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Title: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 7132 on October 28, 2010, 08:39:43 pm
i did shit as on the english exam, didn't even finish. Anyone have any stories about people who did crap.... I need to feel better about myself.  :'(
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: tange on October 28, 2010, 08:43:59 pm
Don't worry...I think I did crap as well...I actually ended up drawing ideas from another book for context coz I was so blank at he last 30 min of the exam = = Problem is I haven't even read the book! (Only assumed coz I'm asian- Alice Pung asian growing up in Australia). I just did several blog entries from a white guy's perspective on an asian transfer student who didn't fit in coz of various habits and characteristics.  :( I totally understand your frustration .........my sac scores just went in the bin
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 7132 on October 28, 2010, 08:46:20 pm
Don't worry...I think I did crap as well...I actually ended up drawing ideas from another book for context coz I was so blank at he last 30 min of the exam = = Problem is I haven't even read the book! (Only assumed coz I'm asian- Alice Pung asian growing up in Australia). I just did several blog entries from a white guy's perspective on an asian transfer student who didn't fit in coz of various habits and characteristics.  :( I totally understand your frustration .........my sac scores just went in the bin

sorry to hear that! you wouldn't have done worse than me.... i had a 50 min brain freeze... didn't know what to write and by the time i started writing i ran out of time
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 2317 on October 28, 2010, 08:46:50 pm
Dont worry bro 3/4's of my cohort didnt finish.
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: physics on October 28, 2010, 08:49:15 pm
um. my encountering confict was runined
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: Chavi on October 28, 2010, 08:50:02 pm
2317 = 7132 backwards.
Ip check for doppelganger>?
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: kazzacae on October 28, 2010, 08:52:58 pm
kid at Melb high did not analyse ANY visual material...came out crying..i feel sorry for him

just to make you all feel better i fucked up aswell. worse three hours ever. did well on one essay and i feel sorry for the examiner who has to read my context
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 2317 on October 28, 2010, 08:53:17 pm
2317 = 7132 backwards.
Ip check for doppelganger>?
check if u want. im just her friend :)
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 7132 on October 28, 2010, 08:55:27 pm
kid at Melb high did not analyse ANY visual material...came out crying..i feel sorry for him

just to make you all feel better i fucked up aswell. worse three hours ever. did well on one essay and i feel sorry for the examiner who has to read my context

don't worry.. can't be worse than mine. i only completed 2 pieces
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 2317 on October 28, 2010, 08:57:10 pm
kid at Melb high did not analyse ANY visual material...came out crying..i feel sorry for him

just to make you all feel better i fucked up aswell. worse three hours ever. did well on one essay and i feel sorry for the examiner who has to read my context

don't worry.. can't be worse than mine. i only completed 2 pieces
dw dude just freakin look forward to the next exams. whats done is done.
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: kazzacae on October 28, 2010, 08:59:37 pm
english exam is an absolute joke. no reflection of english ability whatsoever
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 7132 on October 28, 2010, 09:01:57 pm
english exam is an absolute joke. no reflection of english ability whatsoever

to make you feel even better. I full on studied english throughout whole year, wrote over 50 essays :(
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: kazzacae on October 28, 2010, 09:06:45 pm
english exam is an absolute joke. no reflection of english ability whatsoever

to make you feel even better. I full on studied english throughout whole year, wrote over 50 essays :(

so did i.... its incredibly frustrating to work so hard and have high hopes and get very little out of it

but i suppose if we did no work at all, it could have been a lot worse.

Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 7132 on October 28, 2010, 09:09:22 pm
english exam is an absolute joke. no reflection of english ability whatsoever

to make you feel even better. I full on studied english throughout whole year, wrote over 50 essays :(

so did i.... its incredibly frustrating to work so hard and have high hopes and get very little out of it

but i suppose if we did no work at all, it could have been a lot worse.



i know.... but it really annoys me how many people cheat. For instance, there was this one kid who always got prompt for SAC before we had to do it in class resulting him getting excellent results. Then come practise exam he gets 48% while i get 72%. For the VCAA exam he put essays in his dictionary.... felt like dobbing him in but since his a friend, i chose not to
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: Chavi on October 28, 2010, 09:12:28 pm
english exam is an absolute joke. no reflection of english ability whatsoever

to make you feel even better. I full on studied english throughout whole year, wrote over 50 essays :(

so did i.... its incredibly frustrating to work so hard and have high hopes and get very little out of it

but i suppose if we did no work at all, it could have been a lot worse.



i know.... but it really annoys me how many people cheat. For instance, there was this one kid who always got prompt for SAC before we had to do it in class resulting him getting excellent results. Then come practise exam he gets 48% while i get 72%. For the VCAA exam he put essays in his dictionary.... felt like dobbing him in but since his a friend, i chose not to
And now his undeserving results will be a stain on your guilty conscience
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 7132 on October 28, 2010, 09:15:10 pm
english exam is an absolute joke. no reflection of english ability whatsoever

to make you feel even better. I full on studied english throughout whole year, wrote over 50 essays :(

so did i.... its incredibly frustrating to work so hard and have high hopes and get very little out of it

but i suppose if we did no work at all, it could have been a lot worse.



i know.... but it really annoys me how many people cheat. For instance, there was this one kid who always got prompt for SAC before we had to do it in class resulting him getting excellent results. Then come practise exam he gets 48% while i get 72%. For the VCAA exam he put essays in his dictionary.... felt like dobbing him in but since his a friend, i chose not to
And now his undeserving results will be a stain on your guilty conscience

what was i suppose to do? His a friend.... u dont dog friends in. Any way i feel sorry for him coz he has really high expectations from his parents needs to get 98 or above
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: Chavi on October 28, 2010, 09:16:45 pm
english exam is an absolute joke. no reflection of english ability whatsoever

to make you feel even better. I full on studied english throughout whole year, wrote over 50 essays :(

so did i.... its incredibly frustrating to work so hard and have high hopes and get very little out of it

but i suppose if we did no work at all, it could have been a lot worse.



i know.... but it really annoys me how many people cheat. For instance, there was this one kid who always got prompt for SAC before we had to do it in class resulting him getting excellent results. Then come practise exam he gets 48% while i get 72%. For the VCAA exam he put essays in his dictionary.... felt like dobbing him in but since his a friend, i chose not to
And now his undeserving results will be a stain on your guilty conscience

what was i suppose to do? His a friend.... u dont dog friends in. Any way i feel sorry for him coz he has really high expectations from his parents needs to get 98 or above
so that justifies it?
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 7132 on October 28, 2010, 09:18:07 pm
english exam is an absolute joke. no reflection of english ability whatsoever

to make you feel even better. I full on studied english throughout whole year, wrote over 50 essays :(

so did i.... its incredibly frustrating to work so hard and have high hopes and get very little out of it

but i suppose if we did no work at all, it could have been a lot worse.



i know.... but it really annoys me how many people cheat. For instance, there was this one kid who always got prompt for SAC before we had to do it in class resulting him getting excellent results. Then come practise exam he gets 48% while i get 72%. For the VCAA exam he put essays in his dictionary.... felt like dobbing him in but since his a friend, i chose not to
And now his undeserving results will be a stain on your guilty conscience

what was i suppose to do? His a friend.... u dont dog friends in. Any way i feel sorry for him coz he has really high expectations from his parents needs to get 98 or above
so that justifies it?

so your saying u would dog in your friends just to get a better SS?
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: Souljette_93 on October 28, 2010, 09:21:25 pm
english exam is an absolute joke. no reflection of english ability whatsoever

to make you feel even better. I full on studied english throughout whole year, wrote over 50 essays :(

so did i.... its incredibly frustrating to work so hard and have high hopes and get very little out of it

but i suppose if we did no work at all, it could have been a lot worse.



