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Title: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: wildareal on September 14, 2010, 01:47:42 am
Hi,
Could someone please give me the lowdown on the types of exams there are and their levels of difficulty?
Cheers.
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: Martoman on September 14, 2010, 04:21:32 pm
Kilbaha>NEAP>MAV>VCAA
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: happyhappyland on September 14, 2010, 04:24:05 pm
Insight is pretty hard..
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: Jdog on September 14, 2010, 04:35:15 pm
,i found insight pretty straight forward as are A+ publishing.


Hardest by a far if you can get your hands on them are IARTV (CSE) past studdents have given me hardcopies there harder then all those companies.

Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: Yitzi_K on September 14, 2010, 05:21:57 pm
Kilbaha is insanely hard, to the point where doing them will do far more damage in terms if de-motivation than it has productive benefit.

That's my experience of them anyway.

As for good ones, I like Heffernan.
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Post by: chopz on September 14, 2010, 05:28:28 pm
,i found insight pretty straight forward as are A+ publishing.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: mystikal on September 14, 2010, 05:32:40 pm
Obviously the best = VCAA but the companies which come close are:
im not basing my judgement on solely of difficulty, but on similarity and balance of difficulty which will emulate that of a normal VCAA exam.
1st MAV = most relevant to VCAA style
2nd NEAP = good all round
3rd Heffernan = has its good days and bad

Kilbaha and CSE = insanely hard but sometimes unrealistic

Insight = straight forward(easy at times)

There are other companies like TSSM and TSFX but they are terrible overall
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: TyErd on September 14, 2010, 05:46:34 pm
Martoman how may exams did you do to get your 50?
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: taiga on September 14, 2010, 05:50:55 pm
Well I personally think the most difficult is iTute. However some things, though in the scope of the course, are beyond the scope of VCAA.
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: EvangelionZeta on September 14, 2010, 06:20:35 pm
Obviously the best = VCAA but the companies which come close are:
im not basing my judgement on solely of difficulty, but on similarity and balance of difficulty which will emulate that of a normal VCAA exam.
1st MAV = most relevant to VCAA style
2nd NEAP = good all round
3rd Heffernan = has its good days and bad

Kilbaha and CSE = insanely hard but sometimes unrealistic

Insight = straight forward(easy at times)

There are other companies like TSSM and TSFX but they are terrible overall

This is probably about right, along with taiga's comment that iTute is probably the hardest.  I think there's merit in doing the really hard ones though, in that if you can easily do well on them, then the VCE ones should be a joke.
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: googoo on September 14, 2010, 09:05:22 pm
A 'hard' exam that follows the requirements of the study design identifies the points that are easily overlooked by you.
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: akira88 on September 14, 2010, 09:14:24 pm
Ah crap I printed out an iTute exam, panicked as I couldn't even answer the first question...
Do TSSM and TSFX go beyond the course?
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Post by: Chavi on September 14, 2010, 09:25:10 pm
Ah crap I printed out an iTute exam, panicked as I couldn't even answer the first question...
Do TSSM and TSFX go beyond the course?
TSFX exams contain a lot irrelevant material - I encountered some questions in a Methods TSFX exam that wasn't even on the Spec (let alone methods) course - it's not that it was difficult, it was just plainly extraneous (i.e. having to sketch and solve equations containing hyperbolic functions like cosh and sinh). Unless you have no exams left to do, I wouldn't recommend attempting their exams. The study notes are decent though.
TSSM is challenging at Spec level, but I found it great for methods with a desirable difficulty level.

btw, some companies (neap, iartv, itute) purposely make the exams harder, so don't become daunted if you're finding it difficult. Chances are that everyone else is too :)
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: googoo on September 14, 2010, 10:23:56 pm
Ah crap I printed out an iTute exam, panicked as I couldn't even answer the first question...
Do TSSM and TSFX go beyond the course?
Was the first question irrelevant/outside the study design/too tricky/what?
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: Whatlol on September 14, 2010, 10:24:43 pm
I personally find itute to be the hardest, kilbaha aren't too bad, they have their moments tho (=
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Post by: m@tty on September 14, 2010, 10:29:03 pm
From memory:

Insight and TSSM are straight-forward and quite easy.

Neap and itute are hard, though still very relevant.

TSFX is just ...

And VCAA is alongside TSSM and insight.
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: Martoman on September 14, 2010, 10:45:42 pm
Martoman how may exams did you do to get your 50?

Quite a few I had lots of spare time doing year 10 and all :S I got through 19 exam 1's and 23 exam 2's exactly. (Grizzly) Bear in mind average times on exam 1 was 15-20 mins and 45-1hour on exam 2's. Thats how I got so many done.
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Post by: TyErd on September 14, 2010, 11:18:51 pm
you must be really fast, i've done 4 exam 1's so far and they each take me 45 minutes.
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: Jdog on September 15, 2010, 09:26:47 am
where can i find these i-tute exams
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: Jdog on September 15, 2010, 11:38:16 am
i just did the tsfx exam 1 2006, I found all the exam relevant to the course, I ended up gettin 37, but it took me the full hour, which is unusual, but i recommend you do it cuz it is completely relevant just a bit harder than other exam 1's
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: vexx on September 15, 2010, 12:17:15 pm
i don't understand how it's possible to finish exam 1 in less then 20minutes.. thats ridiculous haha. how do you guys even do that??

i think i may give up on methods, the most i can probably get is 42 with heaps of work, but i can get a further equivalent of ~47 with less work and more time to focus on my weakness. so i dont think methods is going to help me too much even if i do well as englang is wayyy more important.
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: taiga on September 15, 2010, 06:27:43 pm
where can i find these i-tute exams

www.itute.com

they are free, so are their notes.
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: Jdog on September 15, 2010, 06:28:41 pm
cheers
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: LFTM on September 16, 2010, 05:50:38 pm
Even though the whole state is doing CAS now, it's still useful to do the normal ones right?
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: jasoN- on September 16, 2010, 06:00:46 pm
Is there even that much of a difference apart from matrices chapter? and possibly more complicated questions requiring algorithms in the CAS calculators
I would say that normal ones are definitely useful
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: tcg93 on September 16, 2010, 06:14:16 pm
Personally, for methods, I think MAV and Heffernan were best

Edit: Apart from VCAA of course
Title: Re: Best Practice Exams?
Post by: Martoman on September 16, 2010, 07:45:30 pm
i don't understand how it's possible to finish exam 1 in less then 20minutes.. thats ridiculous haha. how do you guys even do that??

i think i may give up on methods, the most i can probably get is 42 with heaps of work, but i can get a further equivalent of ~47 with less work and more time to focus on my weakness. so i dont think methods is going to help me too much even if i do well as englang is wayyy more important.

Right I didn't mean to scare anyone. Remember, the exam 1 is an hour long. Its made that long because that is how long it should take.