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Archived Discussion => 2010 => Mid-year exams => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Chemistry => Topic started by: Stroodle on August 02, 2010, 12:11:27 pm
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Post your results.
I got an A+.
I'm stoked ;D
Attached the grade distributions
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A+
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im yet to find out my results......so nervous!!!!
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A+
now the wait for the statement of marks!
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I get it tomorrow -,-
is there anyway to check online? edit: nope..
oh and also peoples post your predicted score if you can. I really want to get an idea of A+ cutoff!
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apparently its like 87%, heard it from a friend who heard it from a reliable source. but not 100% sure :|
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A, which was a tad dissapointing...
I heard that because there were a few people who got 100% they couldn't give A's to anyone under 90??
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A, im happy with that
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well done peoples btw !
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got an A. fairly happy
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I GOT AN A!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im so happy
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B+ fml -.-
ditto.......but i was expecting it. ok so whats the highest study score we could possibly get now?
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B+ fml -.-
+1
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^^ . remember your B+ can be like really high B+. like borderline A . I know an A just feels better but your B+ could be like 1 mark of an A.
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B+ fml -.-
ditto.......but i was expecting it. ok so whats the highest study score we could possibly get now?
well, we can still crack a low 40 with high A+ end of years and SAC's :P haha
That's true. One of my sister's friends got a B+ on the mid year for chem and got 40. So it's possible. But you need ridiculously amazing end of year results.
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Its interesting looking at the poll... like, 20 minutes ago, the majority had A+s, but now its starting to even out into "average" good marks. (There seems to be a higher standard for "average" on this site...)
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Whats the maximum I can get now with a high B+ for sacs, and A for this exam? (lets just say I ace end of year which is kind of impossible but no harm in dreaming :P)
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Whats the maximum I can get now with a high B+ for sacs, and A for this exam? (lets just say I ace end of year which is kind of impossible but no harm in dreaming :P)
43 would be maximum I'd say. But you would need to absolutely smash the end of year.
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Its interesting looking at the poll... like, 20 minutes ago, the majority had A+s, but now its starting to even out into "average" good marks. (There seems to be a higher standard for "average" on this site...)
haha yeah, don't expect too many E's on here :P
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Whats the maximum I can get now with a high B+ for sacs, and A for this exam? (lets just say I ace end of year which is kind of impossible but no harm in dreaming :P)
43 would be maximum I'd say. But you would need to absolutely smash the end of year.
time to start studying for exam then XD
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fml guys
im gonna commit
i got a B for chem
if i do really well end of year exams .. can i still get .. 35-37 raw for chem? or is it game over for me
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Whats the maximum I can get now with a high B+ for sacs, and A for this exam? (lets just say I ace end of year which is kind of impossible but no harm in dreaming :P)
Congrats on the A btw. Great achievement.
43 would be maximum I'd say. But you would need to absolutely smash the end of year.
time to start studying for exam then XD
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Whats the maximum I can get now with a high B+ for sacs, and A for this exam? (lets just say I ace end of year which is kind of impossible but no harm in dreaming :P)
43 would be maximum I'd say. But you would need to absolutely smash the end of year.
time to start studying for exam then XD
seeing as the mid year was rather simple, i can envisage that the end of year one is going to be screwed...
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fml guys
im gonna commit
i got a B for chem
if i do really well end of year exams .. can i still get .. 35-37 raw for chem? or is it game over for me
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fml guys
im gonna commit
i got a B for chem
if i do really well end of year exams .. can i still get .. 35-37 raw for chem? or is it game over for me
Yeah For sure. Don't give up.
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fml guys
im gonna commit
i got a B for chem
if i do really well end of year exams .. can i still get .. 35-37 raw for chem? or is it game over for me
I had a friend who got D+ for their midyear last year, however got A+ sacs and A+ for the end of year and got 37 :)
There is still hope! :)
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hmm u sure?
i thought u needed a B+ and A+ for 37 RAW ... ...
im pretty sure with a B . im stuffed
but thanks for the motivation bro
appreciate it
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^^ . remember your B+ can be like really high B+. like borderline A . I know an A just feels better but your B+ could be like 1 mark of an A.
i hope so....i feel...not so smart now :(
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I feel for those who aren't satisfied with their results, but isn't it a "You get what you put in" sort of things?
If you ask me, an A is still a good result.
I wish you all well for your further studies.
Remeber: ATAR doesn't mean everything, I know 3 people who are currently doing medicine; they just had to do extra work at university and such.
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not really
i got 95% + on last 5 years bio exams
98% average for sacs
got a B on the mid year exam .. studied my ass off
just made heaps of silly mistakes
very very dissapointed
probz gonna commit lol
i need 36-37 RAW SCORE for chem .. so about 41-42 scaled
and i feel . i have absolutely no chance of 36 raw with a B mid year . even if i get A+ end of yyear
good game pharmacy ...cya later uni dreams
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Can anyone assure me that I can still get high 30's with a midyr result of B+?
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Can anyone assure me that I can still get high 30's with a midyr result of B+?
Definitely.
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Can anyone assure me that I can still get high 30's with a midyr result of B+?
Im fairly certain you can, i got a B+ and my teacher told me last year a student got a high B+ and got a 40 at end of year.
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I feel for those who aren't satisfied with their results, but isn't it a "You get what you put in" sort of things?
If you ask me, an A is still a good result.
I wish you all well for your further studies.
Remeber: ATAR doesn't mean everything, I know 3 people who are currently doing medicine; they just had to do extra work at university and such.
It doesn't always come down to "You get what you put in" and i think that's is why some people are disappointed with their marks. Without even opening my result, I know it definitely doesn't reflect the amount of effort I've spent studying. At the end of the day, its just a grade, it doesn't determine where you'll end up in the future so just brush it off and put a smile on your face ;]
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Lets turn this around for everyone who is disappointed with a B+. Lets say your B+ is low, like really low and you wanted an A right?
So you would be off by like what 4 or max 5 marks from an A out of 75?
You can still recover this at the end of the year! if you ace end of year and only lose like 2 or 3 marks you've in a sense covered up the gap am i right/? Sure losing only 2 or 3 is not going to be easy but dont give up hope.
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hmm u sure?
i thought u needed a B+ and A+ for 37 RAW ... ...
im pretty sure with a B . im stuffed
but thanks for the motivation bro
appreciate it
I'm sure as sure. She didn't get a special consideration thing either (because she wasn't going through a bad situation). She said she was "shattered" but then "worked [her] butt off", and viola, 37. I'm using it as my motivation too :)
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FML i got B
Goodbye Pharmacy..:(
Whats the highest SS i could get?
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It doesn't always come down to "You get what you put in" and i think that's is why some people are disappointed with their marks. Without even opening my result, I know it definitely doesn't reflect the amount of effort I've spent studying. At the end of the day, its just a grade, it doesn't determine where you'll end up in the future so just brush it off and put a smile on your face ;]
I don't even do chem..but thanks for putting it into perspective i guess lol
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ur highest ss with a B or B+ apparently is probably 37-38 rraw which is .. 42 or so scaled
but just like me ( who got a B and about to cry)
its pretty much impossible . unless u dont drop marks on the end of year
.. i think a realistic goal for me .. is .. 34
goodluck for pharm
we can do it
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A+:) well done guys!!
keep in mind how little vce matters after the end of 2010....
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HOLYSFUIUSBFIASBFAS I'm so pissed!!!
C+ FML LOL!
what grade would I need for my end of year exam in order to get a raw score of 32-35?
I totally screwed the goddamn mid year exam!!!
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ur highest ss with a B or B+ apparently is probably 37-38 rraw which is .. 42 or so scaled
but just like me ( who got a B and about to cry)
its pretty much impossible . unless u dont drop marks on the end of year
.. i think a realistic goal for me .. is .. 34
goodluck for pharm
we can do it
Yeah was so depressed when i first saw it, ah well lets just concentrate on acing unit 4 now.
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A!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sooooooooooooooooo not upset.
(note I didn't say I'm happy :p)
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Wow of lot of us want to do pharmacy! I didn't realise :)
The lowest ATAR score intake that Monash took in for Pharmacy was a 90 point something- but that person must have smashed the UMAT. (I actually think that is confidential information- my careers counsellor had to log into something to see those results)
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yeh man dw
i want pharm aswel
i got a B+ for bio .. B for chem .. and A+ for psych
pretty much no chance .. but gotta keep trying
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D+
Amidoinalrite?
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Wow of lot of us want to do pharmacy! I didn't realise :)
The lowest ATAR score intake that Monash took in for Pharmacy was a 90 point something- but that person must have smashed the UMAT. (I actually think that is confidential information- my careers counsellor had to log into something to see those results)
I though minimum was ATAR of 95.
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it pretty much is
unles u ace the umat
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FML i got D+
i studied so hard and went to tutoring every week
how could i have done so badly??
is there ANY way i can possibly get over 35 for chem. im getting A average on sacs
im so depressed
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A+...
EDIT: expecting anywhere between 1 and 3 marks lost. [for you vexx =P]
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peoples post your predicted score if you can. I really want to get an idea of A+ cutoff!
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Wow of lot of us want to do pharmacy! I didn't realise :)
The lowest ATAR score intake that Monash took in for Pharmacy was a 90 point something- but that person must have smashed the UMAT. (I actually think that is confidential information- my careers counsellor had to log into something to see those results)
I though minimum was ATAR of 95.
Recommended. But like matt123 just put it- you can have an ATAR lower than 95 if you smash the UMAT.
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FML i got D+
i studied so hard and went to tutoring every week
how could i have done so badly??
is there ANY way i can possibly get over 35 for chem. im getting A average on sacs
im so depressed
Quoted from me:
I had a friend who got D+ for their midyear last year, however got A+ sacs and A+ for the end of year and got 37
There is still hope! :)
And I'm just curious, is the lowest mark you can get an E? (for an exam that is)
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there is also ungraded...
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2009/midyear/vcechemistry-ga109.pdf
last years btw ...
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B+ FCKN SHATTERED :((((
is 37 still possible my dreams of dentistry GONE FCKN HELLLLLLLL
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37 raw?
yeh u cud
.. u can get 37 raw with a B mid year if u smash the end of year
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An unexpected A+. :)
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B+
hoping i only JUST missed out on an A but as it's chem i'm not crushed :)
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okay lets just say i got A for sacs, and i got an A for the mid year....... what do i have to get in the end of year exam to get at least 45 scaled????????////
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I got D+, I have the heavy sinking feeling in myself atm. Sigh :(
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c+ for chem. Haha ah fuck me dead....
Any chance i could still get high 30's? 37-ish?
Sooooo fricking pissed. And whats shit is that i go to a private school and go to tutor... Boned.
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Damn the guys on here are smart as :S
What kind of study score you reckon i'd be looking at with:
high A for mid years exam
A+ for sacs
low A+ for end of year exam?
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fml.
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Damn the guys on here are smart as :S
What kind of study score you reckon i'd be looking at with:
high A for mid years exam
A+ for sacs
low A+ for end of year exam?
39-42
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Damn the guys on here are smart as :S
What kind of study score you reckon i'd be looking at with:
high A for mid years exam
A+ for sacs
low A+ for end of year exam?
39-42
Ohh shiettt thanks man, i feel so much better now :D +KARAMBA!
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fml.
FML everyone did so well
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Wow, I like the way the VN results are skewed :)
Great work guys!!
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got an A, think its mid-high :)
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A+...
EDIT: expecting anywhere between 1 and 3 marks lost. [for you vexx =P]
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peoples post your predicted score if you can. I really want to get an idea of A+ cutoff!
aha thank you. getting a statement of marks? that's so good!
i won't be getting that, stupid reading last question wrong >_>
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do the statement of marks state the cut off for the grades?
i want to know what the cut off for A and A+ was !
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I am expecting the same as m@tty, on the proviso that I filled in my answer sheet correctly. :S
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do the statement of marks state the cut off for the grades?
i want to know what the cut off for A and A+ was !
The SoM tells you what the cutoff grade for the letter you received
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do the statement of marks state the cut off for the grades?
i want to know what the cut off for A and A+ was !
I know if you get an A+ it states A+ cutoff..
I am expecting the same as m@tty, on the proviso that I filled in my answer sheet correctly. :S
Ahh so jealous, i'm still upset that i fucked that question, and added a random extra 0 on one other question... well i'd still be esctatic with only 3 marks lost! but i think i lost more.. scary. stupid non chem questions D:
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A. :(
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I think I lost 4 marks and got an A+
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I got a C+, odd thing though cause i was expecting a D after all the big stuff ups i made up. I scored around 60%?
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A+ :) a pleasant surprise.
btw, as has alread been noted VN is by NO MEANS a fair group of students to judge yourself against
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So..when can we find out the cutoffs?
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people dont worry too much i'm pretty sure most of the VN forum users are freaks :P
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So..when can we find out the cutoffs?
by wednesday i'd say someone will get their statement of marks as they've already started processing the first arrived, i sent mine in ages ago, so maybe i can let you know tomorrow night when i get home ^__^
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Ahh alright thanks man
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yeah i got a D+,is there any hope of me getting a good mark now??
btw my first tutoring is on thursday, and im determined to do WELL better
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I got an A!! so ecstatic... I thought I would have scored bad considering I wasn't the best in the class.... I'm really curious about the cut offs.
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B+
STOKED.
I was expecting way worse. I never ventured into the Chem exam discussion board because I thought I had stuffed up beyond belief. I know B+ isn't something worth bragging about (especially on VN lol) but somehow I got the second highest mark in my cohort, lolol.
GOOD JOB GUYS! :) I hope everyone is happy with their score. If not, well, there's always Unit 4, hurrah. :)
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B+
STOKED.
I was expecting way worse. I never ventured into the Chem exam discussion board because I thought I had stuffed up beyond belief. I know B+ isn't something worth bragging about (especially on VN lol) but somehow I got the second highest mark in my cohort, lolol.
GOOD JOB GUYS! :) I hope everyone is happy with their score. If not, well, there's always Unit 4, hurrah. :)
hey minilunchbox, what were your bio marks from last year? just wondering :)
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u guys are crazy man i got a C -.- u think i can still get a high study score?
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how do u know if ur mark is low A or high A..??
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OMG I GOT A B!!!
and my dumb teacher gave me an indicative score of a C!!
I SHOWED HER!! such an improvement from D's on both last years year 11 exams!
hahaha sooo rapt and relieved!!
still possible for me to get 35 raw study score with a sac average of about A..?
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how do u know if ur mark is low A or high A..??
You don't. If you want to know you have to purchase a statement of marks from VCAA for $8.80.
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my teacher is dumb too, she argued that the answer to the double bond question was 3 lol
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:D A+ hi-5 eeveryoneee
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B+
STOKED.
I was expecting way worse. I never ventured into the Chem exam discussion board because I thought I had stuffed up beyond belief. I know B+ isn't something worth bragging about (especially on VN lol) but somehow I got the second highest mark in my cohort, lolol.
GOOD JOB GUYS! :) I hope everyone is happy with their score. If not, well, there's always Unit 4, hurrah. :)
hey minilunchbox, what were your bio marks from last year? just wondering :)
Midyear: A SACs: A End of year: A+
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OMG I GOT A B!!!
and my dumb teacher gave me an indicative score of a C!!
I SHOWED HER!! such an improvement from D's on both last years year 11 exams!
hahaha sooo rapt and relieved!!
still possible for me to get 35 raw study score with a sac average of about A..?
Definitely possible.
You should aim for a high A/low A+ on the end of year though. Doesn't seem like an unreasonable aim, seeing as you've gone from Ds to a B.
Good Job :D
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:D A+ hi-5 eeveryoneee
go annahinh!!!!!! hi-5!
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expecting A/B+ but got an A+ so happyyyy
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expecting A/B+ but got an A+ so happyyyy
SAMMEEEEEEE! YAY :D ooh goodie
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Congratulations to you two!
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C+... utterly gutted :(
Any chance for above 35 raw with A SACS and (hopefully) A End of year? :)
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i'm proud of everyone! u all did very welll! :D
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B+ exam, A+ sacs what would i need to get on the end of year exam to get 35 raw?
Probably anything from a low B to a high A, depending on how high your B+ and A+ is. You should aim higher though. You can potentially get a 40 (or more) if you get a decent A+ on the end of year exam.
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B+ exam, A+ sacs what would i need to get on the end of year exam to get 35 raw?
Probably anything from a low B to a high A, depending on how high your B+ and A+ is. You should aim higher though. You can potentially get a 40 (or more) if you get a decent A+ on the end of year exam.
It would be very very high, to be very honest with you.
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man, look at all the nerds with A+ :P
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what about you Dmytro.... didn't you get an A+ :P
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what about you Dmytro.... didn't you get an A+ :P
So Abdi, how did you go? I remember you saying something about either getting an A(+) or a D? Rofl.
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B... bleh, not too pleased with that, but I guess I'll just have to do awesomely well on the end of year!
*sigh* I really want that 40...
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FUCKING how many VN guys with A+ unbelievable any tips guys? i got a C btw shattered
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LOL! I got an A+....... Vcaa is like soo fucked! I probably got someone else's mark.. :|
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LOL! I got an A+....... Vcaa is like soo fucked! I probably got someone else's mark.. :|
lol congrats =D
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C+ for mid year, A for sacs and A+ for end of year exam any good for a 35?
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LOL! I got an A+....... Vcaa is like soo fucked! I probably got someone else's mark.. :|
or your just a genius. yup defs.
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LOL! I got an A+....... Vcaa is like soo fucked! I probably got someone else's mark.. :|
or your just a genius. yup defs.
LOL I wish, my freind got A+ for psychology, Chemistry and Biology, whose the nerd now! :P .... man I'm soo lost now! I don't kknow what my last subject will be, like all my humanites subjects I know I'll ace but chem I actually done good. Actually It'll stay my last! LOL
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hmmm by the looks of things i think the A+ cut off will be about 67/75 ! that is my prediction.. let's see if i'm right :o
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GOOD WORK GUISE.
