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VCE Stuff => VCE Science => VCE Mathematics/Science/Technology => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Chemistry => Topic started by: pi on November 19, 2010, 05:53:02 pm
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Is anyone else annoyed that there is a new edition of the 4th edition of Heinemann chem out and it is nearly exactly the same as old 4th edition! Called 'the enhanced version', the only differences we could find were colour changes of some headings in chapter reviews and some new irrelevant pics. + our school 'highly recommends' (means 'get it or else...') its purchase, wtf? Is this taking profits too far?
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Is anyone else annoyed that there is a new edition of the 4th edition of Heinemann chem out and it is nearly exactly the same as old 4th edition! Called 'the enhanced version', the only differences we could find were colour changes of some headings in chapter reviews and some new irrelevant pics. + our school 'highly recommends' (means 'get it or else...') its purchase, wtf? Is this taking profits too far?
don't buy it. study design hasn't changed, so it is a complete cash grab.
tell your school to ggf...
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WTF? I've been stressing for like 2 weeks because I payed $40 for the old one. My teacher subsequently told me I HAD to buy the new one. On top of that, I went to Academic and General and they said it wasn't out yet. How'd you get it pi?
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WTF? I've been stressing for like 2 weeks because I payed $40 for the old one. My teacher subsequently told me I HAD to buy the new one. On top of that, I went to Academic and General and they said it wasn't out yet. How'd you get it pi?
dw about it. just get the pdf version of the new one, which will be the same as the new one except for the flashy new colours and pics.
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*Sigh*
I've been here worrying that I would miss out on learning things that will be on the exam because of my old textbook.
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*Sigh*
I've been here worrying that I would miss out on learning things that will be on the exam because of my old textbook.
but how? if the study design hasn't changed, then the 'old' text will have everything you need to know haha...
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WTF pi.
Our school does not highly recommend it at all.
In fact the booklist explicitly states that the previous edition is acceptable.
Just had Chemistry transition aswell and Sabo said the new edition affects you in no way.
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I was told that the study design can be amended. Was shitting bricks that I would lose marks on a new topic not in my book.
LOL, yet another pi V iNerd argument.
Have seen your respective Karma donors, was pretty funny.
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Man the kid needs to post properly.
Thats the 2nd post of misleading information.
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iNerd : Keeping the realms of VN free of misleading information. A prince amongst men.
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iNerd : Keeping the realms of VN free of misleading information. A prince amongst men.
I dislike having to monitor his posts...he's screwing over MHS :P
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WTF? I've been stressing for like 2 weeks because I payed $40 for the old one. My teacher subsequently told me I HAD to buy the new one. On top of that, I went to Academic and General and they said it wasn't out yet. How'd you get it pi?
school library
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I am sure not getting it.
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WTF? I've been stressing for like 2 weeks because I payed $40 for the old one. My teacher subsequently told me I HAD to buy the new one. On top of that, I went to Academic and General and they said it wasn't out yet. How'd you get it pi?
Weird? JP Books certainly has it in stock.
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WTF pi.
Our school does not highly recommend it at all.
In fact the booklist explicitly states that the previous edition is acceptable.
Just had Chemistry transition aswell and Sabo said the new edition affects you in no way.
lol, trust Sarbo if you want (record 15 kids who failed the unit 2 chem exam)... Good luck with trying to get over 25 SS in chem then!
But Delaney definitely knows his stuff and highly recommends it
iNerd : Keeping the realms of VN free of misleading information. A prince amongst men.
what a great benefit to the VN society he is :P
iNerd : Keeping the realms of VN free of misleading information. A prince amongst men.
I dislike having to monitor his posts...he's screwing over MHS :P
just telling it how it is, though the eyes of a VCE student (not a year 10 in transition)
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lol'z yr 11's stressing over the smallest things. i wonder whats going to happen in yr 12 ><
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WTF pi.
Our school does not highly recommend it at all.
In fact the booklist explicitly states that the previous edition is acceptable.
Just had Chemistry transition aswell and Sabo said the new edition affects you in no way.
lol, trust Sarbo if you want (record 15 kids who failed the unit 2 chem exam)... Good luck with chem then!
But Delaney definitely knows his stuff and highly recommends it
Everyone disses Sabo. Give the guy a break. He clearly compared both books, showing the identical pages and said exactly what you said. The pictures changed and there are a bit of harder questions.
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WTF pi.
Our school does not highly recommend it at all.
In fact the booklist explicitly states that the previous edition is acceptable.
Just had Chemistry transition aswell and Sabo said the new edition affects you in no way.
lol, trust Sarbo if you want (record 15 kids who failed the unit 2 chem exam)... Good luck with chem then!
