass of for eng....LOL sif THATS going to happen :P
What made you choose english over english language? I'm not sure which to do... :(
I might as well try both next year and see what happens!
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i just never really concidered it tbh....i think shoudl've put a bit more thouhg into it tho now in hindsight.....
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lol, we watched 'witness'... so im reading up on what its about haha was sleeping while it was playing in class. gotta write a context essay with reference to it tonight!
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yea, i get told that heps too, but meh, i'm stuck with eng now :( can;t do anything bout it except work my ass of for eng....LOL sif THATS going to happen :P
What made you choose english over english language? I'm not sure which to do... :(
I might as well try both next year and see what happens!
lol they said eng lang is not easier, so only good english students should pick it... that wasnt me. stupid idiot that said that, woulda done better in it
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lol they said eng lang is not easier, so only good english students should pick it... that wasnt me. stupid idiot that said that, woulda done better in it
I heard that englang was a "scientific take" on english - interesting... but english is for people who enjoy both eng and science, so that might suit me too. As a result, I have no idea which to do.
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lol they said eng lang is not easier, so only good english students should pick it... that wasnt me. stupid idiot that said that, woulda done better in it
I heard that englang was a "scientific take" on english - interesting... but english is for people who enjoy both eng and science, so that might suit me too. As a result, I have no idea which to do.
from your signature, it seems like you've given your future a lot of thought already lol
good on ya, ive only started thinking about my future halfway through year 12 and im stuck with these subjects
so yeah, im a maths/sciencey guy and i HATE english... as do most other people that don't like writing long essays etc
if thats for you then go for english
ive never done EL but yeah if you want to try both out, you're gonna be giving up another subject you could be doing
good luck
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I envy younger ones that actually think about their future :(.
I know at the start of year 10 I was all "I am never ever gonna do physics or chem" or "Why do advanced maths, I won't do spesh pffft".
And now I really really regret not doing spesh, and it turns out I love science and maths.
I'm gonna set out on a mission to educate younger students about how important it is to make careful and well-thought decisions about their VCE...As long as they pay me.
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from your signature, it seems like you've given your future a lot of thought already lol
good on ya, ive only started thinking about my future halfway through year 12 and im stuck with these subjects
so yeah, im a maths/sciencey guy and i HATE english... as do most other people that don't like writing long essays etc
if thats for you then go for english
ive never done EL but yeah if you want to try both out, you're gonna be giving up another subject you could be doing
good luck
I don't know - I'm more a maths/sciency person than english but I'm also pretty good at english and I love it to! This is why it's so hard for me to choose subjects, there's too many I could do. Lol yeah I've got all my tertiary courses sorted out (depending on whether I want to be a solicitor or actuary) but as for VCE, I've almost got subjects sorted out bar the english/EL and I am still unsure whether to do 1 or 2 3/4s next year. I have methods, biology and chinese 1/2 as well as religion and society (but let's not worry about that). I'm definitely doing methods next year... quite standard at my school; but not sure about biology and chinese. Ahh I hate subject selection!!!
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I'm gonna set out on a mission to educate younger students about how important it is to make careful and well-thought decisions about their VCE...As long as they pay me.
I'm willing to do it for free :P
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I envy younger ones that actually think about their future :(.
I know at the start of year 10 I was all "I am never ever gonna do physics or chem" or "Why do advanced maths, I won't do spesh pffft".
And now I really really regret not doing spesh, and it turns out I love science and maths.
I'm gonna set out on a mission to educate younger students about how important it is to make careful and well-thought decisions about their VCE...As long as they pay me.
LOL thats like saying "i like sandwiches... and women make sandwiches, therefore i like women" its illogical!
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I don't know - I'm more a maths/sciency person than english but I'm also pretty good at english and I love it to! This is why it's so hard for me to choose subjects, there's too many I could do. Lol yeah I've got all my tertiary courses sorted out (depending on whether I want to be a solicitor or actuary) but as for VCE, I've almost got subjects sorted out bar the english/EL and I am still unsure whether to do 1 or 2 3/4s next year. I have methods, biology and chinese 1/2 as well as religion and society (but let's not worry about that). I'm definitely doing methods next year... quite standard at my school; but not sure about biology and chinese. Ahh I hate subject selection!!!
I think you and cheryl think too much . Granted, i wanted to try to do heaps of things when I was in year 10, like I dreamt of economics and english language and revolutions and whatever,
but deep down there are subjects you prioritise in your heart and you're gunna pick those over other ones alright. and if u want to do all of them, then dont fret about the workload and accept the consequences.