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hmmm by the looks of things i think the A+ cut off will be about 67/75 ! that is my prediction.. let's see if i'm right :o
close.... Its 69/75!
bloody accounting was 79/90 that's why like 16 people got A+'s in our school! and the class only comprised of 26 -.-
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hmmm by the looks of things i think the A+ cut off will be about 67/75 ! that is my prediction.. let's see if i'm right :o
close.... Its 69/75!
bloody accounting was 79/90 that's why like 16 people got A+'s in our school! and the class only comprised of 26 -.-
:o how do you know?!
...i didn't think even teachers could find out and only via statement of marks (which may be out tomorrow for some)
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I predicted from last years one's! LOL
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I predicted from last years one's! LOL
Oh that stressed me >_>
We shall seeeeeeeeee (please be tomorrow)~
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Nobody got A+s in Accounting in our school. I can't believe the cutoff is 67/75. I DEFINATELY GOT MORE THAN 8 MARKS OFF. I lost everything on the fractional distillation question AND i copied the temperature wrong OFF the graph. So I don't know how the hell that little plus sign is sitting in my paper.
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vcaa seems to be handing out a+'s to so many people on this exam, so they probably don't mean all that much. end of year exam will be the most important imo.
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i go to a private school and nobody in our school got A+ for accounting
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vcaa seems to be handing out a+'s to so many people on this exam, so they probably don't mean all that much. end of year exam will be the most important imo.
ummmm i thouhg they arbitarily ONLY can give 9% of ppl an A+.....lol... again just doing off the fact that 35% of ppl in the poll so far that have actually sat the exam got an A+ isn't exactly a fair indicator of the true percentage of ppl that got an A+......
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^Oh my teacher was saying something about the A+ only including the top 7% of students this year; she may have been guessing but if this is a possibility then getting an A+ is already above 40, and an A could include ~40 score. Which is good!
Nobody got A+s in Accounting in our school. I can't believe the cutoff is 67/75. I DEFINATELY GOT MORE THAN 8 MARKS OFF. I lost everything on the fractional distillation question AND i copied the temperature wrong OFF the graph. So I don't know how the hell that little plus sign is sitting in my paper.
Oh wow really, then maybe it is lower..
Nahh stonecold, it's just because people here are smarter generally ahha, I don't know if anyone got an A+ at my school for chem, well except me if i get one.
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Well, there are probably at least 700 A+ scores in Victoria, and there are only 42 or so here...
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^Oh my teacher was saying something about the A+ only including the top 7% of students this year; she may have been guessing but if this is a possibility then getting an A+ is already above 40, and an A could include ~40 score. Which is good!
Nobody got A+s in Accounting in our school. I can't believe the cutoff is 67/75. I DEFINATELY GOT MORE THAN 8 MARKS OFF. I lost everything on the fractional distillation question AND i copied the temperature wrong OFF the graph. So I don't know how the hell that little plus sign is sitting in my paper.
Oh wow really, then maybe it is lower..
Nahh stonecold, it's just because people here are smarter generally ahha, I don't know if anyone got an A+ at my school for chem, well except me if i get one.
you'll get one. :)
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Congrats everyone who got A+!
p.s I hate you.
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How many people received A+ for the chem exam in your school/class?
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^:P.....juuuust kidding.......but seriously.
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Nobody got A+s in Accounting in our school. I can't believe the cutoff is 67/75. I DEFINATELY GOT MORE THAN 8 MARKS OFF. I lost everything on the fractional distillation question AND i copied the temperature wrong OFF the graph. So I don't know how the hell that little plus sign is sitting in my paper.
I HAVE TO AGREE. I looked through the suggested answers and Im sure I lost more than 8 marks.
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How many people received A+ for the chem exam in your school/class?
There was 4 A+'s in my school
and like 6 A's
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I know of 6 A+s and a few As.
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Thanks stonecold, i'm hoping i do, i'll be so depressed if i dont :(
stupid vce!
Nobody got A+s in Accounting in our school. I can't believe the cutoff is 67/75. I DEFINATELY GOT MORE THAN 8 MARKS OFF. I lost everything on the fractional distillation question AND i copied the temperature wrong OFF the graph. So I don't know how the hell that little plus sign is sitting in my paper.
I HAVE TO AGREE. I looked through the suggested answers and Im sure I lost more than 8 marks.
I'm so happy about this!
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3 A+s for my school and a few As (6ish) which I THOUGHT was high considering last year nobody from last year's class got an A+ and there were only like 2 As , but then I realised other schools like glenny have 30+ people who got A+....
like stonecold said, makes you really feel unspecial.
Still, it's not like they give 1000000 A+s cause they feel like it. There is a cut off mark and only a selected number of A+s up for grabs.
and having said that:
I'm soooooooo screwed for unit 4.
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5 A+s, 4 As, 4 B+s, 4 Bs....
65% of the accas class at my school got A+ :O
umm anyone know when the statistical info will be up on the VCAA sitee?
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Okay, at my school:
A+:1; A:2; B+:0; B:0; C+:0; C:1; D+:0; D:2 ...
Yeah, nice. And I'm ranked third. =\
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ya wont be for much longer matty.
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5 A+s, 4 As, 4 B+s, 4 Bs....
65% of the accas class at my school got A+ :O
umm anyone know when the statistical info will be up on the VCAA sitee?
Dyeni mate, give your thumb a break :)
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hahaha chavss, well done, I hear u got urself some respectable marks;)
btw, thought u cud do the kinematics question with -3x/160 by urself..? haha
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Our class was something like
1 A+
4 C
1 D
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Mate, word spreads quickly. It seems u just can't keep a secret anymore - I guess u can fill me in on who made a+ for phy ... and then construct a normal distribution for our year level results.
RE: the question; ambiguous, and difficult to discern. Luckily, the ppls here at VN were more than willing to help me figure it out.
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no idea... shaw got an A+ but that's all I know... umm nice bunch on VN eyy? nicely done today in backboard btw, always good to see some true footy tenacity:)
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I got a B :(
any chance of getting a 35 with B+ sacs and an A end of year? even a 34?
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no idea... shaw got an A+ but that's all I know... umm nice bunch on VN eyy? nicely done today in backboard btw, always good to see some true footy tenacity:)
Nice! Ye, this is like having a tute, but -$$
I don't believe this is either the board/nor place to discuss our daily meanderings. That said, you could start up a backboard footy forum to spread the sport around Vic.
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Didn't get my result. Top kid in my class got C+ tho so I'm basically screwed. Might need to drop...
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vcaa seems to be handing out a+'s to so many people on this exam, so they probably don't mean all that much. end of year exam will be the most important imo.
The number of A+s generally remains constant. At my school there seems to be more A's than A+s, mainly because the boys are smart but everyone lost marks on silly mistake :(
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highest at our school was 2A's, and i got one of them!!!!!!!, and then a few C's, C+'s and D's
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3 A+s for my school and a few As (6ish) which I THOUGHT was high considering last year nobody from last year's class got an A+ and there were only like 2 As , but then I realised other schools like glenny have 30+ people who got A+....
like stonecold said, makes you really feel unspecial.
Still, it's not like they give 1000000 A+s cause they feel like it. There is a cut off mark and only a selected number of A+s up for grabs.
and having said that:
I'm soooooooo screwed for unit 4.
I come from a relatively big school and we probably have over 20 people who got A+, but then again we have over 20 people who got C+ aswell.
I think it is better in a small school where you do feel very special if ur the only A+
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"B+"
Guess it's okay. Actually, I thought I'd get a "B".
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Wow apparently 43% of people at my school got A or A+ for all mid-year exams..
But for chem i think at my school, most people either got A+ or B+, not many A's or B's.
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anyone get their statement of marks yet?
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B+ fml
But to be honest i'm more saddened by my A in physics. Bye bye 45+...
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Wow apparently 43% of people at my school got A or A+ for all mid-year exams..
But for chem i think at my school, most people either got A+ or B+, not many A's or B's.
WOW do you go to selective school or something?
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Wow apparently 43% of people at my school got A or A+ for all mid-year exams..
But for chem i think at my school, most people either got A+ or B+, not many A's or B's.
WOW do you go to selective school or something?
no.......he just goes to a school where 95% of the people are asian
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Wow apparently 43% of people at my school got A or A+ for all mid-year exams..
But for chem i think at my school, most people either got A+ or B+, not many A's or B's.
WOW do you go to selective school or something?
What do selective schools do if someone gets a shit result? They can't have people contaminating their near perfect results, or so I've heard. Or do they weed most of those people out before VCE?
no.......he just goes to a school where 95% of the people are asian
lmao! i nearly fell off my chair haha...
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Got an A+ with at least 5 wrong on MC so yeah lol.
Big surprise
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Got an A+ with at least 5 wrong on MC so yeah lol.
Big surprise
nice work Greggler!
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YAYYYERRRR!!!
A+
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5 A+'s, 10 A's, 8 B+'s, 8 B's at my school!!
had a few E's :S
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Wow apparently 43% of people at my school got A or A+ for all mid-year exams..
But for chem i think at my school, most people either got A+ or B+, not many A's or B's.
WOW do you go to selective school or something?
What do selective schools do if someone gets a shit result? They can't have people contaminating their near perfect results, or so I've heard. Or do they weed most of those people out before VCE?
no.......he just goes to a school where 95% of the people are asian
lmao! i nearly fell off my chair haha...
