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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: Rosie on May 21, 2008, 04:46:27 pm
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For writing task 1, where a piece of writing has to be developed using the information on that page without presenting an argument.
How exactly do you go about doing this. Selecting the main information, can you do it in an essay format.
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It.Doesn't.Matter.The.GAT.Is.Worthless.
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it is used for moderation in all humanites subjects - including english, small lotes... etc and if you fall sick before your exams then a derived score would be good vs 0 = fail
So it isn't worthless as such...
But not really worth frantic study or practice - at most look at the format
As for that section - you can write it as an informative essay - ie group the information into categories - eg social,physical, environmental etc and formulate your essay around the
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It.Doesn't.Matter.The.GAT.Is.Worthless.
sure thing. if you dont want to have a backup for calculations if you needed a derived exam score, your choice.
oh, and, practically all universities now take into account of your GAT [if you are just under your preference], so by all means, dont take it seriously, because it will be absolutely worthless.
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It.Doesn't.Matter.The.GAT.Is.Worthless.
sure thing. if you dont want to have a backup for calculations if you needed a derived exam score, your choice.
oh, and, practically all universities now take into account of your GAT [if you are just under your preference], so by all means, dont take it seriously, because it will be absolutely worthless.
yeah don't. The GAT consideration is only for the middle-band anyway and I'm not giving VTAC permission to look at my GAT results (IT FEELS SO GOOD, I FEEL LIBERATED :D ). Some people get like <20 for maths but get 40+ for math subjects. + the probability of you miraculously getting sick is like 0.0000000000000000000001.
So yeah don't.
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It.Doesn't.Matter.The.GAT.Is.Worthless.
sure thing. if you dont want to have a backup for calculations if you needed a derived exam score, your choice.
oh, and, practically all universities now take into account of your GAT [if you are just under your preference], so by all means, dont take it seriously, because it will be absolutely worthless.
yeah don't. The GAT consideration is only for the middle-band anyway and I'm not giving VTAC permission to look at my GAT results (IT FEELS SO GOOD, I FEEL LIBERATED :D ). Some people get like <20 for maths but get 40+ for math subjects. + the probability of you miraculously getting sick is like 0.0000000000000000000001.
So yeah don't.
no prav, I wasnt being sarcastic... lol?
c'mon guys, some backup > no backup. at least you should take it seriously, even if you are not going to do any preparations for it.
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Okay....... you have come to a conlcusion that the doing your best in the GAT would be a better option than not taking it seriously. So can anyone answer the original question? I would like to know the answer as well.....
"For writing task 1, where a piece of writing has to be developed using the information on that page without presenting an argument.
How exactly do you go about doing this. Selecting the main information, can you do it in an essay format. "
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I just wrote an essay style response last year. Sort of read thru the information and grouped information together according to what I thought would be a logical flow of ideas.
I remember enwiabe last year saying something about writing a creative piece which could also be another option.
You are given graphs and stuff so just interpret the information and make it flow logically and coherently if you intend on an essay style format. I got 43 for Written so my style could possibly be a decent one to consider. Play to your strengths though.
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Yeah, I did a similar style response to Costargh and ended up with 45.
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I did an "inspirational" piece, and landed myself a 32 :P
I also fluked the arts/humanities section and got 49 :P [woot? i guess?]
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I can't remember what I got for written communication last year, maybe 47? Anyway, I wrote it in a journalistic-style informative article.
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I just wrote LOL. I remember the 2007 one was about this new thing in the south pole, so I just wrote "there is going to be this thing, and this thing has all these cool features."
I got a 42 :P I concede that I didn't try very hard. I might try Eriny's journalistic informative style thing this year!
I got 50 in the humanties bit LOL. Fluked, of course. And I got 50 in the math when I did the GAT in year 10 (got 45 when I did it in year 11). So maybe this year I'll get 50 in the english :P :P
Anyway, I think the GAT is quite fun :D I like doing stuff like that, I don't think it's a waste of time. I can't stand people who boast about how they completed it in like 30 minutes or whatever - the GAT should be enjoyed slowly so you can savour every question :P
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I can't remember what I got for written communication last year, maybe 47? Anyway, I wrote it in a journalistic-style informative article.
I did a similar thing on mine. I'd a lot better at that than creative writing, and I think informative writing suited the task better.