:)
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Yeah, definitely doing a max of 6 subjects + UMEP:
So most likely:
- English Language
- Physics
- Chem
- Chinese SL
- Maths Methods
- Specialist Maths
- UMEP Maths
But I'm not 100% sure... I could go on with biology next year, for instance, and drop one of chem/phys. Lol I suck at subject selection. :P
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Yeah, definitely doing a max of 6 subjects + UMEP:
So most likely:
- English Language
- Physics
- Chem
- Chinese SL
- Maths Methods
- Specialist Maths
- UMEP Maths
But I'm not 100% sure... I could go on with biology next year, for instance, and drop one of chem/phys. Lol I suck at subject selection. :P
a lot more courses req chem and physics than biology
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a lot more courses req chem and physics than biology
For me course prerequisites aren't a problem - as I am only seriously considering commerce and law degrees, I only need like maths methods and an english as a prereq; I never wanted to do medicine etc.
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You might change your mind :P
you could get into any course you want
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if u love em all equally then pick the one with higher scaling- its the only time you should consider scaling. Thus, bio is cancelled out.
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if u love em all equally then pick the one with higher scaling- its the only time you should consider scaling. Thus, bio is cancelled out.
Then the above configuration gives the maximal scaling (biology is ~+1, phys is ~+2). Figures are approximate.
- English Language (+2)
- Physics (+2)
- Chem (+3 or 4)
- Chinese SL (+ 9)
- Maths Methods (+4)
- Specialist Maths (+6)
- UMEP Maths
Hmm. Pretty decent scaling :D
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Then the above configuration gives the maximal scaling (biology is ~+1, phys is ~+2). Figures are approximate.
- English Language (+2)
- Physics (+2)
- Chem (+3 or 4)
- Chinese SL (+ 9)
- Maths Methods (+4)
- Specialist Maths (+6)
- UMEP Maths
Hmm. Pretty decent scaling :D
Im guessing you're approxing high 40's for all your subjects so that must be why your scaling is so little :P
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is this with 40 + raw scores lol
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Im guessing you're approxing high 40's for all your subjects so that must be why your scaling is so little :P
Yep lol :)
Scaling is still decent, though less than before for my subjects. I guess I'll just have to try harder to compromise. :D
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Lol must be like real close to 50, cos physics doesn't go +2 anywhere else
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Lol must be like real close to 50, cos physics doesn't go +2 anywhere else
http://www.vtac.edu.au/pdf/scaling_report.pdf
I calculated most from 45, not 50... lol if 50 then +0 is quite crappy scaling :P
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Your school lets you do UMEP Maths along with another 5 subjects? That's a pretty big load with those subjects
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Well, my school makes us do 5 subjects in year 12 and UMEP is after school so that fits in fine. Of course, they prefer 4 + UMEP but 5 is fine if you can handle it. I might move one of the subjects to year 11 (ie. Chinese) or do biology next year. I'm so bad at VCE subject selection... tertiary course selection is so much easier lol
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Hahah i'm doing 4 subjects now, just dropped IT: Software development
And finding it hard to manage time, probably because i spend 10 hours a day reading about uni courses and banging my head over what i wanna do
You did that already, lucky you haha
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Well, my school makes us do 5 subjects in year 12 and UMEP is after school so that fits in fine. Of course, they prefer 4 + UMEP but 5 is fine if you can handle it. I might move one of the subjects to year 11 (ie. Chinese) or do biology next year. I'm so bad at VCE subject selection... tertiary course selection is so much easier lol
ummm sif ur school make you do five subjects?? lol at me getting awa with three real ones :P
yea, srsly, move one to year 11, only doing emthods isn;t gonna make ur method score any better
lol, sif tertiary course selection is any easier??? I would argue it's MUCH harder cos you have to take a definite step into what you wanna do, whereas VCE you can do science subjects, history subjects and politics subjects all at the same time without commiting to any particualar line...
having said that you have a *shite* load of time to decide lol
Hahah i'm doing 4 subjects now, just dropped IT: Software development
And finding it hard to manage time, probably because i spend 10 hours a day reading about uni courses and banging my head over what i wanna do
You did that already, lucky you haha
LOL....yup i totes spent a LOT of time wasting it away on sites like vn/fb lol and get my ass kicked by ppl doing 6 3/4s...w....t....f.....
