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Title: Where do I stand?
Post by: EvangelionZeta on July 13, 2010, 11:41:37 pm
Just wondering about how screwed I am.

Basically, at this stage, I've been doing most of the textbook (minus the yellow pages) up until chapter 8.  The class is finishing chapter 9 by the end of this week, or thereabouts.  I haven't done any of the blue pages either, nor touched Checkpoints.

Assuming I catch up (which should be okish, hopefully) but still don't do the yellow pages/blue pages (or Checkpoints), and instead jump into doing lots and lots of exam papers once the course is finished, will I stand in good stead still for the end of the year? 
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Martoman on July 13, 2010, 11:55:54 pm
Yellow pages = waste of time.

You are fine. Chapter 9 = chapter 8 with some bite.

I am in your boat atm.
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Mao on July 14, 2010, 02:28:40 am
Just wondering about how screwed I am.

Basically, at this stage, I've been doing most of the textbook (minus the yellow pages) up until chapter 8.  The class is finishing chapter 9 by the end of this week, or thereabouts.  I haven't done any of the blue pages either, nor touched Checkpoints.

Assuming I catch up (which should be okish, hopefully) but still don't do the yellow pages/blue pages (or Checkpoints), and instead jump into doing lots and lots of exam papers once the course is finished, will I stand in good stead still for the end of the year? 

You are doing more than I did. [I did about half of the 'interesting' problems, and spent my time sitting on my arse organising my itunes library.]

It's not about how much, it's about the quality of understanding, only you can judge whether mindless practice is going to be useful or not.
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Martoman on July 14, 2010, 07:51:59 am
LAWL Mao I do a similar thing with computer games
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: tram on July 14, 2010, 02:04:07 pm
lol, i ceebes doing the yellow pages, unless my teacher specifaclly directs me to them. I strted doing the yellow pages at the start of the year, last year for methods, but then jsut like got lazy if thet's any indication....

but yea, just do the exam papers and you'll be fine :)
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: fady_22 on July 14, 2010, 02:56:44 pm
I do more of the yellow pages than the actual exercises (especially the extended response).

The exercises just test basic knowledge. It would probably be better to do chapter reviews (especially extended response) instead of doing heaps of exercises.
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: EvangelionZeta on July 14, 2010, 03:46:54 pm
Thanks guys - feeling more confident now.  =)
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on July 14, 2010, 05:14:35 pm
Is this for essentials book? if yes... your schools only up to ch 9? isnt that a bit slow considering theres only like 1 term left and the course should be completed at least half way - 3/4 through
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Stroodle on July 14, 2010, 07:40:22 pm
My school's also only up to differential equations...
I worked ahead in the holidays so I'll have more time for practice exams.
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: tram on July 14, 2010, 07:44:02 pm
my school is just about to finished chap 9....i think that's pretty standard....what chapter are you guys up to?

i mean all that's left is mechanics and dynamics....
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: TrueTears on July 14, 2010, 07:45:44 pm
most of my students' schools have finished up to chapter 8-9 thereabouts.
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Yitzi_K on July 14, 2010, 07:47:36 pm
We're up to chapter 13, on dynamics.

Should be finished the entire course in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: samuch on July 14, 2010, 07:49:48 pm
yeah were up to the end of chap 9 as well .... im up to 9A :P so yeah im behind too lol
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: tram on July 14, 2010, 07:50:54 pm
99.95, where are you up to?

yitzi-wow....that's quite far ahead how do you need a few weeks to finishd the course then??

samuch-don't think ur behind, just at a normal speed
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Yitzi_K on July 14, 2010, 07:53:53 pm
tram, our teacher pushes us really hard, plus we did most of the year 12 course in year 11, so most of it was just revision this year.

And it'll take a few weeks to finish the course because we've got a couple of SACs soon which are going to take up some time.
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: tram on July 14, 2010, 07:54:59 pm
kk, fair enough
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: m@tty on July 14, 2010, 08:31:27 pm
Don't worry, EvangelionZeta, I do waaay less work than you. I agree entirely with Mao; it is not the labour, but your understanding that is important.
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on July 14, 2010, 09:49:18 pm
I worked ahead on the holidays so im up to ch 13 now
my schools doing ch 10 i think, but rushing hard... so everyones gonna be like O_O
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Martoman on July 14, 2010, 10:00:28 pm
Don't worry, EvangelionZeta, I do waaay less work than you. I agree entirely with Mao; it is not the labour, but your understanding that is important.

