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Archived Discussion => 2010 => End-of-year exams => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Further Mathematics => Topic started by: MrIraq on November 01, 2010, 03:08:17 pm

Title: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: MrIraq on November 01, 2010, 03:08:17 pm
Omg man, was it me? Or was Core HARD!!? what was the standard deviation question on about, from the last 49 trials i never saw anything like that, I guessed Range/4 ?  buh the answer was 2?! wth

and then moving on, their was Graphs and Realtions, and a diagram asking for the value of b, from a house.. I guessed a random answer, ...

Ohh and about using your fingernail, It worked. and I finished the Exam pretty Early,

Exam was harder than I expected...

What u guys think??
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: guns_of_the_patriots on November 01, 2010, 03:09:36 pm
very very deceptive . a lot could have gone wrong
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: Gobon on November 01, 2010, 03:12:29 pm
For the graphs and relations question, what I did was sub in the values to see where there was a 1 difference. And I got B too.
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: _avO on November 01, 2010, 03:16:57 pm
Yep what Gobon said, easiest method, you can also eliminate A because 3 is the intersection between both equations
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: superstar1 on November 01, 2010, 03:18:09 pm
oh man i got the intersection between two points. dam
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: morgan_muffin on November 01, 2010, 04:17:21 pm
yeah i thought core was ridiculously hard compared to previous years :(
damn maths teachers! everything was worded so ambiguously
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: MrIraq on November 01, 2010, 04:46:30 pm
yeah, and the fingernail trick worked,,, in ur face that guy who kept saying ur not alloud to...
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: Studyinghard on November 01, 2010, 05:08:51 pm
yeah, and the fingernail trick worked,,, in ur face that guy who kept saying ur not alloud to...

and how many marks did that get you?
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: iphail on November 01, 2010, 05:29:12 pm
yeah, and the fingernail trick worked,,, in ur face that guy who kept saying ur not alloud to...

and how many marks did that get you?
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/publications/vceexamnav10.pdf
wtf - Page 8 rule no.15.
lol Mr. Iraq took a bit of a risk with that one. But hey, whatever works :D
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: Gobon on November 01, 2010, 05:39:48 pm
I wouldn't do it because it's cheating. It shouldn't matter if you get away with it or not.
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: bomb on November 01, 2010, 05:49:28 pm
yeah, and the fingernail trick worked,,, in ur face that guy who kept saying ur not alloud to...

Well if you do get 2/40 even WITH cheating, I have bad news for you.
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: MrIraq on November 01, 2010, 06:57:30 pm
yeah, and the fingernail trick worked,,, in ur face that guy who kept saying ur not alloud to...

and how many marks did that get you?
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/publications/vceexamnav10.pdf
wtf - Page 8 rule no.15.
lol Mr. Iraq took a bit of a risk with that one. But hey, whatever works :D

u know, im not actually writing, i dont have a pen in my hand, and i dont think u payed attention to what it says, "A student must not begin to write or mark his or her paper or response material in
any way, or use a calculator, until advised by a supervisor that writing may
commence." --

i havent written anything, ive scratched the response paper which is mine, without using a pen or a calculator, Please tell me were the wrong is? ...

and its not cheating... I call it, "using your time wisely" lol nah seriously theirs nothing wrong with it, just dnt sit at the front near the examiner and do it, he/she will get suspicious of u finding a rule around the system
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: mmmmm on November 01, 2010, 07:00:36 pm
Lol then, how did you go?
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: MrIraq on November 01, 2010, 07:03:02 pm
Lol then, how did you go?


well, i had enough time anyway, the marking with finger just gave extra time... anyway it wasnt that good, core was hard didnt like it, and then number patterns was peice of cake, graphs n relations, all was good except last question and then matrixes.. wasnt soo bad, i was being sarcastic about 2/40 .. lol hopefully its only like 5 mistakes

what about u?
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: shokstar on November 01, 2010, 07:07:26 pm
For the graphs and relations question, what I did was sub in the values to see where there was a 1 difference. And I got B too.

