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Title: Quoting on Exams?
Post by: leenie on November 06, 2010, 09:21:36 pm
Hi everybody! Regarding the 2010 History: Revolutions Exam - when to quote and not to quote?

There's a week left and I was told NOT to quote for AOS1 on both revolutions

And my Part 1 is Russia while my Part 2 is France

I was looking through the past exams of other years, and do the 'name 3-4 points' questions need to have quotes in them for AOS1? So should I only memorise quotes for AOS 2 for both revolutions?
Title: Re: Quoting on Exams?
Post by: Spreadbury on November 06, 2010, 09:43:20 pm
if a quote fits, I don't know why you wouldn't want to put it in. I would know quotes for both revolutions, they're great evidence and will probably boost your mark
Title: Re: Quoting on Exams?
Post by: claire92 on November 06, 2010, 11:22:30 pm
I was told AOS rev 1 (america) don't quote, but mention all your nessasary points, AOS2, do quote, and then quote for AOS 1+2, ESPECIALLY 2! for rev 2.
Title: Re: Quoting on Exams?
Post by: Spreadbury on November 06, 2010, 11:47:52 pm
why shouldn't you quote for area of study 1?

EDIT: can quoting in AOS1 hurt our marks? besides the essay that would be where I quote the most...
Title: Re: Quoting on Exams?
Post by: tdor on November 07, 2010, 10:43:31 am
I have heard for the revolution you do first AOS1 does not need quotes.
But thats because those are more statistical and fact questions, you have to understand events and causes
Title: Re: Quoting on Exams?
Post by: claire92 on November 07, 2010, 11:47:50 am
I was told that AOS is focusing more on progaganda, leaders, ideals and events, therefore historians really are not nessasary, however directly quoting a revoultionary such as 'James otis was well known for stating 'no taxation w/o representation'.... would not hurt.
Title: Re: Quoting on Exams?
Post by: Kotza on November 07, 2010, 01:28:31 pm
if you read last years assessment report, one of the AOS 1 comments state that:

"(quotes are) undesirable in this section."

However there is NOOOOOOOO way that quoting will prove to be detrimental to your marks.
Its basically saying, "oh here is a student which is demonstrating knowledge and providing evidence, i better mark him down."

haha it wont happen :)
Title: Re: Quoting on Exams?
Post by: leenie on November 07, 2010, 02:49:00 pm
if you read last years assessment report, one of the AOS 1 comments state that:

"(quotes are) undesirable in this section."

However there is NOOOOOOOO way that quoting will prove to be detrimental to your marks.
Its basically saying, "oh here is a student which is demonstrating knowledge and providing evidence, i better mark him down."

haha it wont happen :)

Really? Well I was reading through The Age and it said quoting is not necessary for AOS1 but like I see what you mean, they can't exactly mark you down for not quoting.

Anyway, thankyou everybody! Back to major QUOTE REMEMBERING this is horrible.
Title: Re: Quoting on Exams?
Post by: Spreadbury on November 07, 2010, 11:07:32 pm
I can see the value of quotes regarding certain questions, particularly questions about ideology or 'how did Lenin's policies create a revolutionary situation by 1917?' Also, it seems like solid evidence, everything else just seems like stating a fact, and seems lacking in basis. I answered a question about the February Revolution, and there's not many statistics that can prove the people were unhappy. To my knowledge no popularity poll was held during WWI.