But Delaney definitely knows his stuff and highly recommends it
Everyone disses Sabo. Give the guy a break. He clearly compared both books, showing the identical pages and said exactly what you said. The pictures changed and there are a bit of harder questions.
Delaney's educated, and he said we should have it, I disagreed, hence the thread to ask the wider community
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WTF pi.
Our school does not highly recommend it at all.
In fact the booklist explicitly states that the previous edition is acceptable.
Just had Chemistry transition aswell and Sabo said the new edition affects you in no way.
lol, trust Sarbo if you want (record 15 kids who failed the unit 2 chem exam)... Good luck with chem then!
But Delaney definitely knows his stuff and highly recommends it
Everyone disses Sabo. Give the guy a break. He clearly compared both books, showing the identical pages and said exactly what you said. The pictures changed and there are a bit of harder questions.
Delaney's educated, and he said we should have it, I disagreed, hence the thread to ask the wider community
Idc about the debate...you said MHS "highly recommends" it. Bullshit bro :P ..Anyways yeah Delaney's a legend from what I've heard...phD in Chemistry?
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Look fellas, you don't need a book. I had both Delaney and Devlin this year, and we NEVER used the book. You have more than enough to succeed without the text, let alone requiring the new one.
I lost my book at the start of the year somewhere and never touched it, and I don't think I did badly on chem. Stick to the old book, and pi, stop raising alarm unnecessarily :P
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Look fellas, you don't need a book. I had both Delaney and Devlin this year, and we NEVER used the book. You have more than enough to succeed without the text, let alone requiring the new one.
I lost my book at the start of the year somewhere and never touched it, and I don't think I did badly on chem. Stick to the old book, and pi, stop raising alarm unnecessarily :P
Thoughts on Devlin? Heard she's good but barely in class....
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Look fellas, you don't need a book. I had both Delaney and Devlin this year, and we NEVER used the book. You have more than enough to succeed without the text, let alone requiring the new one.
I lost my book at the start of the year somewhere and never touched it, and I don't think I did badly on chem. Stick to the old book, and pi, stop raising alarm unnecessarily :P
Thoughts on Devlin? Heard she's good but barely in class....
for a reason, she had surgery (great compassion -thought you were up-to date with MHS :P). She's a great teacher though, knows her stuff really well, and can also teach it really well as well. Class tests were too easy though...
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Look fellas, you don't need a book. I had both Delaney and Devlin this year, and we NEVER used the book. You have more than enough to succeed without the text, let alone requiring the new one.
I lost my book at the start of the year somewhere and never touched it, and I don't think I did badly on chem. Stick to the old book, and pi, stop raising alarm unnecessarily :P
Thoughts on Devlin? Heard she's good but barely in class....
for a reason, she had surgery (great compassion -thought you were up-to date with MHS :P). She's a great teacher though, knows her stuff really well, and can also teach it really well as well. Class tests were too easy though...
No...not just this year...I'm talking ~5years back and off 'ratemyteachers'. She knows her stuff and all but apparently she's not present in class to teach it due to commitments such as being co-ordinator and all.
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Look fellas, you don't need a book. I had both Delaney and Devlin this year, and we NEVER used the book. You have more than enough to succeed without the text, let alone requiring the new one.
I lost my book at the start of the year somewhere and never touched it, and I don't think I did badly on chem. Stick to the old book, and pi, stop raising alarm unnecessarily :P
Thoughts on Devlin? Heard she's good but barely in class....
for a reason, she had surgery (great compassion -thought you were up-to date with MHS :P). She's a great teacher though, knows her stuff really well, and can also teach it really well as well. Class tests were too easy though...
No...not just this year...I'm talking ~5years back and off 'ratemyteachers'. She knows her stuff and all but apparently she's not present in class to teach it due to commitments such as being co-ordinator and all.
less co-ordinator, more that she is a hockey pro
+ongoing surgery (dont want to give details here)
even with all of that, she was here 80% of the time and half my class got A+ on the most recent exam
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Err, I didn't really listen to my teachers this year, aside from Dr. G and my English teacher. (Oh and Delaney when he was teaching)
Prefer to sit there and do it myself sometimes.
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For fucks sake, you two just argue all day fucking long. Start up a new forum called www.rohitpiVERSUSiNerdultimatebattleextravaganza.com and keep talking there. I'm sick of reading threads relevant to something I'm concerned about, only for the thread to be totally derailed due to your petty bickering.
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For fucks sake, you two just argue all day fucking long. Start up a new forum called www.rohitpiVERSUSiNerdultimatebattleextravaganza.com and keep talking there. I'm sick of reading threads relevant to something I'm concerned about, only for the thread to be totally derailed due to your petty bickering.
