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Title: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 18, 2010, 08:32:02 pm
Always nice to know there are other VN members at the same lecture as you and im still undecided, so are many on this forum so i thought we'd say (list style) what lectures we are going to.

English Language: VATE

Bio: Neap or Engage. (its tomorrow? how early..well screw those guys)...access? (not sure about this one) oh also VU

Chem: Neap or Engage..access? (not sure about this one either) also VU

IT:A : Free swinburn ones?

Methods: Probably none..tutors enough
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: TyErd on September 18, 2010, 08:39:10 pm
tsfx - methods and further
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 18, 2010, 08:57:29 pm
Methods - VU, DHA
Spesh - DHA
Chem - VU
English - VU (probs wont go), VATE
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: eeps on September 18, 2010, 09:00:01 pm
LOL.

Accounting - TSFX, VU and some other one... which I can't remember the name of.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: vea on September 18, 2010, 09:00:52 pm
None at all.
I don't really think going to lectures will provide any benefits for methods.
Maybe for chem next year though.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: kat148 on September 18, 2010, 09:02:34 pm
English Language - VATE or Access Education
Methods - Derrick Ha and VU
Psychology - VU
Business Management - VU and maybe CPAP


Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: physics on September 18, 2010, 09:05:07 pm
their all VU for me D:
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: Slumdawg on September 18, 2010, 09:05:50 pm
Methods: Derrick Ha

English: VATE

Psych: Pathways Education - Monash Caulfield

Chem: Pathways Education - Monash Caulfield

Media: ATOM.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: minilunchbox on September 18, 2010, 09:22:16 pm
English - VATE, VU, UoM (their revision lectures for KLD and UMEP students)
Methods - VU, UoM
Psych - Access, VU
Chem - VU, UoM

TBH, I really like acronyms ATM.

Doubt I'll go to all the ones at VU.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: m@tty on September 18, 2010, 09:29:51 pm
English - VATE and signed up (might go) to VU

Literature - VATE

Spesh - DHA

Chemistry - Access, VU

Physics - Access, VU
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: iffets12345 on September 18, 2010, 10:14:57 pm
English - VATE and signed up (might go) to VU

Literature - VATE

Spesh - DHA

Chemistry - Access, VU

Physics - Access, VU

dude u never told me. Seeya at VATE then.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 18, 2010, 10:19:54 pm
Is VATE supposed to be good? i'm thinking of booking it now before all the sessions get filled up
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: InitialDRulz on September 18, 2010, 10:26:16 pm
English: VATE
Methods: Derrick Ha
Specialist: Derrick Ha
Chemistry: SWOT10
Physics: SWOT10

lets see how they go :D
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: littlebecc on September 18, 2010, 10:31:55 pm
pathways.
only booked 2 though
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: samuch on September 18, 2010, 10:37:01 pm
lit: VATE
methods and chem: free melb uni ones for KLDs
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: taiga on September 18, 2010, 10:46:57 pm
by the looks of it there will be a VN meetup at derrick ha
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 18, 2010, 10:48:19 pm
by the looks of it there will be a VN meetup at derrick ha

That means there's gonna be a bunch of 50 SS and 99.95's there. gonna be surrounded by legend-to-be's :D
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: _henwee on September 18, 2010, 10:51:22 pm
TSFX - Spesh & Chem. =]

Pretty much starting school a week early. XD
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: luken93 on September 18, 2010, 10:53:38 pm
by the looks of it there will be a VN meetup at derrick ha
better start a pole of who is going on what day...
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: taiga on September 18, 2010, 10:58:43 pm
by the looks of it there will be a VN meetup at derrick ha
better start a pole of who is going on what day...


do it, i will be able to karma people irl.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: iffets12345 on September 18, 2010, 11:20:44 pm
Is VATE supposed to be good? i'm thinking of booking it now before all the sessions get filled up

I like VATE because unlike the TSFX they have specific text sessions for lit. And it's cheaper, yet taught by teachers [ i think] who know the specifics of each text. I don't know how to compare it with TSFX for standard English. I just generally have an aversion to TSFX anyways.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: darkphoenix on September 18, 2010, 11:32:36 pm
English - School lecture with Ross Huggard, VU

Chemistry - School lecture with R Sette, VU

Spesh - MAV

Methods - Engage, VU


Not sure if I'll go to all of VU ones, and thinking about maybe access for chem or spesh.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: kat148 on September 18, 2010, 11:47:34 pm
by the looks of it there will be a VN meetup at derrick ha
better start a pole of who is going on what day...


do it, i will be able to karma people irl.

..not so much a pole but maybe revive this thread?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: InitialDRulz on September 18, 2010, 11:51:23 pm
Well we don't really know which day people are going (either monday or friday) for methods haha
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: m@tty on September 19, 2010, 12:31:14 am
English - VATE and signed up (might go) to VU

Literature - VATE

Spesh - DHA

Chemistry - Access, VU

Physics - Access, VU

dude u never told me. Seeya at VATE then.

I told you last Thursday... While you were awake...
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: iffets12345 on September 19, 2010, 10:25:42 pm
you said u hadn't booked. And usually, i take your apathy as apathy. :).
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: iffets12345 on September 19, 2010, 10:26:38 pm



I told you last Thursday... While you were awake...

Thank you for rubbing it in. Most glorious lesson of my life.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: chrisjb on September 21, 2010, 01:03:37 pm
Is anyone doing NEAP seminars? If so, how important is that letter they sent you just after you signed up... the confirmation type one... i lost mine :(
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: liv on September 21, 2010, 01:57:46 pm
OMGOSH i thought the VU bio lecture was today....
so i went in to werribee (yay for a 2 hour drive) and there was a corporate accounting lecture instead.
mortified.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 21, 2010, 02:01:03 pm
OMGOSH i thought the VU bio lecture was today....
so i went in to werribee (yay for a 2 hour drive) and there was a corporate accounting lecture instead.
mortified.

Ouch..
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: iffets12345 on September 21, 2010, 04:19:12 pm
were your parents pissed off? my mom wouldve cracked the Sh**ts.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: Hutchoo on September 21, 2010, 04:31:45 pm
OMGOSH i thought the VU bio lecture was today....
so i went in to werribee (yay for a 2 hour drive) and there was a corporate accounting lecture instead.
mortified.

Ouch..

Holy shit.. I feel so sorry for you- my mum would be pissed.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: liv on September 21, 2010, 05:12:39 pm
were your parents pissed off? my mom wouldve cracked the Sh**ts.

no. my dad just laughed at me.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: Hutchoo on September 21, 2010, 05:30:55 pm
were your parents pissed off? my mom wouldve cracked the Sh**ts.

no. my dad just laughed at me.

HAHAHAHAHA. What a nice guy (Y).
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: iffets12345 on September 21, 2010, 05:37:12 pm
lol! awesome parents. I just dropped the takeaway and I got a grilling for "being careless enough to drop a box"
imagine if i got the dates wrong ><
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: physics on September 21, 2010, 08:46:46 pm
so there will be a possible V meetup @ VU too then??
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: liv on September 21, 2010, 09:50:29 pm
well i will be at the VU bio lecture, anyways
on the right date, too, this time
:D
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: iffets12345 on September 21, 2010, 10:30:16 pm
are VU lectures good?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 21, 2010, 10:39:04 pm
are VU lectures good?

irrelevant, theyre free lol

WHAT YOU MEAN, FREE GOOD?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 21, 2010, 11:03:16 pm
Yeah, who cares if they're any good they're free, i concur.

Anyway, the people they hire dont actually work for VU and are semi-legit decent (they only rob you when you're not looking) people to give lectures i reckon, the chem dude knows his stuff at least.

Im going VU chem and Bio so i guess ill see you guys there
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: mojomojo on September 24, 2010, 10:25:15 pm
VATE and TSFX.

I've missed the free VU lectures =[ and no one is going with me. =[

Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 24, 2010, 10:26:10 pm
NEALE PETERS :D
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: darkphoenix on September 24, 2010, 11:11:07 pm
OMG Engage was shit today for methods..
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: minilunchbox on September 24, 2010, 11:13:45 pm
NEALE PETERS :D

He presented at the KLD lecture today so now I can't be bothered going to VU Chem one.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 24, 2010, 11:23:21 pm
The access chem guy sounds really good
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 24, 2010, 11:57:36 pm
NEALE PETERS :D

He presented at the KLD lecture today so now I can't be bothered going to VU Chem one.

So... is that because he was good? or bad?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: m@tty on September 24, 2010, 11:59:36 pm
He was pretty good for unit 3 at VU.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: minilunchbox on September 25, 2010, 12:33:22 am
NEALE PETERS :D

He presented at the KLD lecture today so now I can't be bothered going to VU Chem one.

So... is that because he was good? or bad?

VU's pretty inconvenient for me to get to and I don't see the benefit in listening to the same person twice. Also I'm supposed to have a holiday class on the same day and I'd probably benefit more from going to that.

He's good but a bit boring and very, very slow. Content is great.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 25, 2010, 12:58:51 am
NEALE PETERS :D

He presented at the KLD lecture today so now I can't be bothered going to VU Chem one.

So... is that because he was good? or bad?

VU's pretty inconvenient for me to get to and I don't see the benefit in listening to the same person twice. Also I'm supposed to have a holiday class on the same day and I'd probably benefit more from going to that.

He's good but a bit boring and very, very slow. Content is great.

i'm in the same boat. VU is frickin far, and i've got a chem school revision day on the same time. i'm hoping the lecture will be more beneficial though... would you say it would help if im clueless for chem? or is it better for those who are already good
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: Bohr on September 25, 2010, 01:30:59 am
So that's where everyone's been; at lectures. I missed you guys!
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: nabbiechan on September 25, 2010, 01:49:44 am
ESL - TSFX, VU(for english)
Methods - Derrick Ha, VU
Accounting  - VU, VCTA
Legal studies - VU

I thought of going to other lectures such as VATE, engage and some series 2 of tsfx but I'm really tired of going to too much now. I want to have more time exercising and have a healthy routine when studying during the holidays (the bundled lectures just made it unhealthy now :crazy2:)
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: samuch on September 25, 2010, 12:18:49 pm
how was KLD lectures anyone? i didnt go
the chem was good, he was boring but the notes were amazing
and methods just focused on probability which i didnt find that helpful since we just did it in class, but the lecturer was good
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: darkphoenix on September 25, 2010, 01:09:39 pm
Anyone gonna go VU english? Im thinking of skipping it.

I dont see how its going to be helpful? Three Hours and everyone is doing different texts/contexts.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 25, 2010, 01:10:46 pm
Anyone gonna go VU english? Im thinking of skipping it.

I dont see how its going to be helpful? Three Hours and everyone is doing different texts/contexts.

Yeah skip it, you'll regret going
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: liv on September 25, 2010, 01:35:42 pm
how was KLD lectures anyone? i didnt go

english was ..... very boring. but it seemed like a lot of kids didn't know much relating to exams so they all asked questions.
but chem was good. and i even sat in the physics lecture until i realize i was in the wrong lecture...it was good from what i saw too :)
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: darkphoenix on September 25, 2010, 02:27:47 pm
Anyone gonna go VU english? Im thinking of skipping it.

I dont see how its going to be helpful? Three Hours and everyone is doing different texts/contexts.

Yeah skip it, you'll regret going

Yeah not to mention the travel time going there and back (2 hours total public transport)
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: nabbiechan on September 25, 2010, 04:04:41 pm
planning of skipping English and methods for VU. I'm content enough.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: vexx on September 25, 2010, 04:17:10 pm
VATE - English Language

That iiiiit.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 25, 2010, 08:38:13 pm
LOPPOL sign up for VATE eng
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: kolol on September 25, 2010, 10:58:23 pm
LOPPOL sign up for VATE eng

Whose Reality is full for every session. =[
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: vexx on September 25, 2010, 11:45:43 pm
VATE - English Language

That iiiiit.

was/is it good?

haven't been yetttttt, but will be quite good i can imagine.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: crayolé on September 26, 2010, 01:32:02 am
Yepp, only VATE - English for me too ;]

Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: Bohr on September 26, 2010, 01:33:56 am
All lectures are a waste of time and monay, who else agrees with me?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 26, 2010, 01:54:18 am
All lectures are a waste of time and monay, who else agrees with me?

With the exception of one, DERRICK HA
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: iffets12345 on September 26, 2010, 08:53:03 pm
Um, I have his spesh book from last year, i couldn't find anything on variable force. does anyone know where it is.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 27, 2010, 06:28:18 pm
I just realised its going to be an epic bitch to get to VU footscray... Stupid public transport... 2 hours (and i live on the west side too) and i gotta go monash after that for access chem
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: m@tty on September 27, 2010, 06:33:32 pm
Um, I have his spesh book from last year, i couldn't find anything on variable force. does anyone know where it is.

There is an entire section on variable acceleration in this year's book. pg.73.

Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: sillysmile on September 27, 2010, 06:37:13 pm
I'm going to the VATE literature seminar... should be great.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: chrisjb on September 27, 2010, 07:11:07 pm
anyone find themselves at melbourne uni today for Engaged seminars? Legal Studies and I think Psychology was on. Legal was OK, but I could've probably given a more detailed lecture than the guy did... and it just draggeeeedddd ooonnnnnnnnn... 6 and a half hours is too long to be kept in a confined space.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: matt123 on September 27, 2010, 07:21:08 pm
im not going to any i dont think
i went to engage biology .. it was biggest waste of 7 hours of my life.
i would have learned more if i stood outside and watched my lemon tree grow.

i really wanna go to chem/english . but i feel like its just gonna be a waste of time
i went to chem mid year tsfx and it was also a waste of time and $100 lol

so idk man
wat u guys think?

also .. all the lectures are like ... now
do you know of any lectures closer to the exam?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: sillysmile on September 27, 2010, 07:24:04 pm
yeah I agree, engage psych was pretty bad too.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: matt123 on September 27, 2010, 07:27:18 pm
yeah I agree, engage psych was pretty bad too.

yeah i heard

but hey
i honestly give the bio engage one
1/10 if that.

they went over less than half the course
in shit detail
and crap lecturer
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 27, 2010, 07:32:22 pm
Yeah, i reckon the longer lectures especially from companies that aren't VATE/TSFX (tsfx is terrible on its on but they do a good longer lecture) are pretty terrible.

Go for the shorter ones i reckom, you go to lectures for a summary not getting the whole text book read to you again...

The guy for access chem sounds pretty good though, assessor since 1986
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: matt123 on September 27, 2010, 08:28:58 pm
Yeah, i reckon the longer lectures especially from companies that aren't VATE/TSFX (tsfx is terrible on its on but they do a good longer lecture) are pretty terrible.

Go for the shorter ones i reckom, you go to lectures for a summary not getting the whole text book read to you again...

The guy for access chem sounds pretty good though, assessor since 1986

acess chem is like . this week isnt it?
a bit too late to get tickets.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: Slumdawg on September 27, 2010, 09:10:14 pm
Yeah, i reckon the longer lectures especially from companies that aren't VATE/TSFX (tsfx is terrible on its on but they do a good longer lecture) are pretty terrible.

Go for the shorter ones i reckom, you go to lectures for a summary not getting the whole text book read to you again...

The guy for access chem sounds pretty good though, assessor since 1986

hmm that sounds like chris dwyer? I saw him at the pathways education chem lecture. He was pretty good, he basically just went through questions. Although he didn't manage his time well, so he had to skip the last quarter of the lecture basically. Having said that, it'd still be worth it to go.




acess chem is like . this week isnt it?
a bit too late to get tickets.

Pathways lecture is on the 10th of October so there is still heaps of time to apply. And it would basically be the same lecture.. Their psych one is really really awesome though.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: matt123 on September 27, 2010, 09:12:23 pm

[/quote]

hmm that sounds like chris dwyer? I saw him at the pathways education chem lecture. He was pretty good, he basically just went through questions. Although he didn't manage his time well, so he had to skip the last quarter of the lecture basically. Having said that, it'd still be worth it to go.




acess chem is like . this week isnt it?
a bit too late to get tickets.

Pathways lecture is on the 10th of October so there is still heaps of time to apply. And it would basically be the same lecture.. Their psych one is really really awesome though.
[/quote]

ive never heard of pathways
lol wth is it
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: minilunchbox on September 27, 2010, 09:23:38 pm
http://www.pathwayseducation.com.au/

I'm considering going Pathways to do Chem (but omg the presenters for the Psych one are so appealing. Damn you time clashes.)
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: Slumdawg on September 27, 2010, 09:28:31 pm
http://www.pathwayseducation.com.au/

I'm considering going Pathways to do Chem (but omg the presenters for the Psych one are so appealing. Damn you time clashes.)

Just letting you know now that the second lecturer for chem is bloody hilarious. Like the funniest lecturer I've ever seen! You'll probably be laughing more than learning about chem haha.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: matt123 on September 27, 2010, 09:31:30 pm
to be completely honest
ive been to many lectures

access/tsfx/neap/engage/some "VCE" one / some lecture from the guy who wrote the psychology book / some other random chem one.

none of which where worth the time or money.

2.5 - 7 hours of nonsense

i HIGHLY DISCOURAGE anyone to go to engage ... srsly ur better of sitting at home watching ants have sex.. u will learn more about inheritance/genes ....

bio engage lecture was honestly biggest waste of time possible.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: Andiio on September 27, 2010, 09:35:09 pm
Are the VU very high quality or something? O_O Most people on VN are going to at least one VU lecture, haha.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 27, 2010, 09:36:12 pm
Are the VU very high quality or something? O_O Most people on VN are going to at least one VU lecture, haha.

Maybe just cos it's free and took about 5 seconds to sign up for 2198361293 lectures
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: minilunchbox on September 27, 2010, 09:39:39 pm
to be completely honest
ive been to many lectures

access/tsfx/neap/engage/some "VCE" one / some lecture from the guy who wrote the psychology book / some other random chem one.

none of which where worth the time or money.