Odds are by the time of VCE they won't be there/will do better.
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do keep in mind Unit 4 exam is sooo much harder! O_O
so you won't be seeing that much A+'s as opposed to now! :P
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do keep in mind Unit 4 exam is sooo much harder! O_O
so you won't be seeing that much A+'s as opposed to now! :P
Harder as in more competitive?
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The same percentage of people get A+...
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Wow apparently 43% of people at my school got A or A+ for all mid-year exams..
But for chem i think at my school, most people either got A+ or B+, not many A's or B's.
WOW do you go to selective school or something?
no.......he just goes to a school where 95% of the people are asian
Hahah yeah that is actually true, our school is dominated by international students.
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yeah much more competitive cause like seriously unit 4 is soooo much easier than unit 3 and so there will be more people that will do better so the cut-off will be crazy! they'll make it in a way where only the best can achieve top marks! end of year exam for chem only top 4% of state get A+'s
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darkphoenix what school is this? :P
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yeah much more competitive cause like seriously unit 4 is soooo much easier than unit 3 and so there will be more people that will do better so the cut-off will be crazy! they'll make it in a way where only the best can achieve top marks! end of year exam for chem only top 4% of state get A+'s
What are you on about. It stays consistent at around 10% A+s... [fluctuates between 7 and 12 from what I've seen...]
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All I know is that I am expecting death on November 11. It was supposed to come for the June exam, but VCAA postponed it by around 5 months.
The Unit 3 exam was way too easy. They're gonna have to make the next one harder to filter out the very best from the rest.
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Just looked at the stats. Last year the top 9% got an A+ in the unit 4 exam, and in 2008 the top 10% got an A+
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All I know is that I am expecting death on November 11. It was supposed to come for the June exam, but VCAA postponed it by around 5 months.
The Unit 3 exam was way too easy. They're gonna have to make the next one harder to filter out the very best from the rest.
They better make it harder, this mid year was ridiculous !
Unit 4 is going to be easier, but if we do the work getting high A+ doesn't seem too difficult regardless of cutoff...
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The end of year in 08 had a cutoff of -15 or something.
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Does unit 4 have more theory, or to be more accurate, more theory were they are extremely picky? (e.g the whole collisoin explanation has to be pretty good).
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Does unit 4 have more theory, or to be more accurate, more theory were they are extremely picky? (e.g the whole collisoin explanation has to be pretty good).
yeah our teacher goes with thoery your answers have to be precise or else they won't give you a full mark! :(
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I called VCAA today because i really wanted to know cutoff (ha) and they said they should be out this week from weds onwards, yay.
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I was talking to my co-ordinator and he said that they generally make the Unit 3 and 4 exams at the same time. So both exams tend to be of roughly equal difficulty.
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I was talking to my co-ordinator and he said that they generally make the Unit 3 and 4 exams at the same time. So both exams tend to be of roughly equal difficulty.
Dont toy with us!!!
Nah really that would be really good then :D
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I reckon I can churn out an A+ in the next exam!
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I called VCAA today because i really wanted to know cutoff (ha) and they said they should be out this week from weds onwards, yay.
lol, eager much...
get your grade vexxy? pm if you don't want to discuss it here.
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I called VCAA today because i really wanted to know cutoff (ha) and they said they should be out this week from weds onwards, yay.
lol, eager much...
get your grade vexxy? pm if you don't want to discuss it here.
Haha I haven't checked yet :\
I am really stressed about all these SACs and so i don't really feel the need to look, I think i will if i know A+ cutoff... Think... but i'm just silly >_>
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I called VCAA today because i really wanted to know cutoff (ha) and they said they should be out this week from weds onwards, yay.
lol, eager much...
get your grade vexxy? pm if you don't want to discuss it here.
Oh no. vexx got a D =[
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I called VCAA today because i really wanted to know cutoff (ha) and they said they should be out this week from weds onwards, yay.
lol, eager much...
get your grade vexxy? pm if you don't want to discuss it here.
Oh no. vexx got a D =[
oh no you figured me out;)
yeah guys i actually screwd up this exam majorly and lost about 40 marks :(
:|
edit. SARCASM.
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Ouch :F sorry to hear that, pal.
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Hey guys got a C for chem reckon i could get a SS of 35 raw or at least 30?
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Ouch :F sorry to hear that, pal.
If Vexx got a D+, then the assessor I got was extremely high.
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Hey guys got a C for chem reckon i could get a SS of 35 raw or at least 30?
If u get an high A or A+ u can get around that (for exam 2).
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Hey guys got a C for chem reckon i could get a SS of 35 raw or at least 30?
30 is definitely possible, with a C+ Average throughout unit 3 and 4 you will get a 30. Because you did not get C+ for Exam 1, simple logic dictates that you will need a B (B+ to make sure) in Exam 2 for a solid 30.
In terms of a 35, High SAC Averages (A+) And a High A in Exam 2 will certainly do the job
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High B+ may be around 33, but a High A and you may be competitive enough for a 35
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ohk thanks man btw i see that you got a 34 for mathematical methods is that raw? and wat grades did u get? amount of studying? :)
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Yes it's raw (34 -> 40)
A - Sacs
B+ - Exam 1
B+ - Exam 2
Amount of study prior the SAC.. hmm.. 30 minutes
Amount of study prior the exams, 2 days comprising of extracts from 10 different past exams (LOL yea pathetic right?)
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IF you get an A. what is it like in the state. like top what %?
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Ouch :F sorry to hear that, pal.
Haha.
I was being completely sarcastic, i got an A at the lowest as i didn't lose very many marks.
just need to know A+ cut off as there's a chance i still got an A :o hopefully not :*(
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IF you get an A. what is it like in the state. like top what %?
I believe it's top 20%
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ROFL u owned that shit man! congrats i got a B+ for bio reckon i could pull out a 40? btw i hate probability man any tips on how to own it? plus i got a SAC on integration and differientiation any tips?
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ROFL u owned that shit man! congrats i got a B+ for bio reckon i could pull out a 40? btw i hate probability man any tips on how to own it? plus i got a SAC on integration and differientiation any tips?
I got a B+ also, for my Accounting exam. It's definitely possible for a 40 but it will take a lot of hard work. You will need really exceptional marks on SACS (maybe 95%) and an almost perfect score for exam 2 (maybe lose 3-4 marks max).
I also hated probability dude and I didnt really own the sacs (around 15/20 average per SAC)
Hm.. tips on integration and differentiation? Someone else can fill you in
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I dont think getting really high SAC marks is as important as owning the exam. Just have that target of not losing more than 3-4 marks in every practice exam you do and dont look back ;)
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Personally, SAC marks to me boost morale and motivation to work harder. For example in Business management I haven't dropped a mark in any of the 5 SACs so I am more motivated to study harder come the exam
But if you can get a 95% average on sacs (or ranked top 5 in your cohort) it will definitely show that you are well and truly capable of perfecting the exam in November and in turn will make you think that you can perfect it (which is more important)
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ROFL u owned that shit man! congrats i got a B+ for bio reckon i could pull out a 40? btw i hate probability man any tips on how to own it? plus i got a SAC on integration and differientiation any tips?
do alot of practice questions.
preferably from cambridge checkpoints or A+ studynotes, just find as many diff. questions as possible and do them, make it become second nature so the majority of the sac can be completed in autopilot..
and yeah, wiht a high A upwards and good sac marks u can easily pull of a 40 in bio... i got very low A+ on the first exam, boredring on A, and managed to do ok..
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damn it guys so much stress and there are so many of you with A+ . On integration and differentiation dw bout it. prob just practice my Qs. ANYWAY how do you guys pull of A - A+ on the chem exam? good teach? study a lot? so many smart ppl out there. i wouldnt be surprised if most of u guys have done the UMAT hey? ROFL
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ROFL u owned that shit man! congrats i got a B+ for bio reckon i could pull out a 40? btw i hate probability man any tips on how to own it? plus i got a SAC on integration and differientiation any tips?
Its a bit off-topic but oh well, we're here to learn.
Tips:
KNOW THAT the antiderivative of sinx is indeed -cosx, and all the variations to this
You might get a
a) "derive this" (most likely a product function)
b) hence determine the antiderivative of 'that'
eg. a) derive x^2(logex)
(The answer is 2xlogex + x)
b) hence antiderive 5x(logex). Know the simple algebraic manipulations
log recognition is pretty popular for examining
whenever you get a fraction comprising of two functions, check to see if the top function is the derivative of the bottom
this is really a time saver in most cases where people attempt to solve it
in general:
KNOW THE FORMULAS back to front (dont get confused between deriving and antideriving in the case of n+1 or n-1 powers)
read the questions carefully, tricks are placed to determine the smart from the smartest
know the chain rule for rates (also know formulas for spheres, cones, cylinders, etc)
area between curves, etc. (dont forget you subtract an area of its under the x axis)
also try to simplify as much as possible, take out common factors etc. anything to reduce possible algebraic screw ups cos you know thats embarassing
last but definitely not least, check your batteries (take a spare, there have been countless times where i've seen people fail sacs due to their calc dying)
EDIT: btw dont take this as a checklist i know i've missed out on a lot of content
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ROFL u owned that shit man! congrats i got a B+ for bio reckon i could pull out a 40? btw i hate probability man any tips on how to own it? plus i got a SAC on integration and differientiation any tips?
do alot of practice questions.
preferably from cambridge checkpoints or A+ studynotes, just find as many diff. questions as possible and do them, make it become second nature so the majority of the sac can be completed in autopilot..
and yeah, wiht a high A upwards and good sac marks u can easily pull of a 40 in bio... i got very low A+ on the first exam, boredring on A, and managed to do ok..
how many marks did you lose for bio last year, like on the exams???
