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Title: Statics Question V
Post by: wildareal on October 07, 2010, 09:37:18 pm
If a boat is being pulled by two forces, of 40 kg wt towards the east and 30 kg wt to the
north-west, what third force must be acting on the boat if it remains stationary? Give the
magnitude and direction. Thanks.
Title: Re: Statics Question V
Post by: luken93 on October 07, 2010, 09:40:50 pm
How bad is statics!
Draw out the diagram, and then use sine/cosine rule to find angle/length

Hope that helps
Title: Re: Statics Question V
Post by: wildareal on October 07, 2010, 09:42:54 pm
How bad is statics!
Draw out the diagram, and then use sine/cosine rule to find angle/length

Hope that helps
Haha yer! I think with this question you draw a triangle with side T1, 40kgwt and angle 45* and solve, since the unknown is gravity as the two other forces NW and E.
Title: Re: Statics Question V
Post by: Chavi on October 07, 2010, 09:43:37 pm
take the i direction (east): 40 - 30cos(45) + F = 0
so F= (15(sqrt(2))-40)i

Take the j direction (north): 30sin45 + F=
so F=-15sqrt(2)j

add them together and you get F=(15(sqrt(2))-40)i - 15sqrt(2)j

then simply use tank(y/x) for the angle, and the magnitude is easy peasy yr 10 math
Title: Re: Statics Question V
Post by: wildareal on October 07, 2010, 09:44:28 pm
take the i direction (east): 40 - 30cos(45) + F = 0
so F= (15(sqrt(2))-40)i

Take the j direction (north): 30sin45 + F=
so F=-15sqrt(2)j

add them together and you get F=(15(sqrt(2))-40)i - 15sqrt(2)j

That looks good. Did you make East the i axis and N the j axis?
Title: Re: Statics Question V
Post by: wildareal on October 07, 2010, 09:44:57 pm
take the i direction (east): 40 - 30cos(45) + F = 0
so F= (15(sqrt(2))-40)i

Take the j direction (north): 30sin45 + F=
so F=-15sqrt(2)j

add them together and you get F=(15(sqrt(2))-40)i - 15sqrt(2)j

That looks good. Did you make East the i axis and N the j axis?

You sure did! Thanks!
Title: Re: Statics Question V
Post by: Chavi on October 07, 2010, 09:45:29 pm
How bad is statics!
Draw out the diagram, and then use sine/cosine rule to find angle/length

Hope that helps
Haha yer! I think with this question you draw a triangle with side T1, 40kgwt and angle 45* and solve, since the unknown is gravity as the two other forces NW and E.
btw, gravity isn't involved - the boat isn't in free fall - it's being pulled perpendicular to the earth's surface
Title: Re: Statics Question V
Post by: wildareal on October 07, 2010, 09:46:50 pm
Yes that makes sense. Does that mean there is a normal force on the water?
Title: Re: Statics Question V
Post by: luken93 on October 07, 2010, 09:54:55 pm
Was the attached the right way to do it if I remember correctly?
Title: Re: Statics Question V
Post by: Chavi on October 07, 2010, 10:02:07 pm
Yes that makes sense. Does that mean there is a normal force on the water?
Yes there is a normal force, (*and strictly speaking, buoyancy effects and water drag should be taken into account*), but you can disregard all upward/downward motion completely for the purposes of this question (and any similar questions in the VCE spec course). Just deal with a point on a flat Cartesian plain.