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VCE Stuff => VCE Technology => VCE Mathematics/Science/Technology => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Computing: Data Analytics => Topic started by: jsimmo on May 12, 2008, 01:50:53 pm
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I got a 45/50 for Outcome 1?? If I get the same marks on the other outcomes and a B/A on the exam can I still get a 40? :-\
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Well done, that's a pretty good result, although you would be looking at possibly A/A+ on the exam, not 100% sure though. =)
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Yeah thanks.. I just found out she made a mistake and forgot to give me an extra 2 marks lol so that's a 47/50 now
Everyone in my class got 0-30, when VCAA does the calculations would my mark go up or down?
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Yeah thanks.. I just found out she made a mistake and forgot to give me an extra 2 marks lol so that's a 47/50 now
Everyone in my class got 0-30, when VCAA does the calculations would my mark go up or down?
It'll all depend on ranking. If you're able to maintain first rank (and judging by those marks, that looks likely), then your SAC marks will be moderated based upon your exam score. Your SAC mark should be equivalent to the highest exam score achieved at your school.
As for whether you're able to get a 40+ with those marks -- no, you wouldn't be able to get a 40+, unless you get an A+ on the exam (or a high A with high A+ SAC scores). But based on your SAC performance, there's no reason why you couldn't get an A+ on the exam.
For reference, I averaged 88% for my SACs (but ranked #1), and still received a study score of 43.
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Yeah thanks.. I just found out she made a mistake and forgot to give me an extra 2 marks lol so that's a 47/50 now
Everyone in my class got 0-30, when VCAA does the calculations would my mark go up or down?
Not sure about this but um since you're ranked first, your mark wont go up or down, its those in the middle band who's marks will change. Although it will depend on your exam performance as well ^_^
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Yeah thanks.. I just found out she made a mistake and forgot to give me an extra 2 marks lol so that's a 47/50 now
Everyone in my class got 0-30, when VCAA does the calculations would my mark go up or down?
It'll all depend on ranking. If you're able to maintain first rank (and judging by those marks, that looks likely), then your SAC marks will be moderated based upon your exam score. Your SAC mark should be equivalent to the highest exam score achieved at your school.
As for whether you're able to get a 40+ with those marks -- no, you wouldn't be able to get a 40+, unless you get an A+ on the exam (or a high A with high A+ SAC scores). But based on your SAC performance, there's no reason why you couldn't get an A+ on the exam.
For reference, I averaged 88% for my SACs (but ranked #1), and still received a study score of 43.
So if I stay at #1 and don't get the highest exam score, will my exam score get pushed up to the person who did get the highest score?
You got an awesome SS, i'd be very happy with a 43. So you got an A+ for your exam? Do you know what %?
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Nope, your exam score will remain the same regardless of your SAC scores. But say for instance, you stay at #1 for Unit 3 & 4, and a person in your school gets a 100% on the exam whilst you get 85% on your exam.. You would receive their 100% for your SAC marks, but keep your exam score.
I ended up with an A+ A+ A+, my exam score pushed up my SACs basically. I haven't a clue what mark I got on the exam, but it's a very easy exam in that you can drop a lot of marks whilst still getting an A+. I really only did 30mins of revision straight before the exam and got those marks -- so I'm sure with some effort you'd have no problem geting an A+.
edit: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2007/section3/vce_it_applications_ga07.pdf
Last year the A+ threshold was 143/180 (71.5/90).
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Nope, your exam score will remain the same regardless of your SAC scores. But say for instance, you stay at #1 for Unit 3 & 4, and a person in your school gets a 100% on the exam whilst you get 85% on your exam.. You would receive their 100% for your SAC marks, but keep your exam score.
I ended up with an A+ A+ A+, my exam score pushed up my SACs basically. I haven't a clue what mark I got on the exam, but it's a very easy exam in that you can drop a lot of marks whilst still getting an A+. I really only did 30mins of revision straight before the exam and got those marks -- so I'm sure with some effort you'd have no problem geting an A+.
edit: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2007/section3/vce_it_applications_ga07.pdf
Last year the A+ threshold was 143/180 (71.5/90).
