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VCE Stuff => VCE Humanities => VCE Arts/Humanities/Health => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE History: Revolutions => Topic started by: scatteam_2 on July 26, 2010, 08:51:58 pm
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i did quite badly in the french revolution sacs
i scored an A, C and D
the A and C averaged out to a B but the D counted 12.5% of my whole study store
i was quite lazy and didnt study, however ive really applied myself for the second half of the year
is it still possible to get over 35 study score with these bad marks?
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i got the following marks for french:
Medium, High, High, High. Can i still get 35 over at the end of the year?
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EDIT: Ignore that comment. I thought it was French(LOTE) when I saw your comment, wow I spazzie92'd.
Though I still think you can, do well at the end of the year! :)
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you can definitely still get over 35,
i did history last year and i got VH, H, M, VH for my sacs, it was the exam that let me down because i didn't study enough
the exam is worth the most, so don't fret, ace the exam, and you've got over 35 in the bag :)
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So my sacs have been H H H so far... an estimation of how I'm going to do?
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So my sacs have been H H H so far... an estimation of how I'm going to do?
sac scores give no great indication of a potential score. depends on your cohort, ranking in that cohort and is most dependant on how well you do in the final exam.
I think you'd at least get a 35 with those though. from what my teacher said about last year you need rather high marks just to break the 40 mark.
anyways, you should just always be aiming for the highest possible mark and just see what you get at the end :)
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How high quality are 35 responses? I.e. do they include much evidence or historiography?
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How high quality are 35 responses? I.e. do they include much evidence or historiography?
i'd say they would have an average amount, a few quotes here and there, just enough to give your response some depth but not enough to make it complex
it's not too difficult to do average in history, it's just harder to do exceptionally well
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Would roughly 3-4 pieces of evidence and a historiographical quote for each 3-4 point answer do well?
Would an A on the exam secure 35+?
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depends on your sac marks, which overall are worth 50 per cent of the study score, so it's still important to have been doing well, ie averaging high's to secure 35 plus, however, doing averagely in sacs and getting an A should still get you in the low 30's range.
i'm assuming you mean 10 mark questions since, there are no 4 mark ones and for 6 marks, you predominantly draw evidence from the document you're analysing unless you can concisely bring in relevant quotes or evidence to support your answer.
For a ten marker, i think more than one historiography quote would be advisable, so long as its relevant and you're not just adding quotes for the sake of having quotes. But more than one would be best, since, if you've seen last years exam, specifically asks you to "refer to different views" of whatever it is you're evaluating.
3-4 pieces of evidence would be sufficient i think.
the most important thing to remember is read the question. all 10 markers will require some evidence and historiography but some will be looking for "views" and others will be looking for "evidence"
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I was talking about the 'using three or four points' questions, and I meant per point.
I end up using about 5 quotes for those doc questions.
About SAC marks - I'm averaging 70% which would get me an A on the exam, although one of these SACs I under-studied. The one I prepared for I got 75% for. I should also mention we're a hard-marking school (i.e. no-one gets these 98/100 SAC marks I hear people flaunting - highest ever was a 92.5%). In any case, isn't it rank that counts?
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ah i'm sorry! didn't get what you meant about the points, but yeah you sound like you're a confident student, particularly if you're doing that well in hard sacs and if your school is preparing you well with hard sacs, i wouldn't stress, sounds like 35 is very achievable for you.
My friends and i all got around 35 give or take a bit, and we go to an average catholic girls' school and did pretty well in our sacs, though occasionally there would be a disappointing sac, but both me and another girl didn't finish the exam and we still hit the 35 ss. in fact if i remember correctly i got a B on the exam, it was my sac marks that boosted me up
basically what i'm trying to say is just practice answering questions and timing yourself, study the course thoroughly, and you'll get over 40 because i barely did those things and got a decent score (i'm not one of those kids that is naturally smart either).
good luck!
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(i'm sorry if i wasn't helpful at all)
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No no you've been very helpful!
What I'd like to know is
a) How close did you come to finishing the exam?
b) How detailed were your responses?
I'm still unsure as to how hard a 35 is.
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a) i answered everything and finished my essay however, i couldn't answer one of the ten mark questions and i hadn't finished answering a few other questions, so when there was about 5 or so minutes left after i finished the essay, i rushed back and wrote pure waffle because i had already spent too much time struggling to come up with an answer. So i did write a bit for the question, but i only filled in about half of the lines and i have big writing, so needless to say, i probably only got about 3 marks out of ten, plus a few others that i hadn't finished answering properly. i think it was another ten mark question that i struggle with..
b) well, i can't really remember since i try my best to suppress the memory of me screwing up that exam but ummm i wouldn't say my responses were very in depth. i recall when practicing questions leading up the exam, i barely had any quotes, just ideas. i think detail wise, every answer i had had at least one quote and at least one piece of evidence but i mainly focused on events, leaders and movements because i blanked out and couldn't remember facts clearly and i didn't want to risk being wrong so i lacked a lot of evidence to back up my answers.
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I don't do history this year but...my mate got a+ in all sacs but she got to take in heaps of notes so she found it easy
fucked up the exam got a c+ and got a SS of 35 i think??
I don't know if that helps...x
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Wow so 35 doesn't look like such a long shot after all. I'll try my best. Thanks Sunny + Becc :)
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you're welcome! good luck ben92 :)
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So far, I received two B's for the Russian Revolution and an A for the Chinese Revolution.
Am I able to get a SS of 30 if I perform like that on the exam?
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ummm ok guys
would love if u answered my original question here!
i got A,C,D for french rev
and B for russian rev so far
can i still hit a 35?
if so, what do i need to do in the exam
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It would depend on how hard those SACs were and how hard your cohort is. Even then, SACs mean little. A 35 requires roughly 70% on the exam I think.