i know.... but it really annoys me how many people cheat. For instance, there was this one kid who always got prompt for SAC before we had to do it in class resulting him getting excellent results. Then come practise exam he gets 48% while i get 72%. For the VCAA exam he put essays in his dictionary.... felt like dobbing him in but since his a friend, i chose not to
And now his undeserving results will be a stain on your guilty conscience

what was i suppose to do? His a friend.... u dont dog friends in. Any way i feel sorry for him coz he has really high expectations from his parents needs to get 98 or above


I guess it's harder when it comes to a friend. But what is right is right, so i guess it would have been better off strongly advising him not too-And remember, part of you being a true friend is by helping your friends what's right, regardless if they are going to get angry/hate you

Cheating won't help him succeed. It will actually fail him.
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: you0006 on October 28, 2010, 09:23:24 pm
Look, people, the English Exam is over.
Done, dusted.
No point stressing about it now, no matter how bad it was f**ked up.
If you do, you'll just end up performing worse in your other exams.

Heck, I felt I did ok today.
But I'm not letting that get to me, because I have Spec tomorrow, and I need to have a clear head, not a confident one.

Anyways, you got to the exam and you did it. That's what matters.
So congrats!
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 7132 on October 28, 2010, 09:24:30 pm
he knows he cant do well on eng exams. we did 2 prac exams and he failed both of them 52% at midyear and 48% at end of year. He made up his mind that he would cheat, knowing if he did he could get A+. plus our teachers told us the LBW prompt and conflict prompt yesterday. I dont know how she knew it but it was identical
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: Chavi on October 28, 2010, 09:25:34 pm
what was i suppose to do? His a friend.... u dont dog friends in. Any way i feel sorry for him coz he has really high expectations from his parents needs to get 98 or above
so that justifies it?

so your saying u would dog in your friends just to get a better SS?
Firstly, I have no idea what "dogging" in your friends means. Perhaps you've misspelled the word 'dob', or something far more sinister goes on in your school that involves canines and helpless VCE students.

Secondly, you've just twisted the question around, because you're trying to evade the answer. This has nothing to do my SS or achieving better marks than someone else (ironically, this is exactly what your so-called "friend" is trying to do). This has everything to do with the fact that you have knowledge of a cheater who unfairly advantages himself over every one else who put in the hard work.

A real friend stands up for what's right. So much for your "friendship"
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: Chavi on October 28, 2010, 09:28:31 pm
he knows he cant do well on eng exams. we did 2 prac exams and he failed both of them 52% at midyear and 48% at end of year. He made up his mind that he would cheat, knowing if he did he could get A+. plus our teachers told us the LBW prompt and conflict prompt yesterday. I dont know how she knew it but it was identical
That is just wrong. So the whole class cheated?
What kind of a school encourages cheating? Only a crap one.
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: Souljette_93 on October 28, 2010, 09:30:04 pm
I dont know how she knew it but it was identical

No way. Unless she's somewhat related to the makers of the exam.
so what, does he get somebody else to write up a top essay and memorise that, or does he write it on his own? because if you say he fails and get's like 50% then wouldn't that mean his standard in english is low; so writing up an essay/cheat anyway will not really suffice him as he would be getting low marks anyway?
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: Chavi on October 28, 2010, 09:30:24 pm
Firstly, I have no idea what "dogging" in your friends means. Perhaps you've misspelled the word 'dob', or something far more sinister goes on in your school that involves canines and helpless VCE students.

Secondly, you've just twisted the question around, because you're trying to evade the answer. This has nothing to do my SS or achieving better marks than someone else (ironically, this is exactly what your so-called "friend" is trying to do). This has everything to do with the fact that you have knowledge of a cheater who unfairly advantages himself over every one else who put in the hard work.

