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Title: Exam is amongst us!
Post by: jto1292 on November 11, 2010, 12:37:55 pm
What's everyone doing to prep?  :D

I should really get onto listening practice!
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Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on November 11, 2010, 12:41:57 pm
Good luck pplz~

Make sure the school bell doesn't ring during listening or gg.
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Post by: Fyrefly on November 11, 2010, 03:18:16 pm
Good luck pplz~

Make sure the school bell doesn't ring during listening or gg.

+1
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Post by: jto1292 on November 11, 2010, 03:21:10 pm
I'm not too stressed about this, but then again, I only want a 32-35... I hope it's achievable!
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Post by: menashiiii on November 12, 2010, 12:14:29 pm
I'm not too stressed about this, but then again, I only want a 32-35... I hope it's achievable!
only need a decent sac average to get this right..?
B+ or A
then an A on the exam?
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Post by: jto1292 on November 12, 2010, 12:31:35 pm
I think that's about right. I lack motivation to study. The only thing I can think of doing is listening practise... Man, I'm so not going to do well :(
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Post by: menashiiii on November 12, 2010, 02:40:54 pm
I think that's about right. I lack motivation to study. The only thing I can think of doing is listening practise... Man, I'm so not going to do well :(
hahaha
this is true! went to school today to 'study', couldn't.
went to maccas and saw friends who had finished...
it really cut deep, that we have to study for another 3 days...
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Post by: jto1292 on November 12, 2010, 03:39:09 pm
Bad! What exactly are you gonna do for revision? I'm stuck on what to do, so I'm watching CardCaptor Sakura in Japanese xD. Since it's very plain, I don't think it's helpful. My reasoning is that it's still Japanese exposure. hahaha
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Post by: menashiiii on November 12, 2010, 03:46:03 pm
hahahah thats good ;)

uhhhh have no idea?!
probz alot of listening because thats my worst..
then some reading from all the jltav and vcaa exams
and practice a few writing parts..
well ill try to anyway..
we'll see what i actually do!

just try to do as much as you can! :D
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Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on November 12, 2010, 06:21:16 pm
Write a bunch of Essays :D All the topics are the same anyway.

Have you guys done all the JLTAV/Leading Edge/VCAA exams?

If the energy just isn't there just watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fxqUaycAho for an energy boost.
Title: Re: Exam is amongst us!
Post by: jto1292 on November 12, 2010, 06:22:48 pm
KAWAII NEE!
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Post by: jto1292 on November 12, 2010, 07:13:00 pm
Okey what happens when I totally fail the listen, and I got a B+ (let's say) on my oral. And the rest of the exam is well answered... Will that get me less than a B for this exam?
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Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on November 12, 2010, 07:24:28 pm
Okey what happens when I totally fail the listen, and I got a B+ (let's say) on my oral. And the rest of the exam is well answered... Will that get me less than a B for this exam?

There's no distinction between marks for the oral or the written~ As long as the written + oral gets you marks in the B range you'll get a B overall for your Graded Assesment 3

Oral is out of 100, Written is out of 300. In 2009 you needed at least 143/400 (Oral + Written combined) for a B, so you could lose a total of 257/400 marks across your oral and written.

So potentially you could have gotten 50/100 for the oral, and 93/300 (23.35/75) on the written exam for a B, which is prettttty low.

Of course you don't want a B because it will destroy your study score and probably drag you sub 30.