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^ lost 6.5 on first exam, and fluked a full mark second exam...
haha, i just realised that ur intials are bullshit :p
how u go in the chem exam?, forgive me for not wanting to scroll up thru this thread to find ur mark..:p
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thanks for all the tips guys appreciate it!
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^ lost 6.5 on first exam, and fluked a full mark second exam...
haha, i just realised that ur intials are bullshit :p
how u go in the chem exam?, forgive me for not wanting to scroll up thru this thread to find ur mark..:p
lmao, i've always waited for someone to pick up on my BS initials haha. probably because i talk a lot of it. :p
A+ for both chem and bio, but I wont be content until i see the statements of marks. bio is looking pretty dicey.
but wow, full marks on bio exam 2, that is amazing. hopefully i can do something similar. :S
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^ lost 6.5 on first exam, and fluked a full mark second exam...
haha, i just realised that ur intials are bullshit :p
how u go in the chem exam?, forgive me for not wanting to scroll up thru this thread to find ur mark..:p
lmao, i've always waited for someone to pick up on my BS initials haha. probably because i talk a lot of it. :p
A+ for both chem and bio, but I wont be content until i see the statements of marks. bio is looking pretty dicey.
but wow, full marks on bio exam 2, that is amazing. hopefully i can do something similar. :S
I'm sure you can.. I'm counting on you to get an amazing score in bio since I can't... Ok? So you better be getting close to full marks on end year :O
*pressure*
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^ lost 6.5 on first exam, and fluked a full mark second exam...
haha, i just realised that ur intials are bullshit :p
how u go in the chem exam?, forgive me for not wanting to scroll up thru this thread to find ur mark..:p
lmao, i've always waited for someone to pick up on my BS initials haha. probably because i talk a lot of it. :p
A+ for both chem and bio, but I wont be content until i see the statements of marks. bio is looking pretty dicey.
but wow, full marks on bio exam 2, that is amazing. hopefully i can do something similar. :S
I'm sure you can.. I'm counting on you to get an amazing score in bio since I can't... Ok? So you better be getting close to full marks on end year :O
*pressure*
just for you i'll try my damnedest! don't hold your breath though. :p
now i've got the queen 'under pressure' song stuck in my head lol!
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^ lost 6.5 on first exam, and fluked a full mark second exam...
haha, i just realised that ur intials are bullshit :p
how u go in the chem exam?, forgive me for not wanting to scroll up thru this thread to find ur mark..:p
lmao, i've always waited for someone to pick up on my BS initials haha. probably because i talk a lot of it. :p
A+ for both chem and bio, but I wont be content until i see the statements of marks. bio is looking pretty dicey.
but wow, full marks on bio exam 2, that is amazing. hopefully i can do something similar. :S
I'm sure you can.. I'm counting on you to get an amazing score in bio since I can't... Ok? So you better be getting close to full marks on end year :O
*pressure*
just for you i'll try my damnedest! don't hold your breath though. :p
now i've got the queen 'under pressure' song stuck in my head lol!
haha. well then, let that song&i be your main source of motivation!
GOOGOGOGOOGO...
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A+ cutoff mark is 67/75...
my statement came... :)
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Dam so high, as expected.
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http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2010/midyear/vce_chemistry_ga1_10.pdf
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....and the rest for those interested http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2010/midyear/midyear.html
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what percentage of ppl u reckon got full marks?
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http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2010/midyear/vce_chemistry_ga1_10.pdf
thanks! but i dont know how to interpret it..lol
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i got my statement of marks today, cut odd was 134/150, which translates to 67/75. Pretty high cut off...
I got a 73 though, so im happy :)
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^ 74.. got a quesiton rong which didnt even occur to me..
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whats the inspection of marks for?
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if u wanna look at the actual paper..
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i got my statement of marks today, cut odd was 134/150, which translates to 67/75. Pretty high cut off...
I got a 73 though, so im happy :)
^ 74.. got a quesiton rong which didnt even occur to me..
Omgsh! you guys did so well! Practically gauranteed a 40+ now regardless of what you get in the end of year. :)
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Woah yeah dam take a step back! :P
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most people at my school were extremely disappointed. we had 1 A+, 1 A, a few B+s (including me) and the rest of the 40 or so students doing the subject got Bs to Ds. It was pretty horrible seeing how dispirited everyone was, including a usually really smart guy who got a C+.
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what study score am I looking at with a B mid year, B+ sacs and A exam?
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what study score am I looking at with a B mid year, B+ sacs and A exam?
around ~35, really depends on how high/low those exam results are, and also how strong your cohort is.
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Oh! btw, if anyone gets their study scores can you all please post your number grade here
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,28067.0.html
cheers!
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what study score am I looking at with a B mid year, B+ sacs and A exam?
around ~35, really depends on how high/low those exam results are, and also how strong your cohort is.
Pretty sure it'd be a high B. My cohort isn't very good though
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can someone please kindly tell me what the cut off for A was???? thx
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123-133
which means 61.5-66.5/75
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i got an A :(
there goes my 43+ for chem :(
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i got an A :(
there goes my 43+ for chem :(
If you got a high A and get a high A+ at the end of the year you could get anywhere up to a 45 raw....so keep studying! :)
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I got an A for my mid year. I've ordered a statement of results but I have a feeling its a really, really low A.
I am currently ranked 1st in a small rather weak cohort (only ~3 great scorers), and the highest chem score last year was 34 (i think, don't know if this matters)
Can anyone predict what the highest study score I could get would be??
Of course I am aiming for a high A+ end of year
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andy if you got a really low A and a high A+ at the end of you, you could still get ~40
i got an A :(
there goes my 43+ for chem :(
If you got a high A and get a high A+ at the end of the year you could get anywhere up to a 45 raw....so keep studying! :)
Yep agreed, high A + high A+ + solid sacs = 45 raw is definitely possible!
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I sent my form yesterday (wed) lol would I be a fool to hope it (SOM) comes tomorrow?
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i applied ages ago and i got mine on wednesday, they called me on tuesday to confirm adress as we have moved houses
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i got an A :(
there goes my 43+ for chem :(
Oh boohoo you did better than 80% of the state and you're upset.
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i got an A :(
there goes my 43+ for chem :(
Oh boohoo you did better than 80% of the state and you're upset.
LOL!
But but...
Hypothetically... If I got 95% but my goal was 98% I would probably still be sad.
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LOL. Here I come 43!!! :)
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i got an A :(
there goes my 43+ for chem :(
Oh boohoo you did better than 80% of the state and you're upset.
LOL!
But but...
Hypothetically... If I got 95% but my goal was 98% I would probably still be sad.
In terms of getting into uni it wouldn't make a colossal difference. Try thinking you're gona get A+ in your easiest subject (which you chose just to boost your ENTER) and getting C+ :'(
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what can i get with:
midyear (mid A)
end of year (mid/high A+)
sacs (A+)
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what can i get with:
midyear (mid A)
end of year (mid/high A+)
sacs (A+)
assuming you've got a good ranking...
if mid A+ then low 40s
if high A+ then mid-low 40's (highest probably 43-44)
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I honest dont think you can get a 45 with A for mid years. this is my opinion alright
cos high A = top10%
Assume you have high A+ for ur end of year top 1%
And then you have a high A+ for sacs top 1%
That averages out to be top 4% and a 45 is top 2%.
If you think about it that way then only around a 42 MAYBE 43 is possible. I also thought ur A in ur mid years will lower ur sac mark, since a good exam mark scales up ur sac marks.
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a good exam mark from yourself will not scaled up your sac marks, that is a terrible rumour.
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a good exam mark from yourself will not scaled up your sac marks, that is a terrible rumour.
i can breathe again D:
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I'd like know how sacs work then...
I was averagin low/mid A's for revs last year and ranked about 10th in a cohort of 40. Then got 3 A+'s and managed the higest study score. My teacher told me it was because i must have done really well on the exam..?
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Exams do influence your SAC marks.
But its quite a complicated process to how it works. I still have no idea.
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i got a c =( wats my chance for a 30 raw in chem?
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Your cohorts performance in the exams influence your sac marks - i.e. if your cohort goes well, your sac marks scale up. So to an extent your individual exam performance does affect your sac marks, but it's minimal (the larger the cohort the smaller the effect).
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Got an A, I've got to stop making silly errors :(
There were 6 A+'s, 3A's and 4 B+'s in my class of 22. The other class in my school, however, did not perform as well (highest score was a B+). Having said that, seeing as how only one person got above 40 in chem at my school last year, I think my cohort is travelling fairly well.
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I'd like know how sacs work then...