A real friend stands up for what's right. So much for your "friendship"
lol- where have u been in the past decade. dont know what 'dog' means. i think its dog as that u can accuse ppl of being a shit friend when clearly you dont know someone. Gee its easy to make such big accusations behind a computer.
hahaha! I'm not making any accusations. You just suddenly waltzed your way onto this forum to brag about the fact that your friend cheated. Hypocrisy much?
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 7132 on October 28, 2010, 09:31:55 pm
what was i suppose to do? His a friend.... u dont dog friends in. Any way i feel sorry for him coz he has really high expectations from his parents needs to get 98 or above
so that justifies it?

so your saying u would dog in your friends just to get a better SS?
Firstly, I have no idea what "dogging" in your friends means. Perhaps you've misspelled the word 'dob', or something far more sinister goes on in your school that involves canines and helpless VCE students.

Secondly, you've just twisted the question around, because you're trying to evade the answer. This has nothing to do my SS or achieving better marks than someone else (ironically, this is exactly what your so-called "friend" is trying to do). This has everything to do with the fact that you have knowledge of a cheater who unfairly advantages himself over every one else who put in the hard work.

A real friend stands up for what's right. So much for your "friendship"

friends are supportive of eachother whateva they choose to do. Thats why i didnt tell on him. How much would you hate it, if u were my friend and u thought i was someone u could trust but then last second i turn on you and tell examiners what your gonna do.
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: Chavi on October 28, 2010, 09:38:04 pm
Firstly, I have no idea what "dogging" in your friends means. Perhaps you've misspelled the word 'dob', or something far more sinister goes on in your school that involves canines and helpless VCE students.

Secondly, you've just twisted the question around, because you're trying to evade the answer. This has nothing to do my SS or achieving better marks than someone else (ironically, this is exactly what your so-called "friend" is trying to do). This has everything to do with the fact that you have knowledge of a cheater who unfairly advantages himself over every one else who put in the hard work.

A real friend stands up for what's right. So much for your "friendship"
lol- where have u been in the past decade. dont know what 'dog' means. i think its dog as that u can accuse ppl of being a shit friend when clearly you dont know someone. Gee its easy to make such big accusations behind a computer.
hahaha! I'm not making any accusations. You just suddenly waltzed your way onto this forum to brag about the fact that your friend cheated. Hypocrisy much?
wrong person ur looking for the opposite username.
I had a feeling there was some collusion . . :)


friends are supportive of eachother whateva they choose to do. Thats why i didnt tell on him. How much would you hate it, if u were my friend and u thought i was someone u could trust but then last second i turn on you and tell examiners what your gonna do.

I would totally understand and I would expect a good friend to take a stand - and I think you summed it up really nicely why:

i know.... but it really annoys me how many people cheat. For instance, there was this one kid who always got prompt for SAC before we had to do it in class resulting him getting excellent results. Then come practise exam he gets 48% while i get 72%. For the VCAA exam he put essays in his dictionary.... felt like dobbing him in but since his a friend, i chose not to

Now, when someone's doing something wrong - especially your friend - do you just turn a blind eye? No. You set the record straight - this builds up trust more than anything.
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: enwiabe on October 28, 2010, 09:40:55 pm
Chavi you're being entirely unfair and a bit mean. This guy wasn't bragging about his friend cheating, he was in fact writing about the injustice of it.

It's easy for you to sit back and say what the right thing to do is. The fact of the matter is that 7132 was placed in a morally challenging situation where there really is no right answer. He wasn't the one breaking the rules. He was placed in that situation by somebody breaking the rules who was his good friend. Now, who wants to risk losing a good friendship? Honestly?

I don't think you can fault the guy for being caught between a rock and a hard place and making the decision he made. The objective "correct" thing to do would be to dob him in, but not doing the 'correct' thing does not make 7132 the pariah you're making him out to be in the slightest. Have some compassion.
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 7132 on October 28, 2010, 09:45:23 pm
Firstly, I have no idea what "dogging" in your friends means. Perhaps you've misspelled the word 'dob', or something far more sinister goes on in your school that involves canines and helpless VCE students.