2.5 - 7 hours of nonsense

i HIGHLY DISCOURAGE anyone to go to engage ... srsly ur better of sitting at home watching ants have sex.. u will learn more about inheritance/genes ....

bio engage lecture was honestly biggest waste of time possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSW9kWIRCOQ

I feel like I learnt more bio from watching this youtube video (SLUG SEX) last year than going to the Engage/VCEseminars bio lectures. SERIOUSLY IF YOU DO BIO WATCH THIS VIDEO... because it's cool, not too sure about it's actual usefulness for the exam.

Are the VU very high quality or something? O_O Most people on VN are going to at least one VU lecture, haha.

VU are free. And honestly, their lecturers are actually very good.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: Andiio on September 27, 2010, 09:49:58 pm
Oh sweet, could anyone give me the link to the VU lectures? (Even though i'm only in year 11)

Thanks!
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: minilunchbox on September 27, 2010, 09:57:50 pm
http://www.vu.edu.au/future-students/secondary-schools/year-11-and-12-students/vce-summary-lectures

They're only for Unit 4.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: chrisjb on September 27, 2010, 09:57:57 pm
I reccon that going to lectures is almost completely pointless, unless you're going there for the notes (which you can easily get off sites like this) or trying somehow to kickstart your revision (in which case the lectures are about two or three weeks too late)... it's stupid to think that a seven hour lecture can consolidate the ideas you learnt over one and a half semesters of school, it's impossible to go into enough detail in that time.

They're only really effective for people who haven't paid enough attention in class all year and want to salvage something for the exam (a category which most people on this site don't fall into) and the study tips they tell us all are things we either have already been told over and over again (if I’m told one more time how to interpret the words 'critically examine' I’m going to kill someone), or stuff which we have figured out ourselves.

Just what I think.... and my experience is rather narrow (and yes, I have forked out about $130 this year for lectures... just in case :P)
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: chrisjb on September 27, 2010, 09:59:05 pm
... I feel sufficiently vented.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: iffets12345 on September 27, 2010, 10:09:38 pm
Well for English its good cause u get a different perspective on the texts ur doing. Calm down, you're in year 11 dude.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: darkphoenix on September 27, 2010, 11:04:53 pm
to be completely honest
ive been to many lectures

access/tsfx/neap/engage/some "VCE" one / some lecture from the guy who wrote the psychology book / some other random chem one.

none of which where worth the time or money.

2.5 - 7 hours of nonsense

i HIGHLY DISCOURAGE anyone to go to engage ... srsly ur better of sitting at home watching ants have sex.. u will learn more about inheritance/genes ....

bio engage lecture was honestly biggest waste of time possible.

Yes I completely agree LOL engage is so shit.

Complete waste of time. Methods lecturer was so bad, went so slowly and so many mistakes in the notes.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: kyzoo on September 27, 2010, 11:10:23 pm
it's stupid to think that a seven hour lecture can consolidate the ideas you learnt over one and a half semesters of school, it's impossible to go into enough detail in that time.

0.o I summarized Chem and Physics under 5 hours. I reckon that if you worked hard enough, you only need a single month to learn the entire Unit 4 for either subject, probably less.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: chrisjb on September 27, 2010, 11:12:41 pm
Calm down, you're in year 11 dude.

i like to pretend that i'm doing the real vce year... it makes my life seem more important.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 27, 2010, 11:13:44 pm
Yeah, lucky i stayed away from engage (mainly because they started so early and i was disorganised to book)....

I'm not sure if im going to go to a bio one besides VU, anyone else going to any bio ones?

chrisjb, i still reckon the idea of lectures arent all that bad, especially the shorter ones. I myself still haven't finished my revision (shock horror) and the more you constantly revise something and hear it, keep it on the top of your mind, the more you remember it. (according to tsfx (this was backed up by a proper scientific study) you learn more by listening and seeing than by reading/writing your own notes, so unless you're fond of talking to yourself (another tsfx suggestion... people take these too seriously... i know a chick who teaches her pencil case).

3 Hours certainly won't blow a huge hole in your study schedule, for me especially i procrastinate a lot when im at home anyway, which is why i go to the library to study (haven't been lately which explains the little work i got done) time i spent at home would of been semi-procrastinated (im sure this holds true for most people) and you're forced to pick up stuff for a good solid 3 hours.