I was averagin low/mid A's for revs last year and ranked about 10th in a cohort of 40. Then got 3 A+'s and managed the higest study score. My teacher told me it was because i must have done really well on the exam..?
The exam really counts I suppose. I do care about my sac marks but more because of the confidence booster and the fact that it might half prove I'm on the right track. I've never actually been bothered by how they affect my raw...at the end of the day its almost 100% exam.
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I honest dont think you can get a 45 with A for mid years. this is my opinion alright
cos high A = top10%
Assume you have high A+ for ur end of year top 1%
And then you have a high A+ for sacs top 1%
That averages out to be top 4% and a 45 is top 2%.
If you think about it that way then only around a 42 MAYBE 43 is possible. I also thought ur A in ur mid years will lower ur sac mark, since a good exam mark scales up ur sac marks.
impossible you say...
Well my...."friend" got
GA1: A+ (extremelyyy high)
GA2: A+
GA3: A (highest possible A)
and 45 RAW for bio last yr......so yeah your theory is wrong. It's possible all of you 'A' people :D
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I honest dont think you can get a 45 with A for mid years. this is my opinion alright
cos high A = top10%
Assume you have high A+ for ur end of year top 1%
And then you have a high A+ for sacs top 1%
That averages out to be top 4% and a 45 is top 2%.
If you think about it that way then only around a 42 MAYBE 43 is possible. I also thought ur A in ur mid years will lower ur sac mark, since a good exam mark scales up ur sac marks.
your not thinking about it right.
getting 3 mid A+ is ~45
say if one of those A+ becomes higher and the lower low it's still ~45
say if two of those A+s become much higher and then one of these goes down to an A it balances out to still ~45
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yeh, A+ A A+ for methods can get you 48, so yeah very possible to get A and still get high 40's
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If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.
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If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.
In theory yes, but outliers may occur.
We had a cohort of around 100 kids in Bus Man, and a girl who wouldve been sitting around top 15-20, got the highest exam mark by far, and got a 49, the next closest being 44....
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If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.
In theory yes, but outliers may occur.
We had a cohort of around 100 kids in Bus Man, and a girl who wouldve been sitting around top 15-20, got the highest exam mark by far, and got a 49, the next closest being 44....
Yep and 'that' 44 would have been sitting on a sac ranking of around 20-25th out of 100. And yet others who had close to perfect sac scores ended up with lower study scores.
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If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.
im pretty sure the person with sac ranking X takes the Xth exam mark as their sac mark... not as their exam mark
so if ur ranked tenth n sacs, and u top the exam, u get the top exam mark as ur exam mark, and the tenth exam mark as ur sac mark... that is, to he best of my knowledge (from the VCE chief assessor in spec. mathematics), how it works..
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If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.
In theory yes, but outliers may occur.
We had a cohort of around 100 kids in Bus Man, and a girl who wouldve been sitting around top 15-20, got the highest exam mark by far, and got a 49, the next closest being 44....
Yep and 'that' 44 would have been sitting on a sac ranking of around 20-25th out of 100. And yet others who had close to perfect sac scores ended up with lower study scores.
hahaha "that" 44, who was so close to a 45, butt just failed to get there hahaha
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If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.
In theory yes, but outliers may occur.
We had a cohort of around 100 kids in Bus Man, and a girl who wouldve been sitting around top 15-20, got the highest exam mark by far, and got a 49, the next closest being 44....
Yep and 'that' 44 would have been sitting on a sac ranking of around 20-25th out of 100. And yet others who had close to perfect sac scores ended up with lower study scores.
hahaha "that" 44, who was so close to a 45, butt just failed to get there hahaha
"that" 44 was two marks off a 50! Probably half a mark off a 45? haha
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If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.
In theory yes, but outliers may occur.
We had a cohort of around 100 kids in Bus Man, and a girl who wouldve been sitting around top 15-20, got the highest exam mark by far, and got a 49, the next closest being 44....
Yep and 'that' 44 would have been sitting on a sac ranking of around 20-25th out of 100. And yet others who had close to perfect sac scores ended up with lower study scores.
hahaha "that" 44, who was so close to a 45, butt just failed to get there hahaha
"that" 44 was two marks off a 50! Probably half a mark off a 45? haha
so close, yet so far....
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If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.
im pretty sure the person with sac ranking X takes the Xth exam mark as their sac mark... not as their exam mark
so if ur ranked tenth n sacs, and u top the exam, u get the top exam mark as ur exam mark, and the tenth exam mark as ur sac mark... that is, to he best of my knowledge (from the VCE chief assessor in spec. mathematics), how it works..
that is 100% how it works. :)
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Not exactly. It is a good approximation though.
VCAA explanation...
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If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.
im pretty sure the person with sac ranking X takes the Xth exam mark as their sac mark... not as their exam mark
so if ur ranked tenth n sacs, and u top the exam, u get the top exam mark as ur exam mark, and the tenth exam mark as ur sac mark... that is, to he best of my knowledge (from the VCE chief assessor in spec. mathematics), how it works..
that is 100% how it works. :)
what do you mean 10th exam mark as your sac mark?
do you mean like if the exam is out of 75 you get 65/75?
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no, you get the 10th ranked person's exam mark as your sac mark.. :)
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but you're that tenth person!
wtttff
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no, you get the 10th ranked person's exam mark as your sac mark.. :)
Pretty sure it's the 10th highest exam mark, not the 10th ranked person's.
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no, you get the 10th ranked person's exam mark as your sac mark.. :)
Pretty sure it's the 10th highest exam mark, not the 10th ranked person's.
so if the 10th highest exam mark will be 10 less than the highest right? so for chem it will be 65 which will be an A?
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fuck this.... its confusing me.... -.-
LOL....
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no, you get the 10th ranked person's exam mark as your sac mark.. :)
Pretty sure it's the 10th highest exam mark, not the 10th ranked person's.
so if the 10th highest exam mark will be 10 less than the highest right? so for chem it will be 65 which will be an A?
10th highest exam mark obtained in the cohort.
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no, you get the 10th ranked person's exam mark as your sac mark.. :)
Pretty sure it's the 10th highest exam mark, not the 10th ranked person's.
so if the 10th highest exam mark will be 10 less than the highest right? so for chem it will be 65 which will be an A?
No. The tenth highest exam mark achieved by your cohort.
EDIT: Damn, beaten...
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is this tenth highest scaled?
PS: not to state the obvious but thats just fkn retarded. what if the cohort is retarded.
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wtf is going on
lets get this straight ...
if i got .. 15th for sac marks ... with a sac average of 88% ( my class is extremly smart)
but then .. i only got a B for the exam .. and ALOT OF PEOPLE fuked up the exam ..
does that mean im gonna get approx the 15th exam mark ( C+ or C ) for my sac mark ... when infact it should be a A or so with 88%
???
if thats right , then vcaa are fkin stupid kents and im giving upo with vce rofl ...
?/??
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wtf is going on
lets get this straight ...
if i got .. 15th for sac marks ... with a sac average of 88% ( my class is extremly smart)
but then .. i only got a B for the exam .. and ALOT OF PEOPLE fuked up the exam ..
does that mean im gonna get approx the 15th exam mark ( C+ or C ) for my sac mark ... when infact it should be a A or so with 88%
???
if thats right , then vcaa are fkin stupid kents and im giving upo with vce rofl ...
?/??
that seems like it from the explanation but then the question is if your cohort is so smart how come everyone screwed up the exam or are your sacs really easy that everyone does good?
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no not everyone stufed up
see there was 9 A+ in our class right .. and a few A
then it went me with a B
and after than . everyone got C and D...
see what im saying?
the 15th exam mark would be a C or D
but its fkin bullshit because my sacs which i really worked hard for averaged from 80% to 100% .. and in the end i had 88% average ..
and now . my sac mark drops to a C . which is 60%
fkin bullshit mate .. im pissed off
dropping out of vce
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Are my school sacs at moron level?
Theres always a few guys getting 95-100 in EVERY sac... yet mid year exams we only got 3 A+...
Same thing with our methods and spesh sacs, A+'s are easy and theres always a few too many
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idk. this explanation sounds all too fcked up to be true.
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Read this.
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it is fked up
who ever thought of it is a dead shit
so unfair system
shud be what u got ...not what others got?
fkin shithouse
sorry excuse my language
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it is fked up
who ever thought of it is a dead shit
so unfair system
shud be what u got ...not what others got?
fkin shithouse
sorry excuse my language
There should be more external exams.. or atleast a few schools group up to make a cohort and that the sacs will be at the same level of difficulty through those few schools. But vcaa and schools just cbf
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if i go from A to C+ for my sacs ..
ill be fkin pissed of as fuck
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Read this.
okay I think I sort of get it
School A
In School A, student a has the highest coursework score (90) and the highest external score (89). After moderation, student a stays at the top of the group with a moderated score set equal to the school's highest external score (89). Students b and c have equal coursework scores (79), but student b has a higher external score (70) than student c (67). They receive identical moderated scores (73) and remain equal third in the school's rank order. Student d has the lowest coursework score (52) and the lowest external score (40). After moderation he/she stays at the lowest score.
Lets say there is student e who had sac coursework of say 70 but got equal highest external mark as student A. what happens then?
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yeah you get a C or C+ . Your school needs to give out harder SACs which will differentiate people.
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it is fked up
who ever thought of it is a dead shit
so unfair system
shud be what u got ...not what others got?
fkin shithouse
sorry excuse my language
I don't think the system would work that way..
Because teachers would just give out 100% scores for all SAC's and that would ruin the system....
The system should work because, the first person should get the highest exam mark, the second ranked should get the second highest exam mark and so on. (this is the point of ranking isn't it?? )
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nah this is ridiculous ....
wasnt feeling too well ( chest infection ) on exam day
didnt do aswell as i could have ( dont think im using it as an excuse)
but its stupid .. because i only got a B for chem . which was really shattering ..
but far out i mean .. for my sacs . which wernt that easy .. i was studying hard 3-5 hours a day .. ended up averaging 88% ... which is an A ...
and u see
my class is both extremly smart and exrtremly dumb ... i mean .. i would have been ranked .. 15th in my class or so .... but then after me .. with 88% average ... every one else was averaging about 60% ... which is stupid
because that means .. all the people who fked up on the exam and got a C .....i take their sac marks
fkin bullshit .. going from A to C for sacs because ur class has some dead shits in it ...
absoultely fkin ridiculous ... no chance of 35 raw for chem now . with B mid year C on sacs .... sorry guys
honestly excuse my language . but im furious right now .... all that effortt ... down the fkin drain ....
not even bothering now
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yeah you get a C or C+ . Your school needs to give out harder SACs which will differentiate people.
looking at ur sig... you got swine flu in june of 2010? I remember last year melb high's accounting students who got swine flu who got an A was only boosted to a mid A+, not a high A+.
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^^
Pretty sure there's at least some humour in that sig
Anyway, with the sac/exam thing...don't worry about it. It's seriously out of your control and exists only to make comparisons easier. If you get good exam marks you'll get a high study score, if you don't then you won't. The whole point of moderating sac marks against exam marks is because the VCAA can't control your school.
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i dont get what ur trying to say buddy
look .. im fair pissed off .. if all of this is true .. and i am really getting a C+ for my sacs .. .. this is stupid
i mean . honestly ... if i get a B on the exam . and a A on the sacs .. is shud stay that way
i shouldnt take some dumb kents exam mark as my sac mark .. when ive put all the effort in to acheive my own sac mark
fkin bbullshit man ...
honestly . if i get under 34-45 raw for my chem result because sacs pulled me down .. ill be sooo pissed lol
i dont even know if 35 raw is possible anymore
stupid vcaa dumbest retards make the most stupid system....
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^^
Pretty sure there's at least some humour in that sig
Anyway, with the sac/exam thing...don't worry about it. It's seriously out of your control and exists only to make comparisons easier. If you get good exam marks you'll get a high study score, if you don't then you won't. The whole point of moderating sac marks against exam marks is because the VCAA can't control your school.
wat do u mean sig? .. the 92+ enter thing?
yea i know . i got no chance now
thanks for laughing at it mate .. appreciate your kindness buddy ...
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yeah you get a C or C+ . Your school needs to give out harder SACs which will differentiate people.
looking at ur sig... you got swine flu in june of 2010? I remember last year melb high's accounting students who got swine flu who got an A was only boosted to a mid A+, not a high A+.
haha that was the best. 1 week off school before exams to study and also derived scores for the majority of the school which was not effected at all. The level your mark gets boosted is dependant on your SACs and end of year exam.
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nah this is ridiculous ....
wasnt feeling too well ( chest infection ) on exam day
didnt do aswell as i could have ( dont think im using it as an excuse)
but its stupid .. because i only got a B for chem . which was really shattering ..
but far out i mean .. for my sacs . which wernt that easy .. i was studying hard 3-5 hours a day .. ended up averaging 88% ... which is an A ...
and u see
my class is both extremly smart and exrtremly dumb ... i mean .. i would have been ranked .. 15th in my class or so .... but then after me .. with 88% average ... every one else was averaging about 60% ... which is stupid
because that means .. all the people who fked up on the exam and got a C .....i take their sac marks
fkin bullshit .. going from A to C for sacs because ur class has some dead shits in it ...
absoultely fkin ridiculous ... no chance of 35 raw for chem now . with B mid year C on sacs .... sorry guys
honestly excuse my language . but im furious right now .... all that effortt ... down the fkin drain ....
not even bothering now
you really should have applied for a derived score if you had a chest infection =\ that way if you got an A+ on the end of year 40 would be within reach =\
The problem with VCAA giving you an A for your SACs would mean that teachers could give out really high marks and their students would all get good marks no matter what. Last year I got an A+ on my exam but the "deadshits" in my class, including the prizewinner managed to all get B+ and A on the exam which brought my sacs down considerably, and screwed up my study score. It is what happens when a teacher give high SAC marks to kids which gives them an impression they are doing really well, then come exam time they screw up.
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i dont get what ur trying to say buddy
look .. im fair pissed off .. if all of this is true .. and i am really getting a C+ for my sacs .. .. this is stupid
i mean . honestly ... if i get a B on the exam . and a A on the sacs .. is shud stay that way
i shouldnt take some dumb kents exam mark as my sac mark .. when ive put all the effort in to acheive my own sac mark
fkin bbullshit man ...
I was saying that scaling and moving the sacs is secondary to your exam marks. If you do exceptionally well in your exams, you'll be getting a 45+ score. If you don't do exceptionally well, you won't get that score. It's unfortunate that your SAC marks are that much higher than your exam mark - but to the VCAA it doesn't matter. They can't control the difficulty of your SACs, so they can't use them to determine how "good" you are, so they're forced to use something else/change yours.
You might be upset, but the system is relatively good. There are what, 45 thousand students sitting the VCE? Any system that can handle that volume of students spread out across the state is pretty decent.
wat do u mean sig? .. the 92+ enter thing?
yea i know . i got no chance now
thanks for laughing at it mate .. appreciate your kindness buddy ...
Did you even read my post, I was referring to the guy quoting the swine flu comment.
Sit down, relax and stop obsessing over your exam. It can only hurt your chances to do well later. If you want to use it as motivation, that'd be the best way to deal with it.
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teacher said i wouldnt get any benefits because i sat the exam and was apparently "ok" when i was coughing every 20 seconds in the exam lol..
but oi .. put excuses aside
either way .. i still got a B .. cant change that
but the fact that im getting C instead of A for sacs is ridiculous
if i get a high A+ for end of year exam .. is 35 raw still possible with B mid year ( down from A to C in sacs) and A+ end of year:???
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teacher said i wouldnt get any benefits because i sat the exam and was apparently "ok" when i was coughing every 20 seconds in the exam lol..
but oi .. put excuses aside
either way .. i still got a B .. cant change that
but the fact that im getting C instead of A for sacs is ridiculous
if i get a high A+ for end of year exam .. is 35 raw still possible with B mid year ( down from A to C in sacs) and A+ end of year:???
Yes you can still get 35. But from the general impression I have got so far, your teacher is an idiot. Always talk to your VCE coordinator for these things.
Remember your UNIT 3 Sac mark is 16% of your mark, so if you can stay at the top of your class and get rank 1 or 2, then get A+ on your exam you can end up with like:
B+ B A+ =33-37
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hmm yeah thanks guys
sorry for the rant i just had ..
just extremly upset/pissed off that all my effort has literally gone down the drain .. and apprently im taking some dumb retards sac marks who dosnt study at all and gets 50-60% ... hmmmm
thanks peeps
appreciate it
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Always talk to your VCE coordinator for these things.
I agree with this, if you were coughing from a chest infection then you sound like a candidate for a DES.
On the 35 thing, I got a B and an A+ and got a 37 (not in chem) with average sac marks, so I would say that 35 is achievable.
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thanks buddy
i do hope so .. because 35 raw would boost up to .. 38-40
anyways
appreciate the help :)
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i dunno. it cant be entirely that way. like i said with my example in revs, i was ranked ~10th, i got the highest score (44) only one other person got 40+ and he was ranked first on the SAC's. My SAC hardly even equated to A+ yet i still got three A+'s.
VCAA is confusing.
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yeah it is
i think only shot i have left in getting 35+ is getting an A+ end of year . and try to boost sac average up a little
cheers guys
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i dunno. it cant be entirely that way. like i said with my example in revs, i was ranked ~10th, i got the highest score (44) only one other person got 40+ and he was ranked first on the SAC's. My SAC hardly even equated to A+ yet i still got three A+'s.
VCAA is confusing.
Ive always wondered how much sacs ACTUALLY contribute... not what they claim to contribute
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I was ranked second in sacs and i ended up getting the highest exam mark but the person who was ranked first in sacs still got higher sac marks then me :P
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A+ (finally checked lol)
- shaded in the wrong box for a multi choice that was so easy (S-S one) i didn't bother to check over.
- the extra 0 i randomly added in for that question, i did at the start, so i lost 2 marks there for that even though the rest was right
- accidentally read the pH/temp thing wrong, got confused with symbols
- misunderstood the last question and got 2 wrong there
fml, all stupid things and i knew the course so well.
there goes my high 40's....
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A+ (finally checked lol)
- shaded in the wrong box for a multi choice that was so easy (S-S one) i didn't bother to check over.