Secondly, you've just twisted the question around, because you're trying to evade the answer. This has nothing to do my SS or achieving better marks than someone else (ironically, this is exactly what your so-called "friend" is trying to do). This has everything to do with the fact that you have knowledge of a cheater who unfairly advantages himself over every one else who put in the hard work.

A real friend stands up for what's right. So much for your "friendship"
lol- where have u been in the past decade. dont know what 'dog' means. i think its dog as that u can accuse ppl of being a shit friend when clearly you dont know someone. Gee its easy to make such big accusations behind a computer.
hahaha! I'm not making any accusations. You just suddenly waltzed your way onto this forum to brag about the fact that your friend cheated. Hypocrisy much?
wrong person ur looking for the opposite username.
I had a feeling there was some collusion . . :)


friends are supportive of eachother whateva they choose to do. Thats why i didnt tell on him. How much would you hate it, if u were my friend and u thought i was someone u could trust but then last second i turn on you and tell examiners what your gonna do.

I would totally understand and I would expect a good friend to take a stand - and I think you summed it up really nicely why:

i know.... but it really annoys me how many people cheat. For instance, there was this one kid who always got prompt for SAC before we had to do it in class resulting him getting excellent results. Then come practise exam he gets 48% while i get 72%. For the VCAA exam he put essays in his dictionary.... felt like dobbing him in but since his a friend, i chose not to

Now, when someone's doing something wrong - especially your friend - do you just turn a blind eye? No. You set the record straight - this builds up trust more than anything.

not to be mean or anything but dude clearly u must not have many friends. Even though it annoys me that people cheat, I would never dob someone in, its just wrong. I remember my teacher once told me he was at a checkout and person in front of him stole a bucketload of goods which was hidden under trolley(they had a pram on top of trolley so you couldnt tell) Even though it was ethically wrong, he chose not to do anything because he felt he would be a rat in doing so
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: qshyrn on October 28, 2010, 09:49:09 pm
i think of it like this: a cheating person getting an advantage is just like having another really smart kid in the class  :)
doesnt really bother me one bit(cant say the same for most other ppl).
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: enwiabe on October 28, 2010, 09:51:08 pm
Firstly, I have no idea what "dogging" in your friends means. Perhaps you've misspelled the word 'dob', or something far more sinister goes on in your school that involves canines and helpless VCE students.

Secondly, you've just twisted the question around, because you're trying to evade the answer. This has nothing to do my SS or achieving better marks than someone else (ironically, this is exactly what your so-called "friend" is trying to do). This has everything to do with the fact that you have knowledge of a cheater who unfairly advantages himself over every one else who put in the hard work.

A real friend stands up for what's right. So much for your "friendship"
lol- where have u been in the past decade. dont know what 'dog' means. i think its dog as that u can accuse ppl of being a shit friend when clearly you dont know someone. Gee its easy to make such big accusations behind a computer.
hahaha! I'm not making any accusations. You just suddenly waltzed your way onto this forum to brag about the fact that your friend cheated. Hypocrisy much?
wrong person ur looking for the opposite username.
I had a feeling there was some collusion . . :)


friends are supportive of eachother whateva they choose to do. Thats why i didnt tell on him. How much would you hate it, if u were my friend and u thought i was someone u could trust but then last second i turn on you and tell examiners what your gonna do.