Wow thats a pretty low mark for an A+ standard (79%).. I'm really hoping for a 40 for this subject and i'm pretty confident I will get A+ on all SACs and an A/A+ on the exam. I just need to do heaps of practice exams to develop an understanding of all types of questions that could be asked because there seems to be a lot of stuff that could be tested. I also need to go over how to structure responses because I always seem to answer my IT questions partially which doesn't give me the full marks.
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well the fact that you are already looking at practice exams means you are half way there to achieving a 40+ well done on your sac results and im sure you'll have no problem in attaining your goal. good luck and all the best :)
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It's good that you're putting emphasis on the structure of your responses. Checking the assessment report could help in that department. But my main advice would be not to fall into the trap that many IT kids do, which is focusing on the technical side of things (i.e, the solution). Focus on putting the question into context, providing a solution and then emphasizing how this solution would satisfy an organisation's needs. I can give you an example of how I'd answer a question from last year's exam, if you'd like.
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Yeah an example would good thanks. Haha thanks Clinton for the motivation.
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Last question of the 2007 exam:
Encryption
Encryption prevents hackers or other unscrupulous people from intercepting information by scrambling data before it is sent and then having an encryption key that only allows the head office to descramble the information. This is ideal because without such protection, it is possible that hackers or competitors may obtain and use this information in a way that may be of financial detriment to the organisation.
Usually, you'd want to use the organisation's name at all costs. In this case, though, the exam never stated the organisation's name. But overall, my emphasis when providing an answer is to state how information systems apply to an organisation, rather than simply describing how information systems work.
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ughh i screwed up my first SAC, 36/50 :-\, need to make up for it in the next one
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ughh i screwed up my first SAC, 36/50 =S
Aww, better luck next sac :)
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Good job jsimmo, and I’m sure you’ll do better on your next sac, Redwan :)
May as well join in – 91% for the first SAC. Ranked first, second highest mark was a 78%. :D
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Yeah, I also got 47/50. I'm pretty happy with it and I really hope that I can maintain that sort of level in the subject.
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i got 84/100 but im STILL RANK 1
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I still havent done outcome one yet- the teacher swaped it around with outcome two. Outcome two was not too bad- we used dreamweaver to make a website for a specific company. Still waiting on my score :P
We are starting outcome one soon- any tips? we are goin to be using MS Access- what a drain :buck2:
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I still havent done outcome one yet- the teacher swaped it around with outcome two. Outcome two was not too bad- we used dreamweaver to make a website for a specific company. Still waiting on my score :P
We are starting outcome one soon- any tips? we are goin to be using MS Access- what a drain :buck2:
God help you with access its sooooooooooooooooo tedious >.< one small mistake and you have to start whatever you're doing again... my tip, write everything down, PLAN PLAN PLAN ^_^
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I still havent done outcome one yet- the teacher swaped it around with outcome two. Outcome two was not too bad- we used dreamweaver to make a website for a specific company. Still waiting on my score :P
We are starting outcome one soon- any tips? we are goin to be using MS Access- what a drain :buck2:
God help you with access its sooooooooooooooooo tedious >.< one small mistake and you have to start whatever you're doing again...
its not THAT bad....
remember, the focus is: PAPERWORK. the digital product is not THAT important. crap digital product + awesome evaluation + good paperwork > awesome digital product + little paperwork.
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Lol ^_^ I'm just trying to scare him haha =P
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I still havent done outcome one yet- the teacher swaped it around with outcome two. Outcome two was not too bad- we used dreamweaver to make a website for a specific company. Still waiting on my score :P
We are starting outcome one soon- any tips? we are goin to be using MS Access- what a drain :buck2:
God help you with access its sooooooooooooooooo tedious >.< one small mistake and you have to start whatever you're doing again...
its not THAT bad....
remember, the focus is: PAPERWORK. the digital product is not THAT important. crap digital product + awesome evaluation + good paperwork > awesome digital product + little paperwork.
Yeah, make sure you put a lot of effort into the paperwork.
My word count for ALL my documents (analyse, design, develop, test, document, evaluate) was somewhere like 20,000 words (remember that includes numbers). I put in a ridiculous amount of effort (I did most of mine at home because I just remembered the questions and saved my work on my USB). I think one day I spent something like 8 hours on it LOL..
