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Archived Discussion => 2010 => End-of-year exams => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Mathematical Methods CAS => Topic started by: kepal5 on November 08, 2010, 02:09:48 pm
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How did u guise do the pyramid of death question lol
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There's a pyramid of death now? Sounds like yet another interesting exam!
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LOLLLLLLLLLL THAT WAS FKIN A JOKE
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Was there a question about Tasmania Jones falling into a pyramid of death? That would be cool :D
Does anyone have a scanned copy of the exam yet?
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It was victoria jones this time, but it was in probability.
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Ah, so Tasmania Jones' brother? How did they manage to fit a pyramid into a probability question?
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Separate questions, Victoria Jones started cashing on on Tasmania's success and mass produced the statue that I assume nearly fell in acid few years back, pyramid questions were about...pyramids from an ancient society that is not named for Ra knows what...
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Finding the height of the pyramid was tricky. I used Pythagoras' theorem,,, anyone else?
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Yeah, it was pythagoras.
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haha I laughed on seeing the pyramid of death after the prediction yesterday
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F U vcaa and the jones family!!!
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In terms of difficulty, anyone think that it was similiar to 2007?
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haha I laughed on seeing the pyramid of death after the prediction yesterday
It's ironic, because it was LITERALLY a pyramid of death as the Egyptian pharaohs were buried in them :P
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lolol pyramid of Death... at least it was in the study design unlike it's brother.
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pretty sure i got 80/80.
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haha I laughed on seeing the pyramid of death after the prediction yesterday
It's ironic, because it was LITERALLY a pyramid of death as the Egyptian pharaohs were buried in them :P
HAHAHAHAHA
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pretty sure i got 80/80.
Don't count your pyramids before they've been built :P
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It was hardddddddddddddddddddddddd.....
couldn't they have made it easier as it was beginning of CAS. Feel like a freakin' guinea pig.
STUPID VCAA. :tickedoff:
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Anyone else throw away 13 marks?
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Anyone else throw away 13 marks?
yep and perhaps more ><
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pretty sure i got 80/80.
Don't count your pyramids before they've been built :P
its more like 40/80 :p
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did anyone get no solution to the value of x? because that was my calc and everyone else's calc gave, so no one could finish that q or do the next one. AHHH. HARDEST EXAM EVER. and i thought vcaa ones were meant to be easier than the trial exams.
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i got an answer the length of the page for the volume of the pyrmid LOL
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i got an answer the length of the page for the volume of the pyrmid LOL
Something with like 3 brackets and root 3's inside?
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i got an answer the length of the page for the volume of the pyrmid LOL
Something with like 3 brackets and root 3's inside?
Me2. What was the approx for the volume? I got 250 ish.
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lol for volume i got like 4000root79 / 2879 something.
i got owned.
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i got an answer the length of the page for the volume of the pyrmid LOL
Something with like 3 brackets and root 3's inside?
Me2. What was the approx for the volume? I got 250 ish.
yea it was about 256... but had a like 3 brackets everything was like squared and CRAZY
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Yeah it was like x=0.9xx? and volume was ~25x
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I got
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I had 4000 root 3 divided by 27 which is is 256.6
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For the volume I got
and
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For the volume I got
and
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Sounds right
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Finding the height of the pyramid was tricky. I used Pythagoras' theorem,,, anyone else?
I did too. You get 10rt sinx^2 - cosx^2..
So you have to simplify that to
10rt 1-2cosx^2 for the next question.
(Y) to those who do spesh! Yay for double angle formulae.
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YAY!
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Did you have to write the answer as 256.6 metres cubed? Or was it ok if you left it as
}{27})
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Did you have to write the answer as 256.6 metres cubed? Or was it ok if you left it as }{27})
Nah exact answer
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FAAAAAARK i got cos^2 x = 1/3
then i made cosx = 1/9 for some reason NOOOOO
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For the volume I got
and
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Yup. That's the answer I got.
Well 4000root(1/27)/3
Same thing
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I LOVE SPECIALIST!! HELPED ME SOLVE THE PYRAMID OF DEATH
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I had the exact value of 256.6, but it was about 3 lines long. Simplify function on calc was taking hours
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For the volume I got
and
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Sounds right
Yay thats what I got.
For the last part of that question...you just had to equate T=
right? And restrict x to [0,pi/2]?
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For the volume I got
and
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Sounds right
Yay thats what I got.
For the last part of that question...you just had to equate T=
right? And restrict x to [0,pi/2]?
The domain was (pi/4, pi/2). But that's what I did too.
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Anyone else throw away 13 marks?
i think.... but damn the multiple choice was easy!!! and so was question 1 long answer
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booyah ;D. got x=cos-1(root3/3) and V=4000(root3)/27
Anyone feel that doing spesh was a major advantage for this exam, especially the last question
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What values of x did you guys get for the chicks pyramid? the half volume one.
i think i got 0.5x and 1.xx
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Yeah, I felt that doing spesh really helped.
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I LOVE SPECIALIST!! HELPED ME SOLVE THE PYRAMID OF DEATH
HI5~~~~
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I felt doing further helped me :P doing that pyramid haha
i got x=0.80 something and x=1.23
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I felt doing further helped me :P doing that pyramid haha
i got x=0.80 something and x=1.23
me222 HI 5
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This exam will not ruin my mood :D Liverpool 2 Chelsea 0 :D
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This exam will not ruin my mood :D Liverpool 2 Chelsea 0 :D
Arsenal lose and I get that mindfuck of an exam. Not a good day by any means!
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This exam will not ruin my mood :D Liverpool 2 Chelsea 0 :D
Arsenal lose and I get that mindfuck of an exam. Not a good day by any means!
