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Title: No breadth anymore?
Post by: Mao on October 26, 2010, 11:29:55 pm
Are my fb sources reliable?
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: The Detective on October 26, 2010, 11:33:50 pm
I hope not... or else its monash for me
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: Edmund on October 26, 2010, 11:34:23 pm
Reduced requirements
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: Noblesse on October 27, 2010, 01:13:36 am
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,28278.0.html
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: rustic_metal on October 27, 2010, 01:13:32 pm
You can now take anywhere between 4 and 6 breadth subjects. For diploma students, actuarial students and a few others, this can eliminate breadth altogether.
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 27, 2010, 06:19:10 pm
Reduced requirements

http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,28278.0.html

I can confirm that these two comments are true to the best of my ability.

So in conclusion, yes, your fb contacts are reliable (to some point).
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: kamil9876 on October 28, 2010, 11:42:47 pm
What's a good breadth to do over summer? (i have already done a third year one so my last one can be anything).
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: rustic_metal on October 28, 2010, 11:45:32 pm
Wine!
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: TrueTears on October 28, 2010, 11:49:23 pm
What's a good breadth to do over summer? (i have already done a third year one so my last one can be anything).
what maths HAVE you done over the summer btw?
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: kamil9876 on October 29, 2010, 05:15:26 pm
Wine!

Yeah I was thinking of doing that except that you have to go to Dookie Campus for that I think?

@TT: They offer fuck all over summer, hence my question.
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: name on October 29, 2010, 06:39:49 pm
Wine!

Yeah I was thinking of doing that except that you have to go to Dookie Campus for that I think?
It gets taught at the  Burnley campus.
2011, Burnley
This subject commences in the following study period/s:
July - Taught on campus.
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 29, 2010, 06:48:43 pm
What's a good breadth to do over summer? (i have already done a third year one so my last one can be anything).
what maths HAVE you done over the summer btw?

Unfortunately not many maths subjects are officially offered over the summer.

What's a good breadth to do over summer? (i have already done a third year one so my last one can be anything).

Finance 1?
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: Russ on October 29, 2010, 07:04:59 pm
Pretty sure it's taught in february
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: binders on October 29, 2010, 07:14:55 pm
Latin! ;)
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: asa.hoshi on October 29, 2010, 07:43:08 pm
Wine!

Yeah I was thinking of doing that except that you have to go to Dookie Campus for that I think?

@TT: They offer fuck all over summer, hence my question.
lol i did it in winter. its not easy! (to get good marks that is...)
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: jasrulz63 on October 29, 2010, 07:53:50 pm

Finance 1?


Ooo, I'm doing Finance 1 over summer! First commerce subject I've taken at uni (I'm a science student), hope it's alright. I did accounting at VCE and did ok.
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 30, 2010, 05:09:56 pm

Finance 1?


Ooo, I'm doing Finance 1 over summer! First commerce subject I've taken at uni (I'm a science student), hope it's alright. I did accounting at VCE and did ok.

I might be joining you.  :)  But that is a very big "might".

Other than that kamil, if finance doesn't tickle your fancy, accounting perhaps? 
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: TrueTears on October 30, 2010, 09:02:40 pm
Wine!

Yeah I was thinking of doing that except that you have to go to Dookie Campus for that I think?

@TT: They offer fuck all over summer, hence my question.
wow, i thought UoM would offer some good maths units over summer lol
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: rustic_metal on October 30, 2010, 11:03:23 pm
Wine!

Yeah I was thinking of doing that except that you have to go to Dookie Campus for that I think?

@TT: They offer fuck all over summer, hence my question.
wow, i thought UoM would offer some good maths units over summer lol

Linear algebra is offered over summer. So is eng maths, but that has an extra prereq.
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: TrueTears on October 30, 2010, 11:43:35 pm
ohhh right i see, by eng maths you mean engineering maths yeah? that's not too bad.
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: AzureBlue on October 31, 2010, 04:55:56 pm
You can now take anywhere between 4 and 6 breadth subjects. For diploma students, actuarial students and a few others, this can eliminate breadth altogether.
What about Actuarial students who are also doing a concurrent diploma? This is so confusing... :(
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 31, 2010, 05:01:07 pm
Wine!

Yeah I was thinking of doing that except that you have to go to Dookie Campus for that I think?

@TT: They offer fuck all over summer, hence my question.
wow, i thought UoM would offer some good maths units over summer lol

That would be awesome for those people who are going to fail a maths subjects and don't have to wait until semester 1 to repeat.  But other than that, like rustic said, only linear algebra and engineering maths are offered over summer.
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: rustic_metal on October 31, 2010, 05:30:45 pm
You can now take anywhere between 4 and 6 breadth subjects. For diploma students, actuarial students and a few others, this can eliminate breadth altogether.
What about Actuarial students who are also doing a concurrent diploma? This is so confusing... :(