I would totally understand and I would expect a good friend to take a stand - and I think you summed it up really nicely why:

i know.... but it really annoys me how many people cheat. For instance, there was this one kid who always got prompt for SAC before we had to do it in class resulting him getting excellent results. Then come practise exam he gets 48% while i get 72%. For the VCAA exam he put essays in his dictionary.... felt like dobbing him in but since his a friend, i chose not to

Now, when someone's doing something wrong - especially your friend - do you just turn a blind eye? No. You set the record straight - this builds up trust more than anything.

not to be mean or anything but dude clearly u must not have many friends. Even though it annoys me that people cheat, I would never dob someone in, its just wrong. I remember my teacher once told me he was at a checkout and person in front of him stole a bucketload of goods which was hidden under trolley(they had a pram on top of trolley so you couldnt tell) Even though it was ethically wrong, he chose not to do anything because he felt he would be a rat in doing so

Please don't abuse other members. Also, in that case, that *is* the time to dob somebody in... that guy stole stuff from the supermarket affecting their turnover and potentially the job of a lower end employee... (the first to be fired when turnovers are lower in some months), so I think that was definitely the wrong thing to do there.
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 7132 on October 28, 2010, 09:55:54 pm
Firstly, I have no idea what "dogging" in your friends means. Perhaps you've misspelled the word 'dob', or something far more sinister goes on in your school that involves canines and helpless VCE students.

Secondly, you've just twisted the question around, because you're trying to evade the answer. This has nothing to do my SS or achieving better marks than someone else (ironically, this is exactly what your so-called "friend" is trying to do). This has everything to do with the fact that you have knowledge of a cheater who unfairly advantages himself over every one else who put in the hard work.

A real friend stands up for what's right. So much for your "friendship"
lol- where have u been in the past decade. dont know what 'dog' means. i think its dog as that u can accuse ppl of being a shit friend when clearly you dont know someone. Gee its easy to make such big accusations behind a computer.
hahaha! I'm not making any accusations. You just suddenly waltzed your way onto this forum to brag about the fact that your friend cheated. Hypocrisy much?
wrong person ur looking for the opposite username.
I had a feeling there was some collusion . . :)


friends are supportive of eachother whateva they choose to do. Thats why i didnt tell on him. How much would you hate it, if u were my friend and u thought i was someone u could trust but then last second i turn on you and tell examiners what your gonna do.

I would totally understand and I would expect a good friend to take a stand - and I think you summed it up really nicely why:

i know.... but it really annoys me how many people cheat. For instance, there was this one kid who always got prompt for SAC before we had to do it in class resulting him getting excellent results. Then come practise exam he gets 48% while i get 72%. For the VCAA exam he put essays in his dictionary.... felt like dobbing him in but since his a friend, i chose not to

Now, when someone's doing something wrong - especially your friend - do you just turn a blind eye? No. You set the record straight - this builds up trust more than anything.

not to be mean or anything but dude clearly u must not have many friends. Even though it annoys me that people cheat, I would never dob someone in, its just wrong. I remember my teacher once told me he was at a checkout and person in front of him stole a bucketload of goods which was hidden under trolley(they had a pram on top of trolley so you couldnt tell) Even though it was ethically wrong, he chose not to do anything because he felt he would be a rat in doing so

Please don't abuse other members. Also, in that case, that *is* the time to dob somebody in... that guy stole stuff from the supermarket affecting their turnover and potentially the job of a lower end employee... (the first to be fired when turnovers are lower in some months), so I think that was definitely the wrong thing to do there.

sorry i was hurt by Chavi's comment ' So much for your friendship'
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: Chavi on October 28, 2010, 10:26:40 pm
Firstly, I have no idea what "dogging" in your friends means. Perhaps you've misspelled the word 'dob', or something far more sinister goes on in your school that involves canines and helpless VCE students.

Secondly, you've just twisted the question around, because you're trying to evade the answer. This has nothing to do my SS or achieving better marks than someone else (ironically, this is exactly what your so-called "friend" is trying to do). This has everything to do with the fact that you have knowledge of a cheater who unfairly advantages himself over every one else who put in the hard work.

