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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: Chromeo33 on September 03, 2010, 08:56:35 pm
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Could I be facing problems next year (workload-wise) in Year 12 with a subject lineup looking like this:
Physics
Biology
Chemistry
Methods
English
... taking into account that I'm an average student (and in no way am I a genius)?
Is this going to end up being too much work?
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What I can say is that you would have 3 mid-year exams to study for, so you'd have to know your Unit 3 really well and have good time management and organisation skills.
Yeah, you'd have to do a lot of work during the holidays to be able to cruise more easily through the year.
Chemistry has a big work load from what I've heard. Methods shouldn't be too hard, its practically the same as 1/2
You should be fine if you have good organisation skills.
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3 mid-years?
Yeah, didn't think about that.
So I'm guessing there'd be a tad more pressure to perform in June as well as November, eh?
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I actually think 3 mid years would be beneficial.
Yes you will possibly have to study three times as hard as others at your school mid year but if you nail it you'll be set.
Also subjects with midyears are much better, cuts end of year revision in half because you only need to study Unit 4.....
Also have you done a year 12 subject this year??
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There's ntohing wrong with 5 subjects, it's 6 when you start to get problems
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What I can say is that you would have 3 mid-year exams to study for, so you'd have to know your Unit 3 really well and have good time management and organisation skills.
Yeah, you'd have to do a lot of work during the holidays to be able to cruise more easily through the year.
Chemistry has a big work load from what I've heard. Methods shouldn't be too hard, its practically the same as 1/2
You should be fine if you have good organisation skills.
Chemistry has a small workload as long as you can understand it. BIOLOGY HAS A BIG WORK LOADDDDD
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If you can work ahead in unit 3 especially and start practice exams early you'll be fine
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What I can say is that you would have 3 mid-year exams to study for, so you'd have to know your Unit 3 really well and have good time management and organisation skills.
Yeah, you'd have to do a lot of work during the holidays to be able to cruise more easily through the year.
Chemistry has a big work load from what I've heard. Methods shouldn't be too hard, its practically the same as 1/2
You should be fine if you have good organisation skills.
Chemistry has a small workload as long as you can understand it. BIOLOGY HAS A BIG WORK LOADDDDD
Pretty sure Bio isn't as hardcore as chemistry.
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@andy456 - Yeah, I'm currently doing 3/4 Psych :)
Prac exams early, stay organised, stay focused
All in all what I've gathered
Wow, I was expecting chemistry to have the biggest workload of 'em all!
And apparently bio SACS are the worst as well..
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Pretty sure Bio isn't as hardcore as chemistry.
Perhaps you may see Chemistry has a more difficult subject than Biology, but I had this discussion with my friends the other day.
If you are naturally gifted with scientific sense, you don't need to put in as much effort into chemistry as it is a conceptual thing and the way you phrase your answers is important.
Hence, the effort required varies in Chemistry.
I don't do bio but I've heard, its mostly memorising. Hence, you could say there is a benchmark which everyone needs to reach in study in order to do well since it's majorly rote-learn from what I've heard.
So, you can say that biology people may have the short end of the stick compared to people in chem and physics, as sometimes you get those naturally smart people who just ace those two subs without much effort.
btw hutchoo...just wondering...aren't you in year 10?
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And, Chromeo, of course you can do those subjects! If you like them or need them, then go for it and put in the effort (not like I can talk lol, but yes).
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Pretty sure Bio isn't as hardcore as chemistry.
Perhaps you may see Chemistry has a more difficult subject than Biology, but I had this discussion with my friends the other day.
If you are naturally gifted with scientific sense, you don't need to put in as much effort into chemistry as it is a conceptual thing and the way you phrase your answers is important.
Hence, the effort required varies in Chemistry.
I don't do bio but I've heard, its mostly memorising. Hence, you could say there is a benchmark which everyone needs to reach in study in order to do well since it's majorly rote-learn from what I've heard.
So, you can say that biology people may have the short end of the stick compared to people in chem and physics, as sometimes you get those naturally smart people who just ace those two subs without much effort.
btw hutchoo...just wondering...aren't you in year 10?
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And, Chromeo, of course you can do those subjects! If you like them or need them, then go for it and put in the effort (not like I can talk lol, but yes).
Yes, year 10.
I wasn't referring to chemistry being the 'harder' science.. Its just got more work in the course?
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Chem, like Spesh, is overhyped. But actually, Physics is harder than Chem IMO; Unit 4 concepts for Physics are freaking weird, whilst Unit 4 for Chem is just extension of familiar old stuff.
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Could I be facing problems next year (workload-wise) in Year 12 with a subject lineup looking like this:
Physics
Biology
Chemistry
Methods
English
... taking into account that I'm an average student (and in no way am I a genius)?
Is this going to end up being too much work?
There's never too much work, just pace yourself, study when you need to and you should be fine. Just try not to slack off during the year :)
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can you get into vetenary science by doing biomed?
What I can say is that you would have 3 mid-year exams to study for, so you'd have to know your Unit 3 really well and have good time management and organisation skills.
