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Archived Discussion => 2010 => End-of-year exams => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Mathematical Methods CAS => Topic started by: johsephhh_ on November 05, 2010, 10:52:11 am

Title: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: johsephhh_ on November 05, 2010, 10:52:11 am
There was a log Qs and i got P=2(now theres reason that its 1/2 so dw if u got this guys I got 2 though) and the probability one i got P=1/2 Everyone agree?  :2funny:
Tangent Qs a = 1/6, c = 1/2 and d = -5/2
Prob Qs with the mean and Variance : .5 and -2/3
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: curious111 on November 05, 2010, 10:53:15 am
I got p=1/2 for the probability question, and also got p=1/2 for the log e (p) one

A bit suspicious lol
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: johsephhh_ on November 05, 2010, 10:56:18 am
Prob was aight :) what do u reckon 28/40 will fetch me?
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: sajib_mostofa on November 05, 2010, 10:56:31 am
I got 4/5 for the second part of question 1
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: kiraxxx on November 05, 2010, 10:58:28 am
There was a log Qs and i got P=2 and the probability one i got P=1/2 Everyone agree?  :2funny:

I got exactly the same XD
Lets hope it is correct !!
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: johsephhh_ on November 05, 2010, 10:58:55 am
LOL S.D is root variance OH yerh i got 0.50 AND -2/3 for that Qs everyone else?
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: johsephhh_ on November 05, 2010, 10:59:15 am
There was a log Qs and i got P=2 and the probability one i got P=1/2 Everyone agree?  :2funny:

I got exactly the same XD
Lets hope it is correct !!

CHYEAH BRO fo shizzle
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: cjudd3votes on November 05, 2010, 11:00:30 am
got p = 1/2 for the log question, and p = 1/2 for probability one.
also got a = 1/6, c = 1/2 and d = -5/2 for the tangent question but didnt have time to check :-\
finished everything in 40 minutes only to be savaged by the last question and realising similar figures too late  :idiot2:
lucky methods is 5th subject  :)
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: sajib_mostofa on November 05, 2010, 11:00:42 am
LOL S.D is root variance OH yerh i got 0.50 AND -2/3 for that Qs everyone else?

Yeah same
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: johsephhh_ on November 05, 2010, 11:01:38 am
OMG THE TANGENT Qs SAME awesome guys a = 1/6, c = 1/2 and d = -5/2
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: samiira on November 05, 2010, 11:02:44 am
OMG THE TANGENT Qs SAME awesome guys a = 1/6, c = 1/2 and d = -5/2

yeh its right
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: lil_stace on November 05, 2010, 11:03:58 am
Yay i got the tangent question tooo!!!!  
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: johsephhh_ on November 05, 2010, 11:04:44 am
ah methods not looking too bad atm buh next exam gonna be crazy huh?
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: monicapham93 on November 05, 2010, 11:17:55 am
so the first log question was 2?
or 1/2?
cause i got 2 but theres people in other threads who got 1/2
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: Whatlol on November 05, 2010, 11:18:56 am
fuck didnt square root the variance :(
fml fml fml

omg .... shit  i did the same.
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: curious111 on November 05, 2010, 11:19:10 am
so the first log question was 2?
or 1/2?
cause i got 2 but theres people in other threads who got 1/2

Fairly certain it was 1/2. Remember -ln(2) = ln(1/2)
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: johsephhh_ on November 05, 2010, 11:19:37 am
hmm now im thinking 1/2 :/
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: cjudd3votes on November 05, 2010, 11:20:12 am
The question asked for the answer in the form loge(p) which I assumed to mean no negative out the front. Leaves p = 1/2
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: bomb on November 05, 2010, 11:22:15 am
FML I lost like 7 marks already :(

I thought that log question was 2?

Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: Linkage1992 on November 05, 2010, 11:24:16 am
It's definitely 1/2.
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: kazekage on November 05, 2010, 11:24:38 am
so the first log question was 2?
or 1/2?
cause i got 2 but theres people in other threads who got 1/2

if you got 2, you mustve omitted the negative in front of the log D:
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: johsephhh_ on November 05, 2010, 11:25:01 am
FML I lost like 7 marks already :(

I thought that log question was 2?