A real friend stands up for what's right. So much for your "friendship"
lol- where have u been in the past decade. dont know what 'dog' means. i think its dog as that u can accuse ppl of being a shit friend when clearly you dont know someone. Gee its easy to make such big accusations behind a computer.
hahaha! I'm not making any accusations. You just suddenly waltzed your way onto this forum to brag about the fact that your friend cheated. Hypocrisy much?
wrong person ur looking for the opposite username.
I had a feeling there was some collusion . . :)


friends are supportive of eachother whateva they choose to do. Thats why i didnt tell on him. How much would you hate it, if u were my friend and u thought i was someone u could trust but then last second i turn on you and tell examiners what your gonna do.

I would totally understand and I would expect a good friend to take a stand - and I think you summed it up really nicely why:

i know.... but it really annoys me how many people cheat. For instance, there was this one kid who always got prompt for SAC before we had to do it in class resulting him getting excellent results. Then come practise exam he gets 48% while i get 72%. For the VCAA exam he put essays in his dictionary.... felt like dobbing him in but since his a friend, i chose not to

Now, when someone's doing something wrong - especially your friend - do you just turn a blind eye? No. You set the record straight - this builds up trust more than anything.

not to be mean or anything but dude clearly u must not have many friends. Even though it annoys me that people cheat, I would never dob someone in, its just wrong. I remember my teacher once told me he was at a checkout and person in front of him stole a bucketload of goods which was hidden under trolley(they had a pram on top of trolley so you couldnt tell) Even though it was ethically wrong, he chose not to do anything because he felt he would be a rat in doing so

There's an old Arab saying that goes: "Me and my brother against my cousin, me and my cousin against the stranger". I understand that you're trying to defend your friend and his actions, and clearly you feel very strongly about this. My aim was never to upset - I would simply react differently had I been in that situation. I think that between good friends there is enough solid trust to go through something like this - and usually both end up appreciating it.

I mean today he cheats on the VCE English exam - tomorrow at Uni as well? Maybe you should calmly sit down with him and tell him how you feel about all this, to stop this from becoming a character trait. If you're uneasy about it, he is probably too.
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: menashiiii on October 28, 2010, 10:31:56 pm
pretty sure
my hand still hurts!
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: paulie9214 on October 28, 2010, 10:36:46 pm
One person sneaking essays in their dictionary wouldnt help them much anyway. Neither would one person cheating have an effect on anyone elses scores that much. if anything it would bump up your school if they did well
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: m@tty on October 28, 2010, 10:49:43 pm
One person sneaking essays in their dictionary wouldnt help them much anyway. Neither would one person cheating have an effect on anyone elses scores that much. if anything it would bump up your school if they did well

Except that exact prompts were given to this class yesterday, apparently.
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: paulie9214 on October 28, 2010, 10:54:47 pm
One person sneaking essays in their dictionary wouldnt help them much anyway. Neither would one person cheating have an effect on anyone elses scores that much. if anything it would bump up your school if they did well

Except that exact prompts were given to this class yesterday, apparently.


Wow that's a bit of good luck. Anyways it would seem the better students would be more talented writers and therefore not need to cheat anyway.
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: Lozzee on October 29, 2010, 09:27:03 am
english exam is an absolute joke. no reflection of english ability whatsoever

Amen.
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: brightsky on October 29, 2010, 09:35:04 am
english exam is an absolute joke. no reflection of english ability whatsoever

Amen.

Compared to other tests that aim to gauge English ability, VCE English is comparatively successful.
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: kenhung123 on October 29, 2010, 09:36:05 am
he knows he cant do well on eng exams. we did 2 prac exams and he failed both of them 52% at midyear and 48% at end of year. He made up his mind that he would cheat, knowing if he did he could get A+. plus our teachers told us the LBW prompt and conflict prompt yesterday. I dont know how she knew it but it was identical
What......are you just joking or what?
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: thedpinsane on October 29, 2010, 10:20:18 am
Just my 2cents, I thought the exam was alright, I dunno if thats a good or bad sign, guess Ill have to wait til the results come around.