Arsenal lost too? oh haahaha exam completely forgottten :D
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haha I laughed on seeing the pyramid of death after the prediction yesterday
Haha as soon as i saw it my jaw dropped... the guys on the forum were right...
more or less :S
i just lost my anal virginity... and it was to vcaa :'(
I still haven't stopped bleeding... :'(
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yeah was re
haha I laughed on seeing the pyramid of death after the prediction yesterday
yeah was reading that i was so lol i should have so put it on
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I felt doing further helped me :P doing that pyramid haha
i got x=0.80 something and x=1.23
me222 HI 5
Hey, so did I! : )
I originally had x=2arctan(root 6 - root2 / somethingsomething) but when substituting that into cos(x), expecting a LOT of lag, it came out to be a nice root3/3 from there on, the rest was a lot easier to do, hoho :D
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how about the last question of this ?
about the daughter's damn pyramid that was half the size?
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i just lost my anal virginity... and it was to vcaa :'(
+volume of the pyramid
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how about the last question of this ?
about the daughter's damn pyramid that was half the size?
i got x=0.81 and x=1.23
can anyone confirm?
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how about the last question of this ?
about the daughter's damn pyramid that was half the size?
i got x=0.81 and x=1.23
can anyone confirm?
Yeah I got something like that
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how about the last question of this ?
about the daughter's damn pyramid that was half the size?
i got x=0.81 and x=1.23
can anyone confirm?
Something like that yes
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Would I lose marks if I converted the answer to degrees?
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Would I lose marks if I converted the answer to degrees?
as long as you didn't do any calculus with degrees i cant see why that would be wrong.
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did you guys get x=0.9554317??
and can anyone remember the equation of the volume?
was it -2cos^6(x)})
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It was that, but 4000 not 400?
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did you guys get x=0.9554317??
and can anyone remember the equation of the volume?
was it -2cos^6(x)})
PS: They asked for exact values, which was 4000sqrt(3)/27 which is ~ 0.9554317
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lol my methods teacher put in Victoria Jones in my 1st methods sac this year. Should've taken the hint...
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It was that, but 4000 not 400?
ahhh shit, gg -.-
did you guys get x=0.9554317??
and can anyone remember the equation of the volume?
was it -2cos^6(x)})
PS: They asked for exact values, which was 4000sqrt(3)/27 which is ~ 0.9554317
Yea I did put cos^-1(blah).
And that was the volume ^
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Yea I did put cos^-1(blah).
And that was the volume ^
Sweet as :)
cos^-1(1/root(3))?
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yeah i got that as my x co-ordinate :x
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hey question for all those people who got 4000 root 3 divided by 27 for this question, what calculator were you using???
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ti89
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you shoulda seen the answer the class pad pulled out.
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Classpad 330 for moi.
EDIT: However, the best method was to;
Find the derivative, let the numerator equal zero.
This lead to cos^2(x) = 1/3
Sub that into the volume equation to get; (4000/3)* sqrt[(1/9) - (2/27)]
NOTE: cos^4(x) = (cos^2(x))^2 = (1/3)^2 = 1/9. Much easier than isolating x and subbing back in, same for cos^6(x).
At this step did I use the calculator for the first time, simplifying the above term gave 4000sqrt(3)/27 :)
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My calc was being gay, and it finally gave me this answer in like the last 3 mins...
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you shoulda seen the answer the class pad pulled out.
were u using classpad 330 because i got no solution. + no one in our school got it and we all use classpad 330, not even the teacher, so i'm think that there might have been a calculator issue on the classpad with this question
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Classpad 330 for moi.
EDIT: However, the best method was to;
Find the derivative, let the numerator equal zero.
This lead to cos^2(x) = 1/3
Sub that into the volume equation to get; (4000/3)* sqrt[(1/9) - (2/27)]
NOTE: cos^4(x) = (cos^2(x))^2 = (1/3)^2 = 1/9. Much easier than isolating x and subbing back in, same for cos^6(x).
At this step did I use the calculator for the first time, simplifying the above term gave 4000sqrt(3)/27 :)
did u try it on your calculator first and get no solutions or was that just me???
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you shoulda seen the answer the class pad pulled out.
were u using classpad 330 because i got no solution. + no one in our school got it and we all use classpad 330, not even the teacher, so i'm think that there might have been a calculator issue on the classpad with this question
i have the 330 but i got an answer that was the length of the page, but i think it is the correct one, although i doubt VCAA will reward a mark for it
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Classpad 330 for moi.
EDIT: However, the best method was to;
Find the derivative, let the numerator equal zero.
This lead to cos^2(x) = 1/3
Sub that into the volume equation to get; (4000/3)* sqrt[(1/9) - (2/27)]
NOTE: cos^4(x) = (cos^2(x))^2 = (1/3)^2 = 1/9. Much easier than isolating x and subbing back in, same for cos^6(x).
At this step did I use the calculator for the first time, simplifying the above term gave 4000sqrt(3)/27 :)
did u try it on your calculator first and get no solutions or was that just me???
I've always preferred manual methods over the CAS, and it's been a negative all throughout the year for me. Wasting time doing it by hand when others did it on the calc, but it paid off today! Didn't bother with the calc till I got to that very last part. :)
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The Pyramid of Death :D
Oh my god. Do. Not. Jinx.
this would be hilarious if it wasnt so tragically ironic
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I felt doing further helped me :P doing that pyramid haha
i got x=0.80 something and x=1.23
I have that, just re did the question and got the same as well. iTute's answers don't seem to correlate though.
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The Pyramid of Death :D
Oh my god. Do. Not. Jinx.
this would be hilarious if it wasnt so tragically ironic
LOL!!