EDIT: added actual numbers from http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/statistics/2009/section3/vce_lote_japanese_2nd_lang_ga09.pdf
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Post by: mystikal on November 12, 2010, 07:29:12 pm
you guys shud be ok... just chillax the night before.... listen to some j pop or watch some anime/ jdrama =) theres not much u can do now... since japanese exam = completely different every year so anything can happen there in terms of content... so no point memorising anything probably be like 10% chance u will use it in exam since japanese = gradual learning for exams. anyways good luck ganbatte... mina san wa atama ga ii desu. =) hope thats right its been 2 years since ive done jap haha
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Post by: jto1292 on November 12, 2010, 07:31:33 pm
Looks like I'm not going to get that 33 =.=" I will work some more! YEY
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Post by: jto1292 on November 12, 2010, 07:45:11 pm
Is an A achievable? Especially since I suck at listening. Actually that's an exaggeration. I'm not terrible, but I'm not the best. And I think I got a B+/A for my oral. My sacs are looking okey. EXCEPT FOR THIS HORROR ONE. Everyone in the class got like Es and Ds for it. Some failed. IT was a listening. We were studying recycling systems in Japan, and the listening, you'd expect it to be about it. But no. My teacher made it about frikken cranes. All but one kid missed the point of the sac completely. BECAUSE THE KEY WORD WASN'T IN THE DICTIONARY/NO-ONE HEARD IT PROPERLY TO LOOK IT UP.
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Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on November 12, 2010, 07:49:59 pm
Is an A achievable? Especially since I suck at listening. Actually that's an exaggeration. I'm not terrible, but I'm not the best. And I think I got a B+/A for my oral. My sacs are looking okey. EXCEPT FOR THIS HORROR ONE. Everyone in the class got like Es and Ds for it. Some failed. IT was a listening. We were studying recycling systems in Japan, and the listening, you'd expect it to be about it. But no. My teacher made it about frikken cranes. All but one kid missed the point of the sac completely. BECAUSE THE KEY WORD WASN'T IN THE DICTIONARY/NO-ONE HEARD IT PROPERLY TO LOOK IT UP.

Does your school have a good record at Japanese? Jap seems to be one of those subjects where the same schools do well every year.
Title: Re: Exam is amongst us!
Post by: jto1292 on November 12, 2010, 07:58:25 pm
My school sits at 24 up to 33 on an average year. We're had high 30s and 1 40 in our history. Yes. We are a lower end Japanese-Teaching school.
Title: Re: Exam is amongst us!
Post by: menashiiii on November 12, 2010, 08:10:54 pm
yeh is an A achieveable for me..
my school is usually ave..
but recently we've been getting good scores
and im pretty sure this year, we'll get at least 7 over 40 maybe 10..

but yeh?
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Post by: onerealsmartass on November 13, 2010, 11:05:43 pm
yeh is an A achieveable for me..
my school is usually ave..
but recently we've been getting good scores
and im pretty sure this year, we'll get at least 7 over 40 maybe 10..

but yeh?
shite! thats awesome, you must have a 'stronger' cohort.
my cohort next year will only be 10 students :) and id say ill end up ebing ranked 2-3 :)
i think we do average or just above average, but my teacher reckons we got a good cohort to do well with.
Any tips for jap 3/4?
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Post by: ryanrulz on November 13, 2010, 11:55:13 pm
@jto1292: I LAUGH AT YOU!!! =]
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Post by: jto1292 on November 14, 2010, 11:05:23 am
Shutup, Ryan xD Also, Can anyone post up any practise essays they've done? Just so that I can sort of see what scores well, how to approach questions, yada yada...
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Post by: sonnypls on November 14, 2010, 01:12:57 pm
STUPID PUBLIC SCHOOLS
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Post by: rainbowfish on November 14, 2010, 07:14:15 pm
Shutup, Ryan xD Also, Can anyone post up any practise essays they've done? Just so that I can sort of see what scores well, how to approach questions, yada yada...

I don't have any essays marked by actual teachers, but I can share my lang-8 entries.
http://lang-8.com/204030/journals

I THINK they're of a decent standard (A/A+?), and they're corrected by natives. I wrote them on a genkooyooshi first, so they're about 400-500ji (except one of the entries).

PS. Thanks for your website and referral to lang-8 Khoa! They're really helped me this year (although I found lang-8 a little too late >_>)
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Post by: jto1292 on November 14, 2010, 07:25:15 pm
Thank you for that! I think I'm so over this exam :| Need to pull myself together for tomorrow!
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Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on November 14, 2010, 08:29:34 pm
Shutup, Ryan xD Also, Can anyone post up any practise essays they've done? Just so that I can sort of see what scores well, how to approach questions, yada yada...

I don't have any essays marked by actual teachers, but I can share my lang-8 entries.
http://lang-8.com/204030/journals

I THINK they're of a decent standard (A/A+?), and they're corrected by natives. I wrote them on a genkooyooshi first, so they're about 400-500ji (except one of the entries).