So, i reckon the shorter lectures are good for resfreshers/helping revision/keeping stuff ontop of your head (or if you had a really shitty teacher... my IT teacher told us no theory all year... just how to do the practical sacs... but we dont do the exam on computer... so its all theory)

Anyway once again - I'm not sure if im going to go to a bio one besides VU, anyone else going to any bio ones?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 27, 2010, 11:15:36 pm
0.o I summarized Chem and Physics under 5 hours. I reckon that if you worked hard enough, you only need a single month to learn the entire Unit 4 for either subject, probably less.

Chem isn't extremely dense on theory (if you haven't noticed already, if you have heineman flick through the book and read the chapters, theres actually not all that much huge chunks of theory... a chapter is what like 30 pages.. some are like 15... compare it to biology with hugely massive chapters and heaps of theory) so i reckon, if you put even a solid week into it, you could get a decent amount of understanding.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: taiga on September 27, 2010, 11:17:24 pm
it's stupid to think that a seven hour lecture can consolidate the ideas you learnt over one and a half semesters of school, it's impossible to go into enough detail in that time.

0.o I summarized Chem and Physics under 5 hours. I reckon that if you worked hard enough, you only need a single month to learn the entire Unit 4 for either subject, probably less.

This, it's a terrible rumour that leaving things till late never works. There is always time :D

I finished off the physics course for midyears the day before exams making up my laziness throughout the year by doing 11 exams the day before the exam, i got a pretty decent mark as well :D
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 27, 2010, 11:24:08 pm
This, it's a terrible rumour that leaving things till late never works. There is always time :D

Haha, same.

I get all my best work done in the last minute.

Stress actually motivates me to get off my ass and do something instead of breaking down into a heap like some people, it works well for me cause im lazy half the time
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: minilunchbox on September 27, 2010, 11:31:20 pm
Lectures are good for notes (depends on subject) and sometimes hearing things from another person makes some things so much clearer. But I wouldn't shell out too much money for them.

I've only been to a lot because so far I've spent a grand total of $20 for the entire year (and I went to 6 for midyears and planning to go to around ~8 (which would mean an extra $46) for end of year).

Obviously the quality of the lectures I go to are not on the level of DERRICK HA THE SUPERGENIUS/GOD. But I make do.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 27, 2010, 11:33:48 pm
Yeah around 40 bucks or less is what you want to be paying... not like the prices TSFX charges...such a rip off.. how do they manage to get any business
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: kyzoo on September 27, 2010, 11:34:09 pm
it's stupid to think that a seven hour lecture can consolidate the ideas you learnt over one and a half semesters of school, it's impossible to go into enough detail in that time.

0.o I summarized Chem and Physics under 5 hours. I reckon that if you worked hard enough, you only need a single month to learn the entire Unit 4 for either subject, probably less.

This, it's a terrible rumour that leaving things till late never works. There is always time :D

I finished off the physics course for midyears the day before exams making up my laziness throughout the year by doing 11 exams the day before the exam, i got a pretty decent mark as well :D

Seriously? You did 11 exams in one day? It took me more than 2 weeks to do that 0.o

And for lectures...I have only gone to the one held for KLD (Kwong Lee Dow)/Extension Program students, and English/Physics was a waste of time.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: iffets12345 on September 28, 2010, 11:21:46 am
lol in chem, there are like 4 chapters you don't even need/ skim over slightly. The chemical waste and all those other chemicals that aren't your study.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 28, 2010, 11:49:35 am
Whose going to VU chem?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 28, 2010, 03:47:34 pm
Whose going to VU chem?
Me probably, but 2 hours to get there... then i gotta rush to access chem

Who was at VU biology today?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: liv on September 28, 2010, 04:35:07 pm
Whose going to VU chem?
Me probably, but 2 hours to get there... then i gotta rush to access chem

Who was at VU biology today?

*puts hand up*

did you like kevin o'leary?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 28, 2010, 04:49:15 pm
Haha yeah he is funny (sometimes) but that chick with the inappropriately long and loud laugh got annoying sometimes when he made a joke.

I went to his midyears and he was ok for that too.

Felt rushed in some parts where he just said the headings of a section and not saying/explaining what was in them but it was ok

How did you find it?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: liv on September 28, 2010, 05:08:01 pm
i liked it, but i was near the front so i only heard that girl when she laughed really really loud (i didn't even think she was actually finding everything that funny until she kept laughing...)

i liked it, considering my teacher hasn't finished the course yet, so i learned quite a bit about evolution.

and i can't believe VU made him take all the diagrams out of his notes this time...the mid year ones were amazing.

wish he was my teacher.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 28, 2010, 05:19:15 pm
The midyear i recall had a lot of his stuff missing too.

I was sort of in the middle, like three rows from the mini-wall behind that front row of seats.