It was the biggest (and most time consuming) SAC/project I have ever done in my whole 12 years of schooling. I missed out on 3 lazy marks (IPO chart) - pretty minor mistake but i'm happy I still got a 47/50 and ranked #1
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LOL- databases :D . I intend to plan most of it at home before the sac starts. It cant be that hard right? Honestly im not that scared about it, only concerned about making any small database mistakes.
The thing is i consider myself a sort of whizz when it come to computers and technology ......but i just hate these tedious things like databases. Also mind you i never did IT 1+2, so im still a noob to the IT subject.
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LOL- databases :D . I intend to plan most of it at home before the sac starts. It cant be that hard right? Honestly im not that scared about it, only concerned about making any small database mistakes.
The thing is i consider myself a sort of whizz when it come to computers and technology ......but i just hate these tedious things like databases. Also mind you i never did IT 1+2, so im still a noob to the IT subject.
What do you mean 'I intend to plan most of it at home before the sac starts'?
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database sac is long and very shitty because you have to be very dead on with your paperwork to get a good mark, i was really slack with my mock up diagram and IPO chart and I lost 10 marks from them
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the paperwork is not exactly all database design.
stuff you need to do:
1. company structure, organisational goals, problem description
2. solution description, intended effects, IPO/flow chart [if required]
3. project planning, gantt chart, error log
4. database design
5. testing
6. evaluation [VERY IMPORTANT]
in evaluation, concentrate on the criterias. make sure that anything you have not fully met is discussed in the evaluation, and explain why.
as well as go in to the efficiency + effectiveness stuff, and talk about accuracy of your project planning.
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jsimmo- i mean i will prepare a mock sac that is very similar to what is expected in the real sac. Hopefully i can get the structure looked over by my teach and simply just practise..... and maybe if allowed to i will bring my practice one with me for reference. Also given that the SAC is spanning over more than a lesson i can work on any problems i encounter during the SAC at home so that when i get back to school i already know the answer to my problems and can just get going from there.
mao- thanks for the advice, yeah your right about the evaluation part.
LOL, now i feel scared about the SAC :o
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jsimmo- i mean i will prepare a mock sac that is very similar to what is expected in the real sac. Hopefully i can get the structure looked over by my teach and simply just practise..... and maybe if allowed to i will bring my practice one with me for reference. Also given that the SAC is spanning over more than a lesson i can work on any problems i encounter during the SAC at home so that when i get back to school i already know the answer to my problems and can just get going from there.
mao- thanks for the advice, yeah your right about the evaluation part.
LOL, now i feel scared about the SAC :o
Yeah thats what I did, my teacher gave us a practice SAC to do and then I basically modelled the real SAC on the practice SAC.
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jsimmo- i mean i will prepare a mock sac that is very similar to what is expected in the real sac. Hopefully i can get the structure looked over by my teach and simply just practise..... and maybe if allowed to i will bring my practice one with me for reference. Also given that the SAC is spanning over more than a lesson i can work on any problems i encounter during the SAC at home so that when i get back to school i already know the answer to my problems and can just get going from there.
mao- thanks for the advice, yeah your right about the evaluation part.
LOL, now i feel scared about the SAC :o
Yeah thats what I did, my teacher gave us a practice SAC to do and then I basically modelled the real SAC on the practice SAC.
yep great minds think alike :P
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Also remember in your evaluation to relate back to the organisations goals that you mentioned earlier in the write up. That's where I lost a few little points.
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Do you fellows have to do ERDs for your database?
I never did, but I find them extremely useful in planning out my databases. It's a shame they don't teach you the fundamentals of database design at VCE level, it makes them so much less painful to work with.
Perhaps I should write a quick tutorial on it.
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Do you fellows have to do ERDs for your database?
I never did, but I find them extremely useful in planning out my databases. It's a shame they don't teach you the fundamentals of database design at VCE level, it makes them so much less painful to work with.
Perhaps I should write a quick tutorial on it.
Nope, we don't have to do one - actually never have heard of them before until you mentioned it ::)
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i wish software development section was active as this
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i wish software development section was active as this
As do I :(