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Hahahah, yeah sit there on fb not doing anything
At least on VN its 'educational'
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*blinks* You're... azure?
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What are you talking about? Stop talking chinese!
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yea, srsly, move one to year 11, only doing emthods isn;t gonna make ur method score any better
Lol believe it or not, there is actually an advantage to doing 1 in year 11 and 6 in year 12.
Inevitably, I concede that year 12 will be indeed hard. However, doing 1 in year 11 means that you have the time to actually work at your 1/2s which provide a very solid foundation for those subjects in year 12. This means that those subjects in year 12 won't be such a struggle because you're very familiar with the concepts etc. In addition to this, your accelerated subject kind of acts as a trial for your VCE 3/4s - in year 12, you'll be more experienced with time management and more used to all these SACs and stuff...
I also think, as a progressive subject (as all languages can be built upon through years of practice) I would get a better study score doing it in year 12, but preparing most of the materials in year 11 as general convo/detailed study etc... take a long time.
An exception to this is if you're going to compete at one of the international science olympiads in year 12, I would strongly advise to accelerate around 2-3 subjects. I can't imagine how hard it would be to do so much...
I recall half a year ago, I was intending to do three 3/4s next year. I was actually very obstinate to change this, but after consulting around 300 people lol, I was convinced that that was actually a bad idea. So all in all, I'm against acceleration of too many subjects. And yes, there exist people who have gotten perfect VCE scores with 6 subjects in year 12.
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Azure: You've always been indecisive over Phys/Bio but why not Chem? :D (I was so annoyed whether to do Bio or Phys because Phys helps more with Spesh (and vice versa) but not with Bio but in the end, I took neither :P)
Maybe you could do Phys and Bio if that solves your problem hahah!
Yeah, that could. I am actually also indecisive about chem. Maybe I'm just indecisive in general. As a principle, I shall pick two subjects out of bio/phys/chem. (Chem has great scaling though! lol and it's a pretty good subject too)
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Chem is advisable to take because it's often a pre-req subj but I'll just do it because I like it more than Bio/Phys. That's about it.
And all this talk about scaling again. Maybe I'll stop learning music in Year 12 since it's so tough to get high 40's for music and not do VCE Music at all. >< (Though yes I guess it's my interest but if I don't do well, it'll probably be my 6th/7th subject and it's practices are time consuming.) IIRC, < 20 people got >45 for Music last year.)
That's just because not many people take music - the proportions are still the same. Though yes, it does make the subject less 'solid' in terms of study scores, but shouldn't bring about too much of a disadvantage. All this talk about scaling, but bottom line is, do what you like. If you do something just for the scaling, and hate it, then you're going to do bad... If you love it, and it scales, then double bonus :) Which reminds me, I have to start enjoying learning chinese. Wonder how that's going to happen. ;) Though it will help me in my career knowing another language...
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tl;dr
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edit: actually read it 35-38
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yea, srsly, move one to year 11, only doing emthods isn;t gonna make ur method score any better
And yes, there exist people who have gotten perfect VCE scores with 6 subjects in year 12.
Actually, no. Derrick Ha and James Lu both got a high 40s for a subject (Derrick Ha- i think it was English, James Lu- Literature).
So I don't know who you're talking about lol.
And you don't need 6 50s to be godly. Getting 45+s is good enough for the real world
=].
Ac
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^ Hahah yeah, and then the next question would be, to do 1 or 2 music subjects? And if so, which one? :P
Would just like to mention that m@tty is doing 8 subjects by the way :) (check out his cool sig)
VCE Music Performance. Probably because I have no idea what VCE Music Styles is and I know no one that has done it... but then again, that's not a very substantiated reason is it? Just do some research of both and ask some people who have done it and choose the one you think you'll enjoy better and be better at.
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yea, srsly, move one to year 11, only doing emthods isn;t gonna make ur method score any better
And yes, there exist people who have gotten perfect VCE scores with 6 subjects in year 12.
Actually, no. Derrick Ha and James Lu both got a high 40s for a subject (Derrick Ha- i think it was English, James Lu- Literature).
Ac
Sorry, let me rephrase that perfect VCE score = 99.95; apologies for the confusion.
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I'm ranked first in my year for English, and have lost eight marks total in Unit 3; do I still have a chance for a 50?
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ur effing kidding me right? of course you still have a chance. And if ur in a strong cohort, you can probs afford to drop a few more. Last year in my school there was a person who dropped 16 marks on sacs and still got a 50. Granted we do a have a reasonably strong cohort.
