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Title: Chances of 40 raw despite c+ in midyear? o_O
Post by: c.k.n on October 06, 2010, 11:37:24 pm
anyone know if i have any chance of getting 40 raw despite my crappy midyear score? i averaged low-mid A+ in unit 3 sacs, and have done two sacs in unit 4 which have been both 40/40.
Title: Re: Chances of 40 raw despite c+ in midyear? o_O
Post by: taiga on October 06, 2010, 11:41:20 pm
i think its about 0 unless you got a derived score. Even full marks would get you like a 38 tops =\
Title: Re: Chances of 40 raw despite c+ in midyear? o_O
Post by: 8039 on October 07, 2010, 03:02:07 am
I'm in the same boat. And no there is absolutely no chance. You may have a chance of getting 35-36 if you get an A+ given your good SAC results. Mine went down quite significantly once I received my result and stopped giving a crap lol.

Also remember that Psychology gets scaled down 3-4 points... so to get 40 you need like 43 (top 7% in the state).

Screw psychology lmao.
Title: Re: Chances of 40 raw despite c+ in midyear? o_O
Post by: studying_hard on October 07, 2010, 07:52:19 am
i got an A on midyear. with a high A+ on the exam what range could I get for a ss?
Title: Re: Chances of 40 raw despite c+ in midyear? o_O
Post by: lolbox on October 07, 2010, 07:54:40 am
with an A+ you could get anywhere from 38 - 45. depending on SAC results and how high the A+ is (full marks obviously being the 45)
Title: Re: Chances of 40 raw despite c+ in midyear? o_O
Post by: akira88 on October 07, 2010, 03:57:09 pm
I'm in the same boat. And no there is absolutely no chance. You may have a chance of getting 35-36 if you get an A+ given your good SAC results. Mine went down quite significantly once I received my result and stopped giving a crap lol.

Also remember that Psychology gets scaled down 3-4 points... so to get 40 you need like 43 (top 7% in the state).

Screw psychology lmao.
I thought psychology scaled down by 2 at an SS of 30, and only by 1 at an SS of 4. (Unless you were talking about scaling for scores lower than 30, then you could be right).
with an A+ you could get anywhere from 38 - 45. depending on SAC results and how high the A+ is (full marks obviously being the 45)
I personally don't think you can get 45 after getting an A on the midyear, despite even getting full marks. 45 is pushing it, perhaps a 41 or 42 max.
Title: Re: Chances of 40 raw despite c+ in midyear? o_O
Post by: masonnnn on October 07, 2010, 07:40:16 pm
same boat as you akira... i got A on the midyear after being top of the class in sacs (dropped one mark) and kept that up unit 4...
need to not collapse under exam pressure.
Title: Re: Chances of 40 raw despite c+ in midyear? o_O
Post by: Pumpkinator on October 07, 2010, 08:16:45 pm
I'm in the same boat. And no there is absolutely no chance. You may have a chance of getting 35-36 if you get an A+ given your good SAC results. Mine went down quite significantly once I received my result and stopped giving a crap lol.

Also remember that Psychology gets scaled down 3-4 points... so to get 40 you need like 43 (top 7% in the state).

Screw psychology lmao.
I thought psychology scaled down by 2 at an SS of 30, and only by 1 at an SS of 4. (Unless you were talking about scaling for scores lower than 30, then you could be right).
with an A+ you could get anywhere from 38 - 45. depending on SAC results and how high the A+ is (full marks obviously being the 45)
I personally don't think you can get 45 after getting an A on the midyear, despite even getting full marks. 45 is pushing it, perhaps a 41 or 42 max.

41 or 42 max, is that assuming that the mid year mark was a low, medium or high A?
Title: Re: Chances of 40 raw despite c+ in midyear? o_O
Post by: taiga on October 07, 2010, 08:23:19 pm
I'm in the same boat. And no there is absolutely no chance. You may have a chance of getting 35-36 if you get an A+ given your good SAC results. Mine went down quite significantly once I received my result and stopped giving a crap lol.