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Anyway, I think the GAT is quite fun :D I like doing stuff like that, I don't think it's a waste of time. I can't stand people who boast about how they completed it in like 30 minutes or whatever - the GAT should be enjoyed slowly so you can savour every question :P
I also enjoyed the GAT in the intellectually-fun kind of way, although I think I'd prefer those 6 hours back.
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What kind of raw scores in each Section (Maths/Science and Humanities) typically correspond to what standardised score?
Also, I heard that Monash Uni are considering the GAT this year. Is this true, and if it is, how are they going to use it?
Thanks.
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What kind of raw scores in each Section (Maths/Science and Humanities) typically correspond to what standardised score?
Also, I heard that Monash Uni are considering the GAT this year. Is this true, and if it is, how are they going to use it?
Thanks.
To answer your 2nd question, last year Monash trialled using the GAT as part of the things taken into consideration for the middle band. It was an opt in thing, and it was impossible to disadvantage you if you chose it. What they'll do this year I don't know; you'll probably find out towards the end of the year.
For first question, I have gotten the following
English - 27/40 -> 37
Humanities - 31/35 -> 44 and 35/35 -> 50
Maths/science - 35/35 -> 50 and 34/35 -> 48
(I don't remember my 2nd english one)
But you obviously want more data then that :P
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Is there anything on the VCAA website that has sample responses to previous GAT writing tasks?
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Is there anything on the VCAA website that has sample responses to previous GAT writing tasks?
not to my knowledge, but your teachers should have them.
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Do you guys have any tips for writing a good 'journalistic style informative article.' I like the idea but I'm not sure about how to go about it :)
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Hi, considering I'm only doing two Year 12 subjects this year (Psych + Bio), should I worry too much about the essay part of the GAT or should I go for the science type questions first then come back to the essay? Or should I aim to do well in all areas of the GAT?
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If your subject has two exams (aka science subjects), you don't need to worry about the science/math section of the GAT. The GAT is important for subjects that only have the end of year exam (english, humanties etc..)
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If your subject has two exams (aka science subjects), you don't need to worry about the science/math section of the GAT. The GAT is important for subjects that only have the end of year exam (english, humanties etc..)
what do you mean? all of the math subjects have two exams as well...
does this make the entire science/math section of the GAT redundant?
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Hi, considering I'm only doing two Year 12 subjects this year (Psych + Bio), should I worry too much about the essay part of the GAT or should I go for the science type questions first then come back to the essay? Or should I aim to do well in all areas of the GAT?
thelovecatsx: the GAT is important for all subjects :)
I would do my best in all the areas of the GAT. You never know when it might come in handy - e.g. next year you might be in hospital or something on the day of the GAT so you might have to rely on this one instead (not sure if that's how it works but can't think of any other solution to it) (also I know that's damn unlikely but twas just an example :P)
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If your subject has two exams (aka science subjects), you don't need to worry about the science/math section of the GAT. The GAT is important for subjects that only have the end of year exam (english, humanties etc..)
I'm a bit worried about where you received this information from thelovecatsx
All sections of the GAT can be used to moderate your SAC marks (only upwards of course - it won't negatively impact on them) and it is applied to ALL subjects.
It's also taken into consideration should you need a derived exam mark (and that's happened to a student at my school who didn't take the GAT seriously, had to leave another exam early, applied for a derived score but because her GAT marks were poor they took that as evidence that they mark she got on the exam wasn't affected by her needing to leave early, so no derived score given)
The GAT that KeyMan sits this Friday will be used to moderate his SAC marks for Biol and Psych so he should take it seriously and try his best.
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Also, I heard that Monash Uni are considering the GAT this year. Is this true, and if it is, how are they going to use it?
From what i've heard many Universities are talking of using the GAT results to help with middle band entry
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All sections of the GAT can be used to moderate your SAC marks (only upwards of course - it won't negatively impact on them) and it is applied to ALL subjects.
It's also taken into consideration should you need a derived exam mark (and that's happened to a student at my school who didn't take the GAT seriously, had to leave another exam early, applied for a derived score but because her GAT marks were poor they took that as evidence that they mark she got on the exam wasn't affected by her needing to leave early, so no derived score given)
Ah alright. Someone told me that only those parts were important. Ignore what I said previously then. :buck2: