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VCE Stuff => Victorian Technical Score Discussion => Topic started by: Maja on November 07, 2007, 03:54:56 pm
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Hey guys i was wondering how hard is it to get an enter of 70
My Subjects
Accounting
English
Legal Studies
Further Maths
IT Applications
For Accounting Mid Year i got a B
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An enter of anything is possible with all subjects. It's how good you are at them!
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If you have studied for them you will get 70
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Depends on how well you've done for your SACs. There's a lot of factors that determine it really, such as: SAC and Exam marks (obviously), level of motivation to study, organization of time, and how well you really want to get the ENTER that you want. If you want it badly you'll work hard enough for it. A lot of people have probably told you that. B-B+ all around would be good for a 70. Good luck! Oh and it's not too late to cram if you haven't started studying :wink:
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thanks guys!
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The 2006 ENTER report says you needed 128.8 to get an ENTER of 70.00.
This means you're probably looking at getting ~31 scaled for all your subjects to get that ENTER.
As a guide, 31 is probably an average of C+/B.
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An enter of anything is possible with all subjects. It's how good you are at them!
i don't think thats quite what they was looking for..
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An enter of anything is possible with all subjects. It's how good you are at them!
99.95, 2006 aggregate required: 211
This means you need a subject that scales above 50.
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An enter of anything is possible with all subjects. It's how good you are at them!
I am very proud to tell you that your careers teacher is spreading fud.
If you are able to do the asian 5 (e.g. you realistically think you can score >34 at spesh) I would advise that you do so, as the scaling really does help.
Don't do what you "like" doing, don't do what you "think" you are good at, just do asian 5.
Take it from someone who regrets not doing full azn 5.
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azn 5? lol
Physics, spec, methods, LOTE, ... esl ? lol
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You missed Chemistry.
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Asian 5 is probably the pwn-est subject combination. :mrgreen:
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I knew somebody who did 2maths, French, Jap, Latin
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An enter of anything is possible with all subjects. It's how good you are at them!
I am very proud to tell you that your careers teacher is spreading fud.
If you are able to do the asian 5 (e.g. you realistically think you can score >34 at spesh) I would advise that you do so, as the scaling really does help.
Don't do what you "like" doing, don't do what you "think" you are good at, just do asian 5.
Take it from someone who regrets not doing full azn 5.
totally agree with this, doing what you 'like' is such bs if you want a good score(i know not in all cases), you need the subjects that scale up, becuase if your committed and reasonably intelligent you will get a good score that scales up nicely, opposed to a good score that scales down
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indeed
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you need 4 study scores of 30 to get 68
so i guess if you get over this your a-o-k
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I disagree. If I had done chem or physics, I would have really struggled to study because I would be bored as hell. I love french, so it doesn't really seem like 'work' to study for it. I do regret not doing maths though. Obviously people wanting 99.95 might have to look at things a bit differently, otherwise I'd say generally do subjects you like. No point spending 2 years doing subjects you don't enjoy imo. obviously noone on this site will agree haha
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i wish id picked subjects that are easy to study for, rather than juust the ones i find interesting.
for example. my 'type' of subjects = eco, revs, english = a bitch to study for. so while i was interested in class, i couldnt bring myself to study for them, ultiamtely gona go shit cos i didnt do enough, even though they're the ones i find interesting. (althoug english is kind of different. i just fucked that up lol)
then other ones. chem, maths = not the subjects i like, yet i find myself much more willing to study for them come exam time cos its so much easier to do chem and methods prac papers than doing ones for the subjects above. so iv wasted all this time doing methods study when i shouldve been doing eco.
its weird.
french is different though. i love it hence i study for it. but thats cos its more than a school subject, i work for that because i genuinely want to improve my french and become fluent eventually.
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I disagree. If I had done chem or physics, I would have really struggled to study because I would be bored as hell. I love french, so it doesn't really seem like 'work' to study for it. I do regret not doing maths though. Obviously people wanting 99.95 might have to look at things a bit differently, otherwise I'd say generally do subjects you like. No point spending 2 years doing subjects you don't enjoy imo. obviously noone on this site will agree haha
.... I agree! lol
I'd much rather do topics I'm interested in and which will help me. It's why I chose international studies over specialist, and I don't regret it even tho it means it's impossible for me to get high 99s ... cos face it, once uni starts nobody's gonna give a damn what your ENTER was. No point me torturing myself with maths which I really don't enjoy when I can learn about international affairs which I find fascinating ... and useful :)
(disclaimer: I'm NOT saying maths isn't useful :P)
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azn 5? lol
Physics, spec, methods, LOTE, ... esl ? lol
Specialist, Methods, Physics, Chemistry [or Biology], English [or ESL].
Asian 5 is probably the pwn-est subject combination. :mrgreen:
Yep :D
*points to my subjects* :P
Except I'm really gonna screw up Chemistry... I have no idea why I chose it, I hate it :P
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I disagree. If I had done chem or physics, I would have really struggled to study because I would be bored as hell. I love french, so it doesn't really seem like 'work' to study for it. I do regret not doing maths though. Obviously people wanting 99.95 might have to look at things a bit differently, otherwise I'd say generally do subjects you like. No point spending 2 years doing subjects you don't enjoy imo. obviously noone on this site will agree haha
.... I agree! lol
I'd much rather do topics I'm interested in and which will help me. It's why I chose international studies over specialist, and I don't regret it even tho it means it's impossible for me to get high 99s ... cos face it, once uni starts nobody's gonna give a damn what your ENTER was. No point me torturing myself with maths which I really don't enjoy when I can learn about international affairs which I find fascinating ... and useful :)
(disclaimer: I'm NOT saying maths isn't useful :P)
Yeah I agree too, I think people will do better on subjects which they actually enjoy because they won't get bored of it and procrastinate. You took the words out of my mouth ninwa :)
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For the role of ENTER maximisation, the Asian five have proved to be very strong.
Whether you value ENTER maximisation as a priority or not, is a different story, and a personal choice.
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For the role of ENTER maximisation, the Asian five have proved to be very strong.
Whether you value ENTER maximisation as a priority or not, is a different story, and a personal choice.
Not necessarily, if you're someone who isn't good at maths/sciences. Strawbaby did well without the asian 5, and that didn't mean she didn't value 'enter maximisation', she just knew that she would get a better enter doing the subjects she did do
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I'm talking about technical ENTER maximisation, not personal maximisation. I'm saying, if you're a robot, and you can push yourself beyond emotional boundaries such as: "I work better because I like this subject," you will do best in Asian 5. For people where that problem is next to non-existent, or even a positive effect (e.g: people who like maths and science), then the Asian 5 is definitely one of the best subject combinations to choose.
I don't think she did any subjects that scaled above 50.
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I'm talking about technical ENTER maximisation, not personal maximisation. I'm saying, if you're a robot, and you can push yourself beyond emotional boundaries such as: "I work better because I like this subject," you will do best in Asian 5. For people where that problem is next to non-existent, or even a positive effect (e.g: people who like maths and science), then the Asian 5 is definitely one of the best subject combinations to choose.
I don't think she did any subjects that scaled above 50.
But it's not always about liking the subject or pushing yourself beyond emotional boundaries, some people just aren't good at maths or sciences, but are capable of high scores in subjects such as lit, eng, art (eg.strawbaby) I understand where you're coming from, and I know you probably came from a school of generally smart people for whom this rule may have suited. At my school, alot of people choose spec/chem/physics/methods etc. because of the scaling, and the majority do really poorly. Whilst they may scale well, you have to be good at them to profit from the scaling.
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I don't know if this is right, but I believe all people are capable of learning maths and science as they're very systematic and logical. Maybe they're just not putting in the effort? I don't know. It's much harder to get top scores in English and such, where I think natural inclination plays a greater role.
Just a thought.
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I don't know if this is right, but I believe all people are capable of learning maths and science as they're very systematic and logical. Maybe they're just not putting in the effort? I don't know. It's much harder to get top scores in English and such, where I think natural inclination plays a greater role.