Yeah, you'd have to do a lot of work during the holidays to be able to cruise more easily through the year.
Chemistry has a big work load from what I've heard. Methods shouldn't be too hard, its practically the same as 1/2
You should be fine if you have good organisation skills.
Chemistry has a small workload as long as you can understand it. BIOLOGY HAS A BIG WORK LOADDDDD
Thanks God im might do bio in yr 11 :)
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Lols, I'm doing bio- if anything .. Its awesome, great to knock off a fun science like that in year 11 :D
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Honestly mid-years are worth it. I only had one and now I face the daunting task of revising stuff from way back in February for 4 other subjects. I did psych mid-year and its pleasing to know ill only have to go back a short while to revise for the unit 4 exam.
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I know someone who had three mid-years and they got 2A+s and one A.
It's completely doable. :)
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I know someone who had three mid-years and they got 2A+s and one A.
It's completely doable. :)
But this is VN and a A is a complete fail. :P
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can you get into vetenary science by doing biomed?
What I can say is that you would have 3 mid-year exams to study for, so you'd have to know your Unit 3 really well and have good time management and organisation skills.
Yeah, you'd have to do a lot of work during the holidays to be able to cruise more easily through the year.
Chemistry has a big work load from what I've heard. Methods shouldn't be too hard, its practically the same as 1/2
You should be fine if you have good organisation skills.
Chemistry has a small workload as long as you can understand it. BIOLOGY HAS A BIG WORK LOADDDDD
Thanks God im might do bio in yr 11 :)
Just pay attention in Unit 1 Bio (according to my "sources")
Unit 1 = Success in Units 3/4
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Honestly mid-years are worth it. I only had one and now I face the daunting task of revising stuff from way back in February for 4 other subjects. I did psych mid-year and its pleasing to know ill only have to go back a short while to revise for the unit 4 exam.
Yeah this is what I was hoping to hear. Technically it should be a more paced, periodic learning period in Year 12 by having mid-years, shouldn't it ?
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im doing unit 1 bio atm and its so boring, i sleep in class. IMO you dont need biology unit 1 for 3 4 unless you are planning to go overseas on summer holidays like mwa. I borrowed this book in the library about biology but couldn't be stuff getting ahead and then on the next day the teacher had photocopied sheets exactly from that same book! If only I had read it and then been able to look like an expert...
This is why I'm not too keen on doing it. too much study. Like the content is interesting, but the way it has to be taught (well at my school) is just arrgh! Talk talk talk, snore snore snore. Why cant we do more pracs :(
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im doing unit 1 bio atm and its so boring, i sleep in class. IMO you dont need biology unit 1 for 3 4 unless you are planning to go overseas on summer holidays like mwa. I borrowed this book in the library about biology but couldn't be stuff getting ahead and then on the next day the teacher had photocopied sheets exactly from that same book! If only I had read it and then been able to look like an expert...
This is why I'm not too keen on doing it. too much study. Like the content is interesting, but the way it has to be taught (well at my school) is just arrgh! Talk talk talk, snore snore snore. Why cant we do more pracs :(
Haha yeah sadly that's VCE for ya (Y)
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I know someone who had three mid-years and they got 2A+s and one A.
It's completely doable. :)
But this is VN and a A is a complete fail. :P
loooool shush visionz :) its still proer than many of us ><
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I do both bio and chem this year, I feel that biology has a much larger workload though easier to get an A+ since the cutoff is lower. Chem on the otherhand, is more about perfection and understanding concepts perfectly and making no mistakes.
No biology is not very rote learning-ish, it used to be, but the new course has quite alot of application questions where you understand a concept and you apply it. The concepts are much easier, to understand but the reason I saw biology has a larger workload is that it covers a large range of topics, and if one was go into full depth into each study design dotpoint it will be, a larger workload, than chemistry.
This is just my opinion, btw I did get A+ for both mid year exams and worked much harder for biology then chemistry. I probably did twice as many past papers for biology, whilst chemistry's difficulties were gone once the concepts "clicked".
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I do both bio and chem this year, I feel that biology has a much larger workload though easier to get an A+ since the cutoff is lower. Chem on the otherhand, is more about perfection and understanding concepts perfectly and making no mistakes.
No biology is not very rote learning-ish, it used to be, but the new course has quite alot of application questions where you understand a concept and you apply it. The concepts are much easier, to understand but the reason I saw biology has a larger workload is that it covers a large range of topics, and if one was go into full depth into each study design dotpoint it will be, a larger workload, than chemistry.
This is just my opinion, btw I did get A+ for both mid year exams and worked much harder for biology then chemistry. I probably did twice as many past papers for biology, whilst chemistry's difficulties were gone once the concepts "clicked".
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oh okay, I don't do bio so sorry about the rote-learning thing, but I was trying to get at the same thing as you, which is, that biology's workload is a lot more because chemistry's concepts, once understand, alleviate much of the pressure in the course. I got the vibe off my bio-friends that they just needed to study so much more for bio.