- the extra 0 i randomly added in for that question, i did at the start, so i lost 2 marks there for that even though the rest was right
- accidentally read the pH/temp thing wrong, got confused with symbols
- misunderstood the last question and got 2 wrong there
fml, all stupid things and i knew the course so well.
there goes my high 40's....
Was this all provided with your statement of marks ($8.80)?
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A+ (finally checked lol)
- shaded in the wrong box for a multi choice that was so easy (S-S one) i didn't bother to check over.
- the extra 0 i randomly added in for that question, i did at the start, so i lost 2 marks there for that even though the rest was right
- accidentally read the pH/temp thing wrong, got confused with symbols
- misunderstood the last question and got 2 wrong there
fml, all stupid things and i knew the course so well.
there goes my high 40's....
don't worry vexx. you still did awesome, and that exam had a million and one booby traps in it. :)
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Was this all provided with your statement of marks ($8.80)?
It just had the questions i got wrong with a 0/2 for example next to it, and then i looked through a copy of the exam and realised, etc.
don't worry vexx. you still did awesome, and that exam had a million and one booby traps in it. :)
thanksss. but my dreams of 45+ will be so difficult now, i will aim for 44-45; that's still a very good score :)
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yeah, 45 is still awesome. it scales to ~48, so that is a really nice score. :)
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yeah, 45 is still awesome. it scales to ~48, so that is a really nice score. :)
yep thats so amazing if you think about the scaling, even 44 to 47.X is good!
..just gotta get a high A+ this time.
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A+ (finally checked lol)
- shaded in the wrong box for a multi choice that was so easy (S-S one) i didn't bother to check over.
- the extra 0 i randomly added in for that question, i did at the start, so i lost 2 marks there for that even though the rest was right
- accidentally read the pH/temp thing wrong, got confused with symbols
- misunderstood the last question and got 2 wrong there
fml, all stupid things and i knew the course so well.
there goes my high 40's....
don't worry vexx. you still did awesome, and that exam had a million and one booby traps in it. :)
I think I struck every single booby trap lol... knew the course so damn well..
same, fell for stupid stuff.
ok i will study harder this time, i got a little bit arrogant along the way, "oh i know this, i'll just skip it" and ending up with less time suspected to go over everything in the real exam. arghhh my fault for not being more careful &reading..
ok andrew, we will not be fooled by the next tricks they give us!
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yeah im sure i only would have managed a 67-69 at best so im just gunning for a mid/high A+ on the end of year and hoping for a 45 scaled :)
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Does anyone know how many people got full marks? I'd assume there'd be at least half a dozen across the state...
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two low A+s aren't enough for a 40 raw :S?
and adding to what m@tty said, whens the examiner's report coming out?
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two low A+s aren't enough for a 40 raw :S?
and adding to what m@tty said, whens the examiner's report coming out?
two low A+'s are ~40, and depending on SACs marks could be 42-43 if they aren't that low A+s and SACs ranking is high.
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lol i seriously would lick the ground or something equally gross if I got 40+ for chem.
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i would become jewish if i got 37+ raw chem
considering a B mid year ... and hence 37 raw would need almost full marks end of year and high A+ sacs
in other words
thank god im not becoming jewish ....
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dont take the jew joke srsly
...
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lol i seriously would lick the ground or something equally gross if I got 40+ for chem.
well prepare to lick the ground because if you get two low A+'s you will be doing it!
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you can cop 3 low A+ in your results and still get 38 raw
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well B mid year
and apprently my sac score is dropping from A to a C because of my class
therefore .. high A+ / B / Csacs = 35ish in my eyes
38 would be ridiculously hard
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you can cop 3 low A+ in your results and still get 38 raw
~39 possible, but so unlikely to get the absolute min cutoff and lowest A+ ranking at school.
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you can cop 3 low A+ in your results and still get 38 raw
are u seriously hoping for a 45, or is that a joke :/
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You'd have to be absolutely shit in rankings to get 38 taigastyle.
matt123, have u calmed down yet=/?
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well B mid year
and apprently my sac score is dropping from A to a C because of my class
therefore .. high A+ / B / Csacs = 35ish in my eyes
38 would be ridiculously hard
You still have time to improve your ranking and equally your class has a chance to improve the moderation of your SACs in the next exam.
And what, are you a moslem or something? What you got against Jews?
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haha nah mate im just jkin about jew thing
love the jews
p,s
no im not over my crap mark
but yeah
taigstyle ull do well man .. ull smash it . just gotta keep working hard
anything is possible buddy ... well not anything
but alot of things
:D
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matt, I really liked you, but I think you need to get over the SAC thing, i mean SACS count and an A for a SAC compared to a C would have been nice, but:
*That's half of the total SAC marks
*You still have this term like everyone has been telling you
*The exam is more important
and most importantly, what I noticed throughout your posts is this:
you can't be angry at the system for dropping your sac marks due to the class rankings when it also got affected by the B you got in the exam of your own accord. And that B, which was all you, affects the raw more than the SAC.
Sorry to be harsh, but just saying like it is...
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yeh so true
respect your point
nah im over the sac thing...i meant the B in the exam
just gotta work hard now :)
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lol yay matt!
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you can cop 3 low A+ in your results and still get 38 raw
are u seriously hoping for a 45, or is that a joke :/
am definitely hoping for a 45 in chem
iffets, ranking wouldnt have to be that shit =\
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you can cop 3 low A+ in your results and still get 38 raw
are u seriously hoping for a 45, or is that a joke :/
yh buddy
u got it easy
keep working hard
am definitely hoping for a 45 in chem
iffets, ranking wouldnt have to be that shit =\
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you can cop 3 low A+ in your results and still get 38 raw
~39 possible, but so unlikely to get the absolute min cutoff and lowest A+ ranking at school.
That happened to my sister (38 with 3 A+'s).
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shes really reaaly unlucky then. and her class must be full of dead shits
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you can cop 3 low A+ in your results and still get 38 raw
are u seriously hoping for a 45, or is that a joke :/
am definitely hoping for a 45 in chem
iffets, ranking wouldnt have to be that shit =\
with a C+ ? -.-
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you can cop 3 low A+ in your results and still get 38 raw
are u seriously hoping for a 45, or is that a joke :/
am definitely hoping for a 45 in chem
iffets, ranking wouldnt have to be that shit =\
with a C+ ? -.-
He's just hoping LOL
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He is getting a derived score (unless swine flu magically disappeared in the day between the physics and chem exam) and also aiming for full marks for the end of year. Assuming good SACs he should be able to make 45 comfortably.
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He is getting a derived score (unless swine flu magically disappeared in the day between the physics and chem exam) and also aiming for full marks for the end of year. Assuming good SACs he should be able to make 45 comfortably.
To be honest I dont read the news much but... CAN YOU EVEN GET SWINE FLU DURING THAT TIME. I THOUGHT IT WAS LAST YEAR....
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That's what I thought, but his sig says otherwise =S
Unless his whole derived score claim is bogus, though, he should receive quite a high score for the mid-year, given he achieves his goal for the next exam.
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99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% sure its all bs now..
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you cant really have an aim to get full marks.. cos its really dependent on the day. I reckon full marks is just getting lucky.. shouldnt everyone be aiming to get full marks?
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trust me it is possible :)
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you cant really have an aim to get full marks.. cos its really dependent on the day. I reckon full marks is just getting lucky.. shouldnt everyone be aiming to get full marks?
people get full marks all the time lol
every year there is a massive handfull that get full marks
the only subject which people fail to get full marks in is usually biology and possibly english .. then again heaps still do
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you cant really have an aim to get full marks.. cos its really dependent on the day. I reckon full marks is just getting lucky.. shouldnt everyone be aiming to get full marks?
people get full marks all the time lol
every year there is a massive handfull that get full marks
the only subject which people fail to get full marks in is usually biology and possibly english .. then again heaps still do
Yeh I know, but Im just saying it requires other factors such as luck and just how people feel on the day
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Yea, there are a LOT more people capable, on a 'good' day (determined by luck, health, etc.), of attaining full marks than those who do.
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how about we just cancel all this talk and decide that 2 A's and a high A+ for end of year gives you 40+.
kthnxbye
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how about we just cancel all this talk and decide that 2 A's and a high A+ for end of year gives you 40+.
kthnxbye
:D
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only 2 As and a high A+ =/??
and taiga style... u are rather optimistic considering the <20 in chinese and 23 in geo. GL.
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only 2 As and a high A+ =/??
and taiga style... u are rather optimistic considering the <20 in chinese and 23 in geo. GL.
why shouldn't he be? look at the other estimated study scores of the other subjects. one or two subjects don't only contribute to your Atar you know! :P
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lol i know, hence I said good luck (also considered the C+ in chem)
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only 2 As and a high A+ =/??
and taiga style... u are rather optimistic considering the <20 in chinese and 23 in geo. GL.
Don't make assumptions :)
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only 2 As and a high A+ =/??
and taiga style... u are rather optimistic considering the <20 in chinese and 23 in geo. GL.
Don't make assumptions :)
well, don't think there's anyone that is going to critisize you for being pessimistic taigastyle :P hey, if you put enough work into it anything's possible :)
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