PS. Thanks for your website and referral to lang-8 Khoa! They're really helped me this year (although I found lang-8 a little too late >_>)

yay :D

The person above you referred me to Lang-8 though (damattore)

I would post my essays up here if they weren't so terrible (perfect topic on exam day ftw?)
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Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on November 14, 2010, 08:37:13 pm
Changed my mind I'll upload some

Keep in mind many are incomplete, many do not fit within the ji limits, and many just suck :D

I can't remember if they've been corrected or not

Title: Re: Exam is amongst us!
Post by: jto1292 on November 14, 2010, 08:38:05 pm
Thanks Khoa!! :D
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Post by: ryanrulz on November 14, 2010, 08:45:14 pm
anyone know when to use 'kitto', 'zettai', 'zehi' in their appropriate contexts...?
:/
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Post by: ryanrulz on November 14, 2010, 08:51:27 pm
---and kanarazu
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Post by: menashiiii on November 14, 2010, 08:57:53 pm
dont know

i've given up trying to aim for a score better than 300..

settling for B+ or A, but preferably A.. so 220
approx 40 on the exam for me
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Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on November 14, 2010, 08:58:17 pm
anyone know when to use 'kitto', 'zettai', 'zehi' in their appropriate contexts...?
:/

This thing gives you a million examples~

i.e for kitto

http://www.jisho.org/sentences?jap=%E3%81%8D%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A8&eng=
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Post by: jto1292 on November 14, 2010, 08:59:33 pm
I <3 Jisho.org Examples! Been using them all year!
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Post by: jto1292 on November 14, 2010, 09:01:21 pm
*Breaks down and cries in tomorrow's exam*
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Post by: menashiiii on November 14, 2010, 09:06:50 pm
*Breaks down and cries in tomorrow's exam*
i feel for you brother!
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Post by: menashiiii on November 14, 2010, 09:07:08 pm
because ill be doing the same
Title: Re: Exam is amongst us!
Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on November 14, 2010, 09:07:55 pm
*Breaks down and cries in tomorrow's exam*

IT'LL BE OK.

if not then well, Jap scales eh :D

Title: Re: Exam is amongst us!
Post by: jto1292 on November 14, 2010, 09:12:12 pm
IS there any point doing anything now? Maybe it's time for CardCaptor Sakura again! YAY :D
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Post by: menashiiii on November 14, 2010, 09:14:28 pm
*Breaks down and cries in tomorrow's exam*

IT'LL BE OK.

if not then well, Jap scales eh :D



but what if i do reallly bad on this exam!?!

like very bad!?
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Post by: sonnypls on November 15, 2010, 03:45:24 pm
Shutup, Ryan xD Also, Can anyone post up any practise essays they've done? Just so that I can sort of see what scores well, how to approach questions, yada yada...

I don't have any essays marked by actual teachers, but I can share my lang-8 entries.
http://lang-8.com/204030/journals

I THINK they're of a decent standard (A/A+?), and they're corrected by natives. I wrote them on a genkooyooshi first, so they're about 400-500ji (except one of the entries).

PS. Thanks for your website and referral to lang-8 Khoa! They're really helped me this year (although I found lang-8 a little too late >_>)

I hate how Khoa gets credit when I told him about that website. DU MA
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Post by: jto1292 on November 15, 2010, 05:02:47 pm
Hahahaha I can't help but laugh and be annoyed for you, Damattore.. It's only because he posted it on his website and thus it automatically looks like he found it, which we now realise is not true :/
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Post by: sonnypls on November 15, 2010, 10:14:17 pm
I should be a moderator~
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Post by: rainbowfish on November 15, 2010, 11:59:13 pm
Lolwut, I found lang-8 while lurking around vcenotes forums. It just so happens that I found a post of Khoa mentioning lang-8 first, that's all. But yes, thanks for spreading the word around native territory, damattore!
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Post by: sonnypls on November 23, 2010, 02:39:36 am
Hey guise, ready for the exam?
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Post by: jto1292 on November 23, 2010, 06:25:28 pm
LAWL the exam was last week Monday. It's dead and gone. Dead and gone.
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Post by: Fyrefly on November 23, 2010, 09:08:46 pm

OSHI-