If failed miserably I can always repeat next year, rather not though.
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 7132 on October 29, 2010, 11:45:16 am
he knows he cant do well on eng exams. we did 2 prac exams and he failed both of them 52% at midyear and 48% at end of year. He made up his mind that he would cheat, knowing if he did he could get A+. plus our teachers told us the LBW prompt and conflict prompt yesterday. I dont know how she knew it but it was identical
What......are you just joking or what?



no im not joking. Our teacher purely guessed the prompts.... too bad that i didnt do LBW though
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: taiga on October 29, 2010, 01:02:37 pm
Chavi your posts are ridiculous. Undermining someone's friendship because the other person has been dishonest? Not many people on earth would have friends if that was the case. I would not expect that sort of comment from anyone who has had any strong friendships

And you honestly think that it would better a friendship to dob him in? I don't know how to respond to that.

+You don't know what it means to "dog" someone?

I hate to be one to make judgments based on internet posts, but on a superficial basis they do not make you look very good.

On the other hand 7132 I reckon if you knew if he was going to cheat you should have convinced him out of it before/expressed yourself against it, I think it is unfair, but if you are under the knowledge that someone else is cheating, the blame may or may not fall back on you. Also I hope your friend gets a 20 SS.
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: kakaka:DDD on October 29, 2010, 03:47:04 pm
kid at Melb high did not analyse ANY visual material...came out crying..i feel sorry for him

just to make you all feel better i fucked up aswell. worse three hours ever. did well on one essay and i feel sorry for the examiner who has to read my context

T_____T

same to me..... i totally screwed up
i have always practice with image then maybe i was too nervous or simply too focus on finish writing, i FORGOT TO WRITE IT!!!!!!!

..... heartache forever.... :(
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: Robbey on October 31, 2010, 10:42:16 pm
he knows he cant do well on eng exams. we did 2 prac exams and he failed both of them 52% at midyear and 48% at end of year. He made up his mind that he would cheat, knowing if he did he could get A+. plus our teachers told us the LBW prompt and conflict prompt yesterday. I dont know how she knew it but it was identical
What......are you just joking or what?



no im not joking. Our teacher purely guessed the prompts.... too bad that i didnt do LBW though

your a dog!! as if you didnt come on here and tell us!!
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: 7132 on November 01, 2010, 02:14:42 pm
he knows he cant do well on eng exams. we did 2 prac exams and he failed both of them 52% at midyear and 48% at end of year. He made up his mind that he would cheat, knowing if he did he could get A+. plus our teachers told us the LBW prompt and conflict prompt yesterday. I dont know how she knew it but it was identical
What......are you just joking or what?



no im not joking. Our teacher purely guessed the prompts.... too bad that i didnt do LBW though

your a dog!! as if you didnt come on here and tell us!!

even if i did, none of u guys would have believed me. You would all have thought it was a hoax
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: absurdlittlebird on November 02, 2010, 01:19:38 am
kid at Melb high did not analyse ANY visual material...came out crying..i feel sorry for him

just to make you all feel better i fucked up aswell. worse three hours ever. did well on one essay and i feel sorry for the examiner who has to read my context

i did an awesome anaylsis but i only talked about the bottom image :s
how much trouble will that bring me?

T_____T

same to me..... i totally screwed up
i have always practice with image then maybe i was too nervous or simply too focus on finish writing, i FORGOT TO WRITE IT!!!!!!!

..... heartache forever.... :(
Title: Re: english exam sucked balls...
Post by: teebagger* on November 02, 2010, 01:38:01 am
I feel you man. If I hadn't had the biology exam the very next day, I probably would have hit the bottle or something. A-A+ sac mark average all year, practice exams, Eng tutor, etc and I couldn't even pony up and successfully finish off 3 essays in those 3 hours.

But ah well, life goes on.