same here bomb same here we're shattered i bet VCAA new this would happen. fags
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: VCE123456789 on November 05, 2010, 11:29:01 am
its 1/2 100 %
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: johsephhh_ on November 05, 2010, 11:32:24 am
most likely mate
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: monicapham93 on November 05, 2010, 11:32:49 am
damn :(
well i seriously only got to that question in the last 30 seconds so its an effort at least
it was out of 3 marks i think?
so i can get 2/3 marks ?
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: johsephhh_ on November 05, 2010, 11:35:38 am
damn :(
well i seriously only got to that question in the last 30 seconds so its an effort at least
it was out of 3 marks i think?
so i can get 2/3 marks ?
hopefully xD
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: Whatlol on November 05, 2010, 11:38:09 am
can you still get one mark for stating b as -2/9  (using variance and not std.)
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: monicapham93 on November 05, 2010, 11:39:29 am
i dunno... it was only a 2 mark qustion wasnt it??
they might be really tough if you overlooked variance...  thats why vcca do sneaky quetsions like that... -_-
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: johsephhh_ on November 05, 2010, 11:48:30 am
can you still get one mark for stating b as -2/9  (using variance and not std.)
maybe but i think they put it there on purpose
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: bomb on November 05, 2010, 12:37:58 pm
Hm, so what grade should 28/40 get?
Or 30/40?
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: LFTM on November 05, 2010, 12:38:43 pm
can you still get one mark for stating b as -2/9  (using variance and not std.)

I did this. how many marks?
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: Whatlol on November 05, 2010, 12:39:20 pm
can you still get one mark for stating b as -2/9  (using variance and not std.)

I did this. how many marks?

well its worth 2marks, i reakon we could still get 1mark
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: sajib_mostofa on November 05, 2010, 12:39:45 pm
If you just purely stated the answer, you would only get 1 mark.
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: lachymm on November 05, 2010, 12:42:25 pm
Bomb i reckon a high B+ this year?

Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: Whatlol on November 05, 2010, 12:42:33 pm
If you just purely stated the answer, you would only get 1 mark.

i showed working out as in pr( X > 7 ) = Pr (Z > 7-5 /9 )
                                                    =Pr (Z > 2/9)
                                                     = Pr ( Z < -2/9)
                            therefore b = -2/9
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: sajib_mostofa on November 05, 2010, 12:43:18 pm
If you just purely stated the answer, you would only get 1 mark.

i showed working out as in pr( X > 7 ) = Pr (Z > 7-5 /9 )
                                                    =Pr (Z > 2/9)
                                                     = Pr ( Z < -2/9)
                            therefore b = -2/9

Yeah that would be 2 marks.
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: Whatlol on November 05, 2010, 12:45:05 pm
If you just purely stated the answer, you would only get 1 mark.

i showed working out as in pr( X > 7 ) = Pr (Z > 7-5 /9 )
                                                    =Pr (Z > 2/9)
                                                     = Pr ( Z < -2/9)
                            therefore b = -2/9

Yeah that would be 2 marks.

except i used variance, so i still get 1 method mark?
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: monicapham93 on November 05, 2010, 12:46:12 pm
surely.
unless they purposely wanted to trip everyone with that
and then proceed to punish anyone that did fall into the trap
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: sajib_mostofa on November 05, 2010, 12:51:03 pm
If you just purely stated the answer, you would only get 1 mark.

i showed working out as in pr( X > 7 ) = Pr (Z > 7-5 /9 )
                                                    =Pr (Z > 2/9)
                                                     = Pr ( Z < -2/9)
                            therefore b = -2/9

Yeah that would be 2 marks.

except i used variance, so i still get 1 method mark?

Oh wait a sec, the answer was -2/3 wasn't it? You would probably get one mark for the method (even though you used variance) but lose the answer mark.
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: Whatlol on November 05, 2010, 12:52:52 pm
If you just purely stated the answer, you would only get 1 mark.

i showed working out as in pr( X > 7 ) = Pr (Z > 7-5 /9 )
                                                    =Pr (Z > 2/9)
                                                     = Pr ( Z < -2/9)
                            therefore b = -2/9

Yeah that would be 2 marks.

except i used variance, so i still get 1 method mark?

Oh wait a sec, the answer was -2/3 wasn't it? You would probably get one mark for the method (even though you used variance) but lose the answer mark.

yea i hope so
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: Dawson on November 05, 2010, 02:59:53 pm
same!!!!
Title: Re: Some answers i got in methods
Post by: superflya on November 05, 2010, 03:03:33 pm
If you just purely stated the answer, you would only get 1 mark.

i showed working out as in pr( X > 7 ) = Pr (Z > 7-5 /9 )
                                                    =Pr (Z > 2/9)
                                                     = Pr ( Z < -2/9)
                            therefore b = -2/9

Yeah that would be 2 marks.

except i used variance, so i still get 1 method mark?

doubt that would get 2 marks, maybe 1 method mark as uve used the incorrect value from the beginning :/