Also remember that Psychology gets scaled down 3-4 points... so to get 40 you need like 43 (top 7% in the state).

Screw psychology lmao.
I thought psychology scaled down by 2 at an SS of 30, and only by 1 at an SS of 4. (Unless you were talking about scaling for scores lower than 30, then you could be right).
with an A+ you could get anywhere from 38 - 45. depending on SAC results and how high the A+ is (full marks obviously being the 45)
I personally don't think you can get 45 after getting an A on the midyear, despite even getting full marks. 45 is pushing it, perhaps a 41 or 42 max.

So if you got two As and an A+ you would think that the max study score you could get is 32/33 ?

Depending on standard deviations and means etc, the general maximum study score you can get with the highest possible A, and two of the highest possible A+s (for a study which has 33% contributions from each), is around 46.
Title: Re: Chances of 40 raw despite c+ in midyear? o_O
Post by: akira88 on October 07, 2010, 09:20:30 pm
I'm in the same boat. And no there is absolutely no chance. You may have a chance of getting 35-36 if you get an A+ given your good SAC results. Mine went down quite significantly once I received my result and stopped giving a crap lol.

Also remember that Psychology gets scaled down 3-4 points... so to get 40 you need like 43 (top 7% in the state).

Screw psychology lmao.
I thought psychology scaled down by 2 at an SS of 30, and only by 1 at an SS of 4. (Unless you were talking about scaling for scores lower than 30, then you could be right).
with an A+ you could get anywhere from 38 - 45. depending on SAC results and how high the A+ is (full marks obviously being the 45)
I personally don't think you can get 45 after getting an A on the midyear, despite even getting full marks. 45 is pushing it, perhaps a 41 or 42 max.

So if you got two As and an A+ you would think that the max study score you could get is 32/33 ?

Depending on standard deviations and means etc, the general maximum study score you can get with the highest possible A, and two of the highest possible A+s (for a study which has 33% contributions from each), is around 46.
I'm confused, I don't think I mentioned a 32/33?
I know of someone who got 2 of the highest As and an A+ (not sure how high the A+ was though) and got only a 39. I just don't want anyone to become too complacent (but then again I don't want to worry anyone either...)
But if you say that they can get up to 46, it's pretty ambitious, especially for psychology :P
Title: Re: Chances of 40 raw despite c+ in midyear? o_O
Post by: Spreadbury on October 07, 2010, 11:17:59 pm
say you got the two lowest possible A+'s for both exams and were decently ranked in sacs (top several students). would it be unreasonable to hope for a 40?
Title: Re: Chances of 40 raw despite c+ in midyear? o_O
Post by: 8039 on October 07, 2010, 11:38:57 pm
say you got the two lowest possible A+'s for both exams and were decently ranked in sacs (top several students). would it be unreasonable to hope for a 40?

9% get over 40, 9% get over A+. Put two and two together.
Title: Re: Chances of 40 raw despite c+ in midyear? o_O
Post by: minilunchbox on October 07, 2010, 11:50:07 pm
say you got the two lowest possible A+'s for both exams and were decently ranked in sacs (top several students). would it be unreasonable to hope for a 40?

9% get over 40, 9% get over A+. Put two and two together.

Actually I think 10-11% get over A+ which is why it's possible to get 3 A+'s and get under 40.
Title: Re: Chances of 40 raw despite c+ in midyear? o_O
Post by: 8039 on October 08, 2010, 12:01:29 am
say you got the two lowest possible A+'s for both exams and were decently ranked in sacs (top several students). would it be unreasonable to hope for a 40?

9% get over 40, 9% get over A+. Put two and two together.

Actually I think 10-11% get over A+ which is why it's possible to get 3 A+'s and get under 40.

I'm pretty sure they can only allow 9% to be A+. I'm not cemented in my opinion tho.
Title: Re: Chances of 40 raw despite c+ in midyear? o_O
Post by: m@tty on October 08, 2010, 12:14:38 am
That is definitely incorrect; the percentage of students who get A+ fluctuates year to year and subject to subject. The range I've seen, from memory, is 7-13.