We also haven't finished haha so i learnt a lot about human evolution too

He makes it seem so simple and condensed down with his notes, he has been an assessor for like 20 years or something which makes him pretty awesome i guess

Going vu chem?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: liv on September 28, 2010, 05:32:44 pm
wish i was, but because we havent finished the bio course our teacher scheduled a class on that day >.<
but i might skip it. just ot annoy him.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 28, 2010, 07:08:48 pm
Gotta leave home at like 6am to get to VU chem... taking into account all the possible routes where i can get lost
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 28, 2010, 10:48:13 pm
Where do you live?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 28, 2010, 10:52:49 pm
S.E suburbs, near the end of the line
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 28, 2010, 10:56:45 pm
I live a 30 minutes drive away but due to the fantastic public transport... gonna take 2 hours..you going to any other chem lectures? if you are skip VU i reckon
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: darkphoenix on September 28, 2010, 10:57:25 pm
Anyone going VU Methods tomorrow on the Glen Waverley line?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 28, 2010, 10:59:14 pm
Haha how much you bet at least one of us will get lost?

If i dont ge tlost around/ going VU ill definetly get lost going access chem in clayton.. never been anywhere near clayton before ever
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: taiga on September 28, 2010, 11:02:18 pm
mother taiga just informed me i am going to access on thursday on chem :X

its good i hear?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: superflya on September 28, 2010, 11:06:23 pm
access are pathetic.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 28, 2010, 11:06:41 pm
:S I shoulda booked another chem one. only going to VU. hope it's worth the total 5 hours travel time...
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: darkphoenix on September 28, 2010, 11:11:07 pm
Haha how much you bet at least one of us will get lost?

If i dont ge tlost around/ going VU ill definetly get lost going access chem in clayton.. never been anywhere near clayton before ever

Haha yeah i reckon. Footscray is so hard to find, monash clayton is easy to find :P
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: taiga on September 28, 2010, 11:15:59 pm
access are pathetic.

damn :(
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 29, 2010, 08:02:53 pm
You reckon its worth going to VU chem and Access chem or should i just skip VU
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 29, 2010, 08:20:25 pm
You reckon its worth going to VU chem and Access chem or should i just skip VU

Only reason i'm not skipping VU is because the lecturer is meant to be superfantasticular good, so don't skip it just incase he is all he's cooked up to be
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: physics on September 29, 2010, 08:36:21 pm
there are freebies and physics VU was goody :)
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 29, 2010, 08:37:17 pm
So is the access chem guy:
Christopher Dwyer is a highly respected chemistry educator with over thirty years’ experience in teaching VCE Chemistry at Vermont Secondary College where he formerly served as Year 12 Coordinator and Head of Senior School. He has been a VCE Chemistry Assessor since 1986 and continues in that role. He has co-authored a number of chemistry texts and has delivered revision lectures for VCE students for over 20 years. He has also been involved in the transitional program for VCE Chemistry students preparing themselves for first year Chemistry at Monash University.  Chris also teaches Enhancement Chemistry.

I guess it cant hurt but then i cant get much sleeep
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: taiga on September 29, 2010, 08:38:53 pm
I think I'm going to access physics tomorrow.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 29, 2010, 08:39:16 pm
HOW... DO... YOU GET TO VU
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: vea on September 29, 2010, 08:47:07 pm
So is the access chem guy:
Christopher Dwyer is a highly respected chemistry educator with over thirty years’ experience in teaching VCE Chemistry at Vermont Secondary College where he formerly served as Year 12 Coordinator and Head of Senior School. He has been a VCE Chemistry Assessor since 1986 and continues in that role. He has co-authored a number of chemistry texts and has delivered revision lectures for VCE students for over 20 years. He has also been involved in the transitional program for VCE Chemistry students preparing themselves for first year Chemistry at Monash University.  Chris also teaches Enhancement Chemistry.

I guess it cant hurt but then i cant get much sleeep

Vermont isn't the best school but he sounds like he could be the diamond in the rough. :p
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: m@tty on September 29, 2010, 08:50:26 pm
HOW... DO... YOU GET TO VU

Train to city -> train to Footscray -> 10 min walk to VU.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: superflya on September 29, 2010, 08:51:16 pm
HOW... DO... YOU GET TO VU

get off at footscray station and hop on footscrays ONLY tram, get off once u see vu which is like 4 or so stops from the station.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 29, 2010, 08:54:38 pm
How do you know which way on the tram?
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: superflya on September 29, 2010, 08:56:23 pm
How do you know which way on the tram?

it gets to the station then goes backwards. just hop on, u cant get lost :P
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 29, 2010, 08:59:59 pm
How do you know which way on the tram?

