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VCE Stuff => Victorian Technical Score Discussion => Topic started by: Slumdawg on November 08, 2010, 04:30:12 pm

Title: PREREQUISITES
Post by: Slumdawg on November 08, 2010, 04:30:12 pm
If you get a little bit below the required score for a prerequisite  does that mean you're automatically disqualified from having a chance at getting in?

For instance, biomed needs 25 in methods. These exams were shockers. I'm nervous I didn't get that  :( :( I have no idea how bad I actually did cos the exams were quite tricky, so who knows whether the low cut offs will save me. Let's say I get a 24 or 23 or 22 raw.. What would happen ? :S I saw that if you don't get a 25 in methods you need to do an "introduction to mathematics" instead in biomed?? So this is making me think maybe you can get in but you need to do an extra subject..? So if I got the clearly-in atar but one of the prereq scores was a bit lower could I still get in?

Help would be appreciated. Thanks :)
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: Slumdawg on November 08, 2010, 08:18:00 pm
Does anybody know? :(
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: happyhappyland on November 08, 2010, 08:22:30 pm
Some unis are quite strict on these... but yeh i think you ahve to contact the uni about it or VTAC.
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: Slumdawg on November 08, 2010, 08:32:26 pm
Some unis are quite strict on these... but yeh i think you ahve to contact the uni about it or VTAC.
Oh ok. I'll do that after exams. Thanks :)
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: chem-nerd on November 08, 2010, 08:39:09 pm
They first look at applicants who have met the prerequisites and then order them by ATAR to determine the clearly in and middle band.  

In courses with less demand they may be a little more lenient (but this is not common) there is plenty of scrutiny of prerequisites and selection processes and fair entry into courses.
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: Slumdawg on November 08, 2010, 08:41:20 pm
They first look at applicants who have met the prerequisites and then order them by ATAR to determine the clearly in and middle band. 

In courses with less demand they may be a little more lenient (but this is not common) there is plenty of scrutiny of prerequisites and selection processes and fair entry into courses.
arghhh. Okay. Praying I got at least 25 then :(
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: _avO on November 08, 2010, 08:41:41 pm
My friend got 29 for English and got into Engineering. Anything is possible :)
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: Slumdawg on November 08, 2010, 08:43:29 pm
My friend got 29 for English and got into Engineering. Anything is possible :)
Haha well I dunno realistically where my methods score stands, that's why it's scary.. I wanted some reassurance, although I did kinda know prerequisites are looked upon quite strictly.
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: Russ on November 08, 2010, 08:44:35 pm

I saw that if you don't get a 25 in methods you need to do an "introduction to mathematics" instead in biomed?? So this is making me think maybe you can get in but you need to do an extra subject..?


Methods has only just become a prereq for the course, it used to be just chemistry. I suspect that's a relic from back then.
If you don't meet the prereq then I'm not sure about what would happen, I doubt you'd be offered a place (that said, a hard exam is hard for the whole state so relax)
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: Gloamglozer on November 09, 2010, 09:30:08 am
Generally, this is what happens:

If you do not meet the required minimum study score for a pre-requisite subject or do not complete the pre-requisite subject(s), there is no way you will be offered a place in the course.

However, with regards to leniency as mentioned before, only selection officers have the power to waiver them (and generally that's not done to year 12 students).
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: Slumdawg on November 09, 2010, 09:36:06 am
Generally, this is what happens:

If you do not meet the required minimum study score for a pre-requisite subject or do not complete the pre-requisite subject(s), there is no way you will be offered a place in the course.

However, with regards to leniency as mentioned before, only selection officers have the power to waiver them (and generally that's not done to year 12 students).
Oh ok. Praying I will meet the requirements then :(  Thanks for the info though.
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: xoxogossipgirl on November 09, 2010, 02:35:02 pm
on the topic of prereqs,
the scores you have to meet for prereqs are raw scores, right?
one of my friends thinks he could get into his course with a minimum SS of 25 in methods if he gets raw 19 and it goes up to 25. i didn't think that was right..
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: jimmy999 on November 09, 2010, 02:45:56 pm
ALL prereqs are based on raw scores. It's unfair to base it on scaled scores because scaling changes every year.

By the sounds of it a lot of people went badly on the Methods exams. Hence if you did slightly better than those people, then you should get at least 25
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: Ghost! on November 14, 2010, 11:55:55 pm
I've got a question about Prereqs..

If there wasn't a lot of room in a course, and they had the choice of a few student's who had all met the Prerequisite score, would the Uni just pick the student with the higher score?
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: xoxogossipgirl on November 15, 2010, 10:43:27 am
If you're talking about the clearly in ATAR not prerequisites..?
it increases, that's why it's not the same every year.
Ie if arts at melb suddenly had heaps more applicants all with ATARs above say 92, the clearly in would increase.
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: Gloamglozer on November 15, 2010, 12:20:36 pm
I've got a question about Prereqs..

If there wasn't a lot of room in a course, and they had the choice of a few student's who had all met the Prerequisite score, would the Uni just pick the student with the higher score?

Then yes, they'll just rank the students and select from top to bottom and where they make the cut will be the Clearly-In ATAR (provided of course there are no SEAS applications and any other special consideration involved).
Title: Re: PREREQUISITES
Post by: Ghost! on November 16, 2010, 07:20:30 pm
Thankyouuuuu GG :)