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yea, srsly, move one to year 11, only doing emthods isn;t gonna make ur method score any better
And yes, there exist people who have gotten perfect VCE scores with 6 subjects in year 12.
Actually, no. Derrick Ha and James Lu both got a high 40s for a subject (Derrick Ha- i think it was English, James Lu- Literature).
So I don't know who you're talking about lol.
And you don't need 6 50s to be godly. Getting 45+s is good enough for the real world
=].
Ac
http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Mondayitis-Nothing-of-the-sort/2004/12/13/1102787018738.html
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yea, srsly, move one to year 11, only doing emthods isn;t gonna make ur method score any better
And yes, there exist people who have gotten perfect VCE scores with 6 subjects in year 12.
Actually, no. Derrick Ha and James Lu both got a high 40s for a subject (Derrick Ha- i think it was English, James Lu- Literature).
So I don't know who you're talking about lol.
And you don't need 6 50s to be godly. Getting 45+s is good enough for the real world
=].
Ac
http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Mondayitis-Nothing-of-the-sort/2004/12/13/1102787018738.html
lol I remember reading that article in year 7. gg
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It doesn't say he did 6 subjects? unless I read it wrong.
lol and M@tty is doing 6 this year, he did two last year.
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Sandeep Arunothayaraj
Successful MedEntry Student and MedEntry Excellence Prize Winner
I managed to get 296 out of 300 in my UMAT. Section A 100, Section B 98, Section C 98.
I must say that the MedEntry workshop was a great help in preparing for the UMAT. It was really beneficial to familiarise yourself with the types of questions on the UMAT, and work out a method to tackle the questions you find the toughest. The workshop helped in this aspect immensely. The feedback from the practice test done in the workshop is also really useful, as it accurately determines what you need to work on.
The practice exams were an excellent indication of the types of questions on the actual UMAT and ensured that there were very few surprises. I found that they were slightly harder than the real UMAT, which really helps provide confidence when you're reading the questions in the exam hall. Being slightly harder, the practice exams also allow you to work out the right time management strategy, which is essential. This results in a candidate being able to finish all the questions in the real UMAT, which is a huge bonus.
MedEntry is an absolute help!
[Sandeep is now studying medicine at Melbourne University with the help of a National Medical Scholarship. In addition to his outstanding UMAT score, he obtained a perfect ENTER score as well as perfect scores in all six of his year 12 subjects]
http://www.medentry.edu.au/endorsements_scholarship.asp
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These perfect score guys need to give me a tiny portion of their brain... it would be enough :P
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Sandeep Arunothayaraj
Successful MedEntry Student and MedEntry Excellence Prize Winner
I managed to get 296 out of 300 in my UMAT. Section A 100, Section B 98, Section C 98.
I must say that the MedEntry workshop was a great help in preparing for the UMAT. It was really beneficial to familiarise yourself with the types of questions on the UMAT, and work out a method to tackle the questions you find the toughest. The workshop helped in this aspect immensely. The feedback from the practice test done in the workshop is also really useful, as it accurately determines what you need to work on.
The practice exams were an excellent indication of the types of questions on the actual UMAT and ensured that there were very few surprises. I found that they were slightly harder than the real UMAT, which really helps provide confidence when you're reading the questions in the exam hall. Being slightly harder, the practice exams also allow you to work out the right time management strategy, which is essential. This results in a candidate being able to finish all the questions in the real UMAT, which is a huge bonus.
MedEntry is an absolute help!
[Sandeep is now studying medicine at Melbourne University with the help of a National Medical Scholarship. In addition to his outstanding UMAT score, he obtained a perfect ENTER score as well as perfect scores in all six of his year 12 subjects]
http://www.medentry.edu.au/endorsements_scholarship.asp
lol okay. At the age of 16 too O_O
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yea, srsly, move one to year 11, only doing emthods isn;t gonna make ur method score any better
And yes, there exist people who have gotten perfect VCE scores with 6 subjects in year 12.
Actually, no. Derrick Ha and James Lu both got a high 40s for a subject (Derrick Ha- i think it was English, James Lu- Literature).
So I don't know who you're talking about lol.
And you don't need 6 50s to be godly. Getting 45+s is good enough for the real world
=].
Ac
But neither of them actually did 6 subjects in year 12.
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But neither of them actually did 6 subjects in year 12.
Lol I didn't actually mean 6 perfect 50s in year 12. I meant 99.95s... but if you want to, feel free to carry on the discussion anyway.