it gets to the station then goes backwards. just hop on, u cant get lost :P

If i get lost... :knuppel2:
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: superflya on September 29, 2010, 09:05:39 pm
How do you know which way on the tram?

it gets to the station then goes backwards. just hop on, u cant get lost :P

If i get lost... :knuppel2:

ohh god if u actually do ;D
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: physics on September 29, 2010, 09:07:54 pm
catch the 406 for the last time!
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 29, 2010, 09:59:46 pm
Im walking it, its only like 12 minutes
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 29, 2010, 10:00:28 pm
Im walking it, its only like 12 minutes

I'm too fat, won't make it
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: m@tty on September 29, 2010, 10:09:15 pm
Im walking it, its only like 12 minutes

Good man.

I'm walking it, its only like 12 minutes.

I'm too fat, won't make it

You could roll instead.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: superflya on September 29, 2010, 10:11:04 pm
why on earth would u want to walk, its footscray..
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: m@tty on September 29, 2010, 10:12:20 pm
It's also daytime..
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 29, 2010, 10:18:17 pm
why on earth would u want to walk, its footscray..

^THIS!!
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 30, 2010, 12:06:39 am
For mid years he went like half an hour over or more haha people got so drained and there were like heaps of parents outside the door
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 30, 2010, 12:06:59 am
why on earth would u want to walk, its footscray..
You clearly dont live in the west haha
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: darkphoenix on September 30, 2010, 12:20:31 am
Hopefully theres alot of people going VU chem tmr, so we can just follow the crowd!
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 30, 2010, 10:20:51 am
Haha i think i missed the bus so im going to skip VU unless i get there inappropriately late
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 30, 2010, 03:59:49 pm
The lecture was quite good... it took me an hour walking around foots to get there but the notes rock. Everyone started walking out at 1 and made Neale Peters lose concentration. ie. [Neale Peters] decreased
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: Duck on September 30, 2010, 04:09:36 pm
The lecture was quite good... it took me an hour walking around foots to get there but the notes rock. Everyone started walking out at 1 and made Neale Peters lose concentration. ie. [Neale Peters] decreased
Well clearly if Neale Peters + Teaching <----> Students + Knowledge

Then a decrease in [students] and [knowledge] will force the forward reaction.
Terrible joke. I apoligise profusely.
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: 98.40_for_sure on September 30, 2010, 04:13:12 pm
The lecture was quite good... it took me an hour walking around foots to get there but the notes rock. Everyone started walking out at 1 and made Neale Peters lose concentration. ie. [Neale Peters] decreased
Well clearly if Neale Peters + Teaching <----> Students + Knowledge

Then a decrease in [students] and [knowledge] will force the forward reaction.
Terrible joke. I apoligise profusely.

Hahahah i admire your attempt
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: linahh123 on September 30, 2010, 04:27:55 pm
I felt so weird leaving at 1 especially when i had to throw things into the bin b4 leaving and every1 looks when you get up to walk out =="
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on September 30, 2010, 08:18:01 pm
Access was meh... just cause he's been an assessor since 80's doesn't mean he's good (i learnt that)
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: superflya on September 30, 2010, 08:30:07 pm
VU was ordinary but omfggg never seen a more enthusiastic lecturer -___-
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: darkphoenix on September 30, 2010, 10:51:29 pm
I felt so weird leaving at 1 especially when i had to throw things into the bin b4 leaving and every1 looks when you get up to walk out =="

I think you were sitting in the row in front of me..LOL

Hm yeah chem today was okay, missed the train and came in late then accidentally knocked over someones drink bottle  ::)
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: slothpomba on October 01, 2010, 02:00:47 pm
I was like 2nd row on the left for access if anyone else was there
Title: Re: What lectures is everyone going to?
Post by: jackson1234 on November 29, 2010, 05:19:16 pm
So is the access chem guy:
Christopher Dwyer is a highly respected chemistry educator with over thirty years’ experience in teaching VCE Chemistry at Vermont Secondary College where he formerly served as Year 12 Coordinator and Head of Senior School. He has been a VCE Chemistry Assessor since 1986 and continues in that role. He has co-authored a number of chemistry texts and has delivered revision lectures for VCE students for over 20 years. He has also been involved in the transitional program for VCE Chemistry students preparing themselves for first year Chemistry at Monash University.  Chris also teaches Enhancement Chemistry.

I guess it cant hurt but then i cant get much sleeep

Vermont isn't the best school but he sounds like he could be the diamond in the rough. :p

Lol Vermont is prestigious for its chem.