LAWL Mao I do a similar thing with computer games

OP do realise that Mao, M@tty and I do NOT represent a good cross section of math students. In ANY way shape or form  :smitten:
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: tram on July 14, 2010, 10:05:41 pm
crap.....shoud've reli work ahead..... :( ah well....grrrrr hate physics :(

and lol matoman
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: EvangelionZeta on July 15, 2010, 07:34:11 pm
I think someone asked (can't remember who...), but for the curious we're meant to have started chapter 10 and I'm on 9B...
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on July 15, 2010, 07:39:38 pm
Ok so umm... my class just did chapter 10 & 12 in 2 lessons lol and a sac on them next week
She just picked out like 2 questions from each exercise and told us to do them
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: tram on July 15, 2010, 08:43:47 pm
wow....that fast......hmmmm that's actually insane.....is it? or is it reli that easy??....(again physics is not my forte)
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: superflya on July 15, 2010, 08:48:28 pm
lol no dont think its easy enough to do 2 chapters in 2 lessons -.-
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Martoman on July 15, 2010, 08:48:54 pm
10 is year 10 physics. 12 is just vectors all over again?
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on July 15, 2010, 08:51:46 pm
lol no dont think its easy enough to do 2 chapters in 2 lessons -.-

Yeah definetely not easy enough to do in 2 lessons... explains why everyone who didn't work ahead on the holidays are lost
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Martoman on July 15, 2010, 08:55:22 pm
On a somewhat related note, I haven't opened my further book all year  :P
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Yitzi_K on July 15, 2010, 10:03:08 pm
Just wondering, what's the range of raw scores I'd be looking at if I got somewhere between 3 high As and 3 low A+s?
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Martoman on July 15, 2010, 10:18:12 pm
To actually answer the OP......

A little to the left.  ::)
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: m@tty on July 15, 2010, 10:53:39 pm
Just wondering, what's the range of raw scores I'd be looking at if I got somewhere between 3 high As and 3 low A+s?

Probably between ~36-42 depending on your ranking and cohort (Assuming you had a raw SAC grade, rather than moderated) ..
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Yitzi_K on July 15, 2010, 11:26:44 pm
Just wondering, what's the range of raw scores I'd be looking at if I got somewhere between 3 high As and 3 low A+s?

Probably between ~36-42 depending on your ranking and cohort (Assuming you had a raw SAC grade, rather than moderated) ..

Thanks. My cohort only has 3 people in it though, so does that make ranking more or less important?
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: tram on July 16, 2010, 05:25:05 pm
On a somewhat related note, I haven't opened my further book all year  :P

out of intrest, y are you doing further?

Just wondering, what's the range of raw scores I'd be looking at if I got somewhere between 3 high As and 3 low A+s?

Probably between ~36-42 depending on your ranking and cohort (Assuming you had a raw SAC grade, rather than moderated) ..

Thanks. My cohort only has 3 people in it though, so does that make ranking more or less important?

much much much lower, it's basiclaly all on how YOU do on ur exam if there's that few ppl.....
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Martoman on July 16, 2010, 05:39:21 pm
On a somewhat related note, I haven't opened my further book all year  :P

out of intrest, y are you doing further?

Just wondering, what's the range of raw scores I'd be looking at if I got somewhere between 3 high As and 3 low A+s?



Probably between ~36-42 depending on your ranking and cohort (Assuming you had a raw SAC grade, rather than moderated) ..

Thanks. My cohort only has 3 people in it though, so does that make ranking more or less important?

much much much lower, it's basiclaly all on how YOU do on ur exam if there's that few ppl.....


School says: "  :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: YOU HAVE TO DO ANOTHER SUBJECT  :tickedoff: :tickedoff:"
I say: " Ok. Further thanks."
"But thats a year 12 sub?!?!?!  :police: ->  :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:"/me *SIGH*

Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: tram on July 16, 2010, 06:15:10 pm
lol, love the explanation martoman :)
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Mao on July 16, 2010, 08:16:55 pm
Wait, @martoman, if you want to start uni next year [not impossible], where is English?

If not, I'm going to assume you'll want to do a uni extension program with melbourne or monash, sadly only 3 maths can count in your ENTER, so you are going to have to do extension chemistry?
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Martoman on July 16, 2010, 11:16:11 pm
*Cries*.

I'll only have to do 2. I think i'll be able to whinge sufficiently to get off the hook, otherwise, I'll threaten to take up VCAL. That will get the school sufficiently whipped into gear I'd think to show a more positive case to VCAA on behalf of me  :smitten:
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Mao on July 17, 2010, 03:42:23 am
*Cries*.

I'll only have to do 2. I think i'll be able to whinge sufficiently to get off the hook, otherwise, I'll threaten to take up VCAL. That will get the school sufficiently whipped into gear I'd think to show a more positive case to VCAA on behalf of me  :smitten:

Why? You can take a single English subject with Chisholm or another TAFE (CAE/Homesglen/Box Hill Institute, etc) and only enrol in one subject. Epic bludge [which means you *should* spend a lot of time writing essays and stuff]

For those who remember, the prodigious Jesse did that, though none of us have heard from her for a while now.
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Martoman on July 17, 2010, 01:03:02 pm
You also forget I am incredibly lazy so if I do that i won't be interested in the content at all.
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Yitzi_K on August 09, 2010, 06:39:30 pm
So we've now finished the course, on to practice exams we go...

Anyone else there or thereabouts?
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: m@tty on August 09, 2010, 06:51:27 pm
Yeah, almost finished mechanics.
Title: Re: Where do I stand?
Post by: Martoman on August 09, 2010, 06:57:02 pm
*starting* mechanics