Or just shift the graph on the right up one, by adding 1 to c, and find the intersection
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: benob1352 on November 01, 2010, 08:10:03 pm

u know, im not actually writing, i dont have a pen in my hand, and i dont think u payed attention to what it says, "A student must not begin to write or mark his or her paper or response material in
any way, or use a calculator, until advised by a supervisor that writing may
commence." --

i havent written anything, ive scratched the response paper which is mine, without using a pen or a calculator, Please tell me were the wrong is? ...

and its not cheating... I call it, "using your time wisely" lol nah seriously theirs nothing wrong with it, just dnt sit at the front near the examiner and do it, he/she will get suspicious of u finding a rule around the system

You aren't a hero for marking your paper mate. You still managed to drop 5 marks. Maybe you shouldve used your reading time efffectively to go through the entire paper.
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: JinXi on November 01, 2010, 08:24:33 pm
A guy in my school 2 years ago was actually caught marking his paper with fingernails apparently. He had to go to this hearing in vcaa headquarters with a solicitor and the VCE coordinator.

His grade was finally dropped 3 grades, Eg A-> C+.  

Even though I'm telling you to do anything, and I wouldn't care much, it isn't allowed and some strict examiners might just decide to be grumpy that day. No-one should be in the shoes of that guy who got penalized just because he was trying to gain a slight advantage, we all worked too hard for this, don't risk ANYTHING.

I'm not kidding about the hearing and stuff, it's a fact.
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: bomb on November 01, 2010, 08:33:04 pm

u know, im not actually writing, i dont have a pen in my hand, and i dont think u payed attention to what it says, "A student must not begin to write or mark his or her paper or response material in
any way, or use a calculator, until advised by a supervisor that writing may
commence." --

i havent written anything, ive scratched the response paper which is mine, without using a pen or a calculator, Please tell me were the wrong is? ...

and its not cheating... I call it, "using your time wisely" lol nah seriously theirs nothing wrong with it, just dnt sit at the front near the examiner and do it, he/she will get suspicious of u finding a rule around the system

You aren't a hero for marking your paper mate. You still managed to drop 5 marks. Maybe you shouldve used your reading time efffectively to go through the entire paper.

This.
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: xoxogossipgirl on November 01, 2010, 08:38:27 pm
sort of unrelated, but after i got out of my exam i heard that people at my school were using their calculators during reading time. and our vce coordinator asked the vcaa supervisor if it was allowed and she was like "umm i think so."
=/ bit crap... i was gonna crack it coz i didn't know.
but everyone that i heard of in that part of the room that did it (not many) were all fairly weak students anyway i think. so i doubt it'd give too much of an advantage... still. pretty shit
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: crayolé on November 01, 2010, 09:39:35 pm
sort of unrelated, but after i got out of my exam i heard that people at my school were using their calculators during reading time. and our vce coordinator asked the vcaa supervisor if it was allowed and she was like "umm i think so."
=/ bit crap... i was gonna crack it coz i didn't know.
but everyone that i heard of in that part of the room that did it (not many) were all fairly weak students anyway i think. so i doubt it'd give too much of an advantage... still. pretty shit
You want your class to do as well as possible on the exam anyway
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: summyx on November 01, 2010, 10:03:11 pm
Some kids in my class were using their calculators also. The supervisors were aware, they said nothing.
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: MrIraq on November 01, 2010, 10:16:31 pm
ohh, who cares,, all i know is i wount be needing to use my fingernail ever again...  its about ur exam supervisor,  ....  either u have a doggish one, or a really good one who doesnt care..
Title: Re: Remember talking about 49, well it was a spelling ERROR, I meant to say 2/40
Post by: travy92 on November 01, 2010, 10:29:59 pm
and then moving on, their was Graphs and Realtions, and a diagram asking for the value of b, from a house.. I guessed a random answer, ...

At first, I used a ruler and found what 1m was equal to in terms of a rule (kind of like scale factor lolz), then measured the line and found b equaled around 4.3.. so I guessed 4.5, B.
Then going back over it, I realised I could sub in to the equations, did that and got 4.5 aswell.

+1 for realistic scale!