Just a thought.
Nah I honestly think some people just don't have a 'maths brain'. And for those who are naturally inclined to do well in english type subjects, it would be stupid to do the asian 5 combo just because 'it's the only way to get 99.95', which is an unrealistic score for most of us anyway.
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To be honest, it's all comes down to what subjects you're actually good at, but saying that I think you can do anything you set your mind on doing. Anyone can be good at any subject if they are willing to push themselves.
At the end of the day it all comes down to what you want to do after VCE.
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To be honest, it's all comes down to what subjects you're actually good at, but saying that I think you can do anything you set your mind on doing. Anyone can be good at any subject if they are willing to push themselves.
At the end of the day it all comes down to what you want to do after VCE.
Well, I put more effort in english than all my other subjects combined and still gonna get a crap mark, so maybe not. :wink:
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To be honest, it's all comes down to what subjects you're actually good at, but saying that I think you can do anything you set your mind on doing. Anyone can be good at any subject if they are willing to push themselves.
At the end of the day it all comes down to what you want to do after VCE.
Well, I put more effort in english than all my other subjects combined and still gonna get a crap mark, so maybe not. :wink:
Lol, who knows what you got for the exam, you're probably underestimating your performance... Oh and btw, how much effort did you put in??
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Usually about 2 hours every 2 days (I have english 3 times a week). Before SACs sometimes 6 hours or so. I know before the media 3 essays + 1 POV I would've put in like 15 hours. :oops:
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Usually about 2 hours every 2 days (I have english 3 times a week). Before SACs sometimes 6 hours or so. I know before the media 3 essays + 1 POV I would've put in like 15 hours. :oops:
What about the exam ??
What exactly were you doing though?
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i have the same problem as Ahmad :(
Shithouse at english, but strong in all my other subjects.
Shits me that eng has to be in top 4... :(:@
Ive put in so much work to english this year... at least double any other subject, but still cant bring my essays above 80% or so... i rocked orals/creative because theyre not as analysissy lol
I spent all of swot vac practicing Eng + ignoring other subjects... its seemed to work out well lol .
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I started working hard in english in year 10 and I think that helped a bit.
Like at the start of year 10 I tried really hard and got B+, and now when I try really hard I get A+ and stuff.
Back in the day was good, I remember I never studied for science and only spent the first half of the lesson doing tests and still aced things xD
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lololol
year 10 and 11 english i woudl play games on my calculator...
or read a book ... i used to read a lot in class... :$
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Same. Pre-year 12 HS was a breeze, lol. No study at all, haha.
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they didnt teach us how to write propper essays till year 10 haha, pre year 11, was the biggest bludge ever, i miss those days. Study was non existent.
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I never used to study, and I'd get full marks. Lol.
But now I semi-study and I lose a few marks. :(
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what do u call it if you do the "asian 5" but your not asian? lol
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what do u call it if you do the "asian 5" but your not asian? lol
wannabe asian 5? lol i dunno :P
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what do u call it if you do the "asian 5" but your not asian? lol
Heh, I never thought of that.
It's usually just referred to as "the subjects that the smart kids do" :P
But, well, I'm not smart, so that's not really a good name for it :P
I never used to study, and I'd get full marks. Lol.
But now I semi-study and I lose a few marks. :(
Wooo
Someone else that did the same thing as me.
I got really good marks last year (as well as this year) without studying :P
This year I actually studied a little for exams.
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what do u call it if you do the "asian 5" but your not asian? lol
The suicide 5. I think.
:(
Haha, nah.
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what do u call it if you do the "asian 5" but your not asian? lol
cara.mel :wink:
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I had a dream the other night about a school that only taught the asian 5 lol
Was full of asians believe it or not lol
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I had a dream the other night about a school that only taught the asian 5 lol
Was full of asians believe it or not lol
Haha lol, interesting ..
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Can schools do that? Any laws that prohibit that?
In my dream they poached the best teachers from all the schools in VIC and had so many 99's it wasnt funny. lol