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Title: identity and belonging topic predictions?
Post by: lisafaustina on October 27, 2010, 02:34:08 pm
I know its impossible to know, but any predictions?
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Post by: sgeorge on October 27, 2010, 04:01:42 pm
It has to be something fairly general, considering it has to cover four different novels/movies.
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Post by: 98.40_for_sure on October 27, 2010, 04:02:51 pm
Hopefully the topic contains the words identity and belonging, that way we can write about anything :D
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Post by: sgeorge on October 27, 2010, 04:07:06 pm
That'd be really good... or just no prompt at all!
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Post by: Blakhitman on October 27, 2010, 04:22:05 pm
That'd be really good... or just no prompt at all!

You'd rather a visual? O.o
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Post by: sgeorge on October 27, 2010, 04:24:45 pm
I was just thinking a blank would be nice. Make something up :)

But I'd forgotten about the visuals! To be honest, I don't mind if it's a visual or a prompt, I've done both at school.
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Post by: Blakhitman on October 27, 2010, 04:29:02 pm
haha I was kidding :P
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Post by: Harsha on October 27, 2010, 04:35:16 pm
did VCAA mention anything about a visual and a prompt
or are people just suspecting it?
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Post by: sgeorge on October 27, 2010, 04:37:54 pm
I think it's in the study design that it can be a visual instead or accompanying a prompt. I suppose it's just hasn't been used before, and it is the third year for context, so they might mix it up.
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Post by: tram on October 27, 2010, 04:39:46 pm
yeah, the last two years ahve had pretty general topics, eitehr you can take the line that it's likely to be the same this year, or you can take the more cynical view that it's likely to be mroe specific this year to mix it up.....

Being the cynic that i am i think it's more likely to be the latter....
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Post by: cypriottiger on October 27, 2010, 04:40:45 pm
if it is visual, would it be something like, a child on a swing by themselves with a groups of kids in the background? or something a lot more vague, like a cloud or somethign like that
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Post by: lisafaustina on October 27, 2010, 04:42:47 pm
whats all this visual talk? :S
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Post by: tram on October 27, 2010, 04:45:30 pm
you can get a visual instead of a prompt. You treat the visual as the point to start you discussion just like you would use a worded prompt.
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Post by: sgeorge on October 27, 2010, 04:51:18 pm
Another kind of visual could be like http://tinyurl.com/26xjk7f, sorry don't know how to show image.

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Post by: Harsha on October 27, 2010, 04:53:30 pm
so if we do get one
do we make a prompt out of it and state what our prompt will be?
or is it jsut analysing the visual, and thinking what it's saying and gonig straight into your writing?
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Post by: sgeorge on October 27, 2010, 04:54:29 pm
Yeah, just think what it means, and write to that. You don't need to form a prompt for the examiners, only if it helps you figure out what to write.
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Post by: rubiks on October 27, 2010, 04:58:51 pm
Hopefully it'll be something similar to last years, want something really broad. I've memorised a story as holden which I can manipulate to suite a fair few prompts. Good thing about writing as holden is that you can go off track a little bit and describe random crap because that's something that he does. Helps if you run out of ideas and want to bump up your word count.
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Post by: saaaaaam on October 27, 2010, 05:07:43 pm
I'm going to make a prediction so that at 9:01 am tomorrow when I read the prompt I can laugh at my own stupidity.

"Our sense of who we are is based largely on who we are not."
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Post by: cypriottiger on October 27, 2010, 05:12:08 pm
^ thats a really interesting one, i can think of a few things to write on
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Post by: lisafaustina on October 27, 2010, 06:11:42 pm
like what?
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Post by: sgeorge on October 27, 2010, 06:14:50 pm
I'm going to make a prediction so that at 9:01 am tomorrow when I read the prompt I can laugh at my own stupidity.

"Our sense of who we are is based largely on who we are not."

Hmm yeah I quite like that.. a few imaginative/expository ones I could write.
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Post by: lisafaustina on October 27, 2010, 06:32:52 pm
which 3 main ideas can you draw from "our sense of who we are is based largely on who we are not?"
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Post by: cypriottiger on October 27, 2010, 06:49:36 pm
which 3 main ideas can you draw from "our sense of who we are is based largely on who we are not?"

1. our identity is founded upon by our ability to reject conflicting ideologies and the temptations they embody.
2. the measure of ones sense of self is established through their susceptability to outside influences. link to an example of how teenagers are relentlessly exposed to social pressures to conform to what society believes to be "ideal". (ill admit this is a bit like no.1)
3. link to Witness text, based upon how the Amish society prides itself on being true to its core principles, and not adhering to modern technology. The sense of self enveloped by individuals in that community is presented as an accomplishment, a credit to the strength of humanity.
4. when i think of it :D
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Post by: TyErd on October 27, 2010, 07:08:23 pm
say for example we got the prompt:  a sense of belonging influence identity. can i write a couple of paragraphs agreeing with this prompt and another paragraph saying the reverse, that is, identity influences belonging? are we allowed to re-arrange the prompt like that?
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Post by: cypriottiger on October 27, 2010, 07:13:19 pm
hmm i dunno, when i see it that it its more repetitive in arguments, but as long as you can support both contentions with new ideas im sure there isnt a problem :)
for a prompt like that id aim for 2 paragraphs on how belonging postitively influences and then 2 on how it negatively influences....
actually if i got a prompt lke that tomorrow i'd probably cry from joy :o so much to write about!