The link is broken :( ...lol relax bro, its a friendly clash of academic minds ::)
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Is anyone else annoyed that there is a new edition of the 4th edition of Heinemann chem out and it is nearly exactly the same as old 4th edition! Called 'the enhanced version', the only differences we could find were colour changes of some headings in chapter reviews and some new irrelevant pics. + our school 'highly recommends' (means 'get it or else...') its purchase, wtf? Is this taking profits too far?
YES WHAT THE HELL?
I have to buy the 1/2 book.. its "enhanced" but I'm not sure to buy it or not..
Is it worth buying the 1/2 non-enhanced edition 2nd hand for 25 bucks?
Thanks.
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For fucks sake, you two just argue all day fucking long. Start up a new forum called www.rohitpiVERSUSiNerdultimatebattleextravaganza.com and keep talking there. I'm sick of reading threads relevant to something I'm concerned about, only for the thread to be totally derailed due to your petty bickering.
The link is broken :( ...lol relax bro, its a friendly clash of academic minds ::)
iNerd:
This is not a clash of academic minds. If Einstein argued with Newton about which colour socks were superior, not only would this be a trivial argument belittling them both. It would be an argument that wastes intelligence.
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Is anyone else annoyed that there is a new edition of the 4th edition of Heinemann chem out and it is nearly exactly the same as old 4th edition! Called 'the enhanced version', the only differences we could find were colour changes of some headings in chapter reviews and some new irrelevant pics. + our school 'highly recommends' (means 'get it or else...') its purchase, wtf? Is this taking profits too far?
YES WHAT THE HELL?
I have to buy the 1/2 book.. its "enhanced" but I'm not sure to buy it or not..
Is it worth buying the 1/2 non-enhanced edition 2nd hand for 25 bucks?
Thanks.
Yes it would be fine. Just ensure you get the Enhanced CD off a friend and copy it. It has extra resources.
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For fucks sake, you two just argue all day fucking long. Start up a new forum called www.rohitpiVERSUSiNerdultimatebattleextravaganza.com and keep talking there. I'm sick of reading threads relevant to something I'm concerned about, only for the thread to be totally derailed due to your petty bickering.
The link is broken :( ...lol relax bro, its a friendly clash of academic minds ::)
iNerd:
This is not a clash of academic minds. If Einstein argued with Newton about which colour socks were superior, not only would this be a trivial argument belittling them both. It would be an argument that wastes intelligence.
I was being sarcastic hence the emoticon I inserted. Anyways yeah...I understand :P
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For fucks sake, you two just argue all day fucking long. Start up a new forum called http://www.piVERSUSiNerdultimatebattleextravaganza.com and keep talking there. I'm sick of reading threads relevant to something I'm concerned about, only for the thread to be totally derailed due to your petty bickering.
The link is broken :( ...lol relax bro, its a friendly clash of academic minds ::)
iNerd:
This is not a clash of academic minds. If Einstein argued with Newton about which colour socks were superior, not only would this be a trivial argument belittling them both. It would be an argument that wastes intelligence.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Is anyone else annoyed that there is a new edition of the 4th edition of Heinemann chem out and it is nearly exactly the same as old 4th edition! Called 'the enhanced version', the only differences we could find were colour changes of some headings in chapter reviews and some new irrelevant pics. + our school 'highly recommends' (means 'get it or else...') its purchase, wtf? Is this taking profits too far?
YES WHAT THE HELL?
I have to buy the 1/2 book.. its "enhanced" but I'm not sure to buy it or not..
Is it worth buying the 1/2 non-enhanced edition 2nd hand for 25 bucks?
Thanks.
Just a little bump
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i hate it wen they change the book editions or even the book itself. theyre changing NoB to Heinneman Biology next yr. Now all our science books are gonna be Heinemman D:
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For fucks sake, you two just argue all day fucking long. Start up a new forum called http://www.piVERSUSiNerdultimatebattleextravaganza.com and keep talking there. I'm sick of reading threads relevant to something I'm concerned about, only for the thread to be totally derailed due to your petty bickering.
The link is broken :( ...lol relax bro, its a friendly clash of academic minds ::)
iNerd:
This is not a clash of academic minds. If Einstein argued with Newton about which colour socks were superior, not only would this be a trivial argument belittling them both. It would be an argument that wastes intelligence.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Is anyone else annoyed that there is a new edition of the 4th edition of Heinemann chem out and it is nearly exactly the same as old 4th edition! Called 'the enhanced version', the only differences we could find were colour changes of some headings in chapter reviews and some new irrelevant pics. + our school 'highly recommends' (means 'get it or else...') its purchase, wtf? Is this taking profits too far?
YES WHAT THE HELL?
I have to buy the 1/2 book.. its "enhanced" but I'm not sure to buy it or not..
Is it worth buying the 1/2 non-enhanced edition 2nd hand for 25 bucks?
Thanks.
Just a little bump
Um y bump? I answered your question...first post 3rd page.
Yes it would be fine. Just ensure you get the Enhanced CD off a friend and copy it. It has extra resources.
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i hate it wen they change the book editions or even the book itself. theyre changing NoB to Heinneman Biology next yr. Now all our science books are gonna be Heinemman D:
well i have news for you, NOB > Heinemann...
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Haha, sorry.. didn't see it. Everyone is posting like a madman.
Thanks :)
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i hate it wen they change the book editions or even the book itself. theyre changing NoB to Heinneman Biology next yr. Now all our science books are gonna be Heinemman D:
well i have news for you, NOB > Heinemann...
:'(
GRRRRR
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does anyone have pdf version of NoB 3/4
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does anyone have pdf version of NoB 3/4
Whole thing is in here :D
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,8366.0.html
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Thanks everyone (most people anyway ;) ). Conclusion: waste of money and profit driven, buy old one (cheaper) and copy contents from new CD (for free through borrowing).
Thanks again (especially to iNerd for his most insightful, brilliant and life-changing advice ;)).
*coughs*
For fucks sake, you two just argue all day fucking long. Start up a new forum called www.rohitpiVERSUSiNerdultimatebattleextravaganza.com and keep talking there. I'm sick of reading threads relevant to something I'm concerned about, only for the thread to be totally derailed due to your petty bickering.
that was funny, I apologise on my part
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that was funny, I apologise on my part
I actually thought it was a complete overreaction
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I have been told by my chem faculty that the new textbook is a mistake by heinemann and not buy it. They thought there was a new study design or something so decided to release a new textbook etc...
Basically, I wouldn't buy the new textbook just yet, in my teacher's words, "If you have purchased the new textbook, return it, it's a complete waste of money, get the old one off one of the year 12's."
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I have been told by my chem faculty that the new textbook is a mistake by heinemann and not buy it. They thought there was a new study design or something so decided to release a new textbook etc...
Basically, I wouldn't buy the new textbook just yet, in my teacher's words, "If you have purchased the new textbook, return it, it's a complete waste of money, get the old one off one of the year 12's."
A mistake, lol!
I'm not buying it... Especially after that news.
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Heinemann physics is godly! <3
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Heinemann physics is godly! <3
very much so, I ditched jacaranda for Unit 2 revision
that reminds me of this, said by my transition physics teacher on Friday:
*points to Heinemann Physics 2*
"Imagine this is an atom..."
was laughing fro a solid minute after that! ;D ;D
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I have been told by my chem faculty that the new textbook is a mistake by heinemann and not buy it. They thought there was a new study design or something so decided to release a new textbook etc...
Basically, I wouldn't buy the new textbook just yet, in my teacher's words, "If you have purchased the new textbook, return it, it's a complete waste of money, get the old one off one of the year 12's."
A mistake, lol!
I'm not buying it... Especially after that news.
A mistake because they thought there was a new study design coming out...
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Just to let you know guys, examiners do not flick through the Heinemann book to design questions. Don't take your textbook so seriously.
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If you check the Macrob booklist, under, 'Items cancelled' you can see the new edition of the Heinemann Chem textbook-enhanced etc etc.
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haha also from MHS.
Goodey said the enhanced version was virtually the same, with the addition of harder questions, slightly different themes, more pictures.. and if you may, 'Chem Cafe'
LOL.
and im pretty sure bio is still NOB next year? Well, for 3/4 anyway.
Stiglecs recommends we get "Biology" by Campbell and Reece (Uni book.. ?) anyway, which is an easy find via google!
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Stiglecs recommends we get "Biology" by Campbell and Reece (Uni book.. ?) anyway, which is an easy find via google!
Its great for SACS and the "google-it" approach is the same way I went: ftw!
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our school is having heinnamen for bio, chem and physics
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our school is having heinnamen for bio, chem and physics
Definitely get Nature of Biology (Jacaranda I think...) fro Bio, it is the best by a long, long way! But you should be fine with the other two.
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I have the enhanced book, and it is pretty much the same... Although, the disc comes with worked solutions but that's not really needed since they're all available on VN already. :/
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"Biology" by Campbell and Reece (Uni book.. ?) anyway, which is an easy find via google!
can you link me please :)
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I won't post it here (illegal material).
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Has anybody got the heinemann chem text book for unit 3+4 pdf?
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our school is having heinnamen for bio, chem and physics
Definitely get Nature of Biology (Jacaranda I think...) fro Bio, it is the best by a long, long way! But you should be fine with the other two.
Yeah, NOB is THE BEST
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