You can cross-credit up to 50 points of study, so if four of your diploma subjects can be taken as part of your BCom breadth, you can cross credit all of them and not have to do any breadth. This would leave you with 20 BCom subjects and your 8 diploma subjects all up. Alternatively you can decide not to cross-credit anything and do four extra breadth subjects (what I'm doing).
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: AzureBlue on October 31, 2010, 05:48:28 pm
You can cross-credit up to 50 points of study, so if four of your diploma subjects can be taken as part of your BCom breadth, you can cross credit all of them and not have to do any breadth. This would leave you with 20 BCom subjects and your 8 diploma subjects all up. Alternatively you can decide not to cross-credit anything and do four extra breadth subjects (what I'm doing).
The mainly confusing thing is if the 3 breadth subjects are non-maths or not. Since most maths and actuarial subjects are not offered over summer semester, it'll probably add an extra year, seeing as you need to fit Group Theory with Linear Algebra (2nd year), Complex Analysis, Metric & Hilbert Spaces, Algebra and Graph Theory (all 3rd year) if majoring in pure mathematics. If they are all just normal breadth subjects then through cross-crediting 37.5 pts and overloading 2 subjects in 3rd year it may be possible. I don't mind if it does add an extra year, but would prefer it not to because I'll just have a year where I've got about 3 subjects then.
Are you doing an extra year to finish up your degree & diploma?
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: rustic_metal on October 31, 2010, 08:37:17 pm
You can cross-credit up to 50 points of study, so if four of your diploma subjects can be taken as part of your BCom breadth, you can cross credit all of them and not have to do any breadth. This would leave you with 20 BCom subjects and your 8 diploma subjects all up. Alternatively you can decide not to cross-credit anything and do four extra breadth subjects (what I'm doing).


The mainly confusing thing is if the 3 breadth subjects are non-maths or not. Since most maths and actuarial subjects are not offered over summer semester, it'll probably add an extra year, seeing as you need to fit Group Theory with Linear Algebra (2nd year), Complex Analysis, Metric & Hilbert Spaces, Algebra and Graph Theory (all 3rd year) if majoring in pure mathematics. If they are all just normal breadth subjects then through cross-crediting 37.5 pts and overloading 2 subjects in 3rd year it may be possible. I don't mind if it does add an extra year, but would prefer it not to because I'll just have a year where I've got about 3 subjects then.
Are you doing an extra year to finish up your degree & diploma?

Yeah, not adding an extra year is unrealistic. The best you can really hope for is finishing a semester early.

I'm adding an extra year to mine because it allows me to double major in both electrical and mechanical engineering - rather than just the one - and because it allows me to take my 4 breadth subjects. I like uni, so I don't mind staying here longer. :P
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: AzureBlue on October 31, 2010, 08:51:53 pm
Yeah, not adding an extra year is unrealistic. The best you can really hope for is finishing a semester early.
I'm adding an extra year to mine because it allows me to double major in both electrical and mechanical engineering - rather than just the one - and because it allows me to take my 4 breadth subjects. I like uni, so I don't mind staying here longer. :P
Ok, are you allowed to cross-credit subjects from your honours year into the Diploma - you get 25 pts of level 3 or 4 subjects outside your faculty in the honours year?
I'll probably be at uni for like ages because I'm really interested in actuarial, economics, law and mathematics. *sigh*
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: rustic_metal on October 31, 2010, 11:52:02 pm
Ok, are you allowed to cross-credit subjects from your honours year into the Diploma - you get 25 pts of level 3 or 4 subjects outside your faculty in the honours year?
I'll probably be at uni for like ages because I'm really interested in actuarial, economics, law and mathematics. *sigh*
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Nah, pretty sure you aren't.

I'll be at uni for at least 6 years too, thanks to my diploma and masters. 7 if I manage to go overseas for a year. :D
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: AzureBlue on November 01, 2010, 08:50:16 am
I'll be at uni for at least 6 years too, thanks to my diploma and masters. 7 if I manage to go overseas for a year. :D
That's not too bad! I'll be at uni for max (4+1+3+2+2) = 12 years - though I'm most likely not going to do all those courses. More realistically 8 years. Too many interests...
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: Gloamglozer on November 01, 2010, 09:39:50 am
I'll be at uni for at least 6 years too, thanks to my diploma and masters. 7 if I manage to go overseas for a year. :D
That's not too bad! I'll be at uni for max (4+1+3+2+2) = 12 years - though I'm most likely not going to do all those courses. More realistically 8 years. Too many interests...

Have you thought about being "overqualified"?  That word could potentially be your biggest nightmare when you finish.
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: AzureBlue on November 01, 2010, 09:52:39 am
Have you thought about being "overqualified"?  That word could potentially be your biggest nightmare when you finish.
LOL yeah, I guess the best thing to do is just take it as it comes I suppose, see what I like best, starting with BCom (Actuarial Studies major) and DipMSc (Pure Maths).

Also, does 'part-time study' refer to 2 subjects a semester, or just anything less than 4 subjects per semester? How would this work if you had to fit 8 semester subjects into 2 years part-time?
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: Russ on November 01, 2010, 10:13:57 am
Have you thought about being "overqualified"?  That word could potentially be your biggest nightmare when you finish.

I think his biggest problem is going to be paying for it all.

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Also, does 'part-time study' refer to 2 subjects a semester, or just anything less than 4 subjects per semester? How would this work if you had to fit 8 semester subjects into 2 years part-time?

It refers to how you enrol in the university. Full time students can do less subjects a semester and still have it considered a full time load.

And 8 semester subjects in 2 years is the standard 2 per semester.
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: binders on November 01, 2010, 11:48:04 am
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It refers to how you enrol in the university. Full time students can do less subjects a semester and still have it considered a full time load.

do you know if taking less than a full time load has any effect on your study?
or is it just your pocket?
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: Russ on November 01, 2010, 11:58:12 am
It'll take you twice as long to complete your degree. And the subjects don't cost more or less based on fulltime/parttime
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: name on November 01, 2010, 01:50:04 pm
lol, a bit ambitious with all those planned degrees considering you're in year 10 now.
Title: Re: No breadth anymore?
Post by: AzureBlue on November 01, 2010, 04:47:54 pm
lol, a bit ambitious with all those planned degrees considering you're in year 10 now.
Okay, I'm not really planning to do all those degrees. I'm just exploring options right now - nothing wrong with that :)