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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: mikee65 on November 24, 2010, 08:27:51 pm

Title: PG med at UoM
Post by: mikee65 on November 24, 2010, 08:27:51 pm
Just wondering how many places are offered (CSP), and the number of applicants.
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: vexx on November 24, 2010, 08:31:25 pm
270 CSP places, and the number of applicants is unknown since next year is the first year people have applied for entry too.. There would be a couple of thousand at least though, they will put up more information once they have it in the future.
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: Edmund on November 24, 2010, 08:37:00 pm
I think there were 500-600 applicants, but of course, this information isn't accurate
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: Russ on November 24, 2010, 08:42:47 pm
There are 125% of positions offered as interviews, but the amount of applications is really a lottery. Information on entry etc. will be published in January 2011 according the MDHS centre

Of the 270 CSP places, 67 must be BMP and another 8 must be MRBS
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: vexx on November 24, 2010, 08:45:55 pm
I think there were 500-600 applicants, but of course, this information isn't accurate

Wow really only that many! I thought only that many were offered an interview??
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: stonecold on November 24, 2010, 08:47:03 pm
^Apparently it is going to get harder to get in as the number of applicants is expected to increase over the coming years.
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: mikee65 on November 24, 2010, 08:53:42 pm
^Apparently it is going to get harder to get in as the number of applicants is expected to increase over the coming years.
oh god
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: Russ on November 24, 2010, 08:56:08 pm
There would have been 400 odd interview candidates based on their 125% rule.

And yeah, due to a few factors (small graduating biomedicine cohort + introduction of prerequisites) the requirements were very low
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: mikee65 on November 24, 2010, 08:57:06 pm
pardon my ignorance but what exactly is the 125% rule?
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: Russ on November 24, 2010, 09:00:07 pm
Could be 120% I can't remember, but they have X amount of positions in medicine, so they hold 1.25X interviews.
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: mikee65 on November 24, 2010, 09:03:38 pm
Could be 120% I can't remember, but they have X amount of positions in medicine, so they hold 1.25X interviews.
ah, thanks!
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: shinny on November 25, 2010, 12:09:01 am
^Apparently it is going to get harder to get in as the number of applicants is expected to increase over the coming years.

That'd make sense. The ones who didn't get in the previous year are likely to reapply again. Those who then consequently get in the subsequent year thin the spots available for that year, leading to an increase in the number of applicants that year who don't get in once more, which then causes a continual domino effect I guess.
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: stonecold on November 25, 2010, 12:11:26 am
^Apparently it is going to get harder to get in as the number of applicants is expected to increase over the coming years.

That'd make sense. The ones who didn't get in the previous year are likely to reapply again. Those who then consequently get in the subsequent year thin the spots available for that year, leading to an increase in the number of applicants that year who don't get in once more, which then causes a continual domino effect I guess.

Yeah.  Will probably peak for 2014 entry when all us 2010 VCE graduates need to get in!  Will not be easy...
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: dptjandra on November 29, 2010, 02:43:47 am
lots of info here...this has eaten up so much of my time!

http://www.medicine.unimelb.edu.au/future/md/
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: Russ on November 29, 2010, 08:03:43 am
Alternatively, the 2011 MD subjects went up on handbook last month if you want to look at them.
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: mikee65 on November 30, 2010, 09:59:13 pm
Alternatively, the 2011 MD subjects went up on handbook last month if you want to look at them.
got a link?
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: vexx on November 30, 2010, 10:06:46 pm
Alternatively, the 2011 MD subjects went up on handbook last month if you want to look at them.
got a link?

https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/MC-DMED
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: Russ on December 01, 2010, 08:25:47 am
Yeah that link. There's really not much there but it's interesting to look at the text list and work out how much debt I'll need to go into :S
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: vexx on December 11, 2010, 01:26:11 pm
Yeah that link. There's really not much there but it's interesting to look at the text list and work out how much debt I'll need to go into :S

only just saw this..

but surely you can just use libraries/download ebooks of these off internet!
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: Russ on December 11, 2010, 04:04:39 pm
I hate using ebooks, they're hard to read and study from. Plus I disapprove of downloading textbooks.

And the textbooks are all on overnight loan (24 hours) so you'll be fighting to get them from the Brownless
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: vexx on December 11, 2010, 04:14:13 pm
I hate using ebooks, they're hard to read and study from. Plus I disapprove of downloading textbooks.

And the textbooks are all on overnight loan (24 hours) so you'll be fighting to get them from the Brownless

ah okay i see that's annoying then.
well i guess you will have to buy then :(
i probably will end up buying too, since i'd prefer hardcopy and not having to rely on library.. but thats many years away!
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: Russ on December 11, 2010, 04:16:46 pm
Don't worry, you'll get set plenty of textbooks next year
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: luken93 on December 11, 2010, 08:02:10 pm
lots of info here...this has eaten up so much of my time!

http://www.medicine.unimelb.edu.au/future/md/
You aren't in it with your scores? Wah?

Quote from: http://www.medicine.unimelb.edu.au/future/md/selection.html
The Selection Committee will shortlist applicants for interview on the basis of their performance in previous studies (GPA) and their results in the GAMSAT or MCAT. The shortlist will be 125% of the final number of students to be selected.

    * The Grade Point Average (GPA) will be measured by considering the last 3 years of the applicant’s undergraduate coursework studies (including Honours).
    * Weightings will be applied according to the approved Melbourne Adjusted Grade Point Average (MAGPA) calculations in force in any given year, or in the absence of any defined MAGPA, by weighting the first of the final three years by 1, the second year by 2 and the final year by 3.
It is indeed the 125% rule
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: Russ on December 11, 2010, 08:07:20 pm
^^
Guaranteed pathway still requires a certain WAM and a pass in the interview

Oh and on the topic of ebooks, if you buy the texts you usually get a studentconsult.com code to redeem there with extra content/digital copy etc (it's their way of cutting down the second hand textbook market)
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: luken93 on December 11, 2010, 08:09:16 pm
^^
Guaranteed pathway still requires a certain WAM and a pass in the interview

Oh and on the topic of ebooks, if you buy the texts you usually get a studentconsult.com code to redeem there with extra content/digital copy etc (it's their way of cutting down the second hand textbook market)
Its all at that link, cbf copying it all onto here though haha

Are you in Med Russ?
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: Russ on December 11, 2010, 08:11:13 pm
No, it's postgrad and I'm still finishing my undergrad degree. Applying in July though :)
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: luken93 on December 11, 2010, 08:23:03 pm
No, it's postgrad and I'm still finishing my undergrad degree. Applying in July though :)
So what degree are you doing now? Biomed I'm guessing?
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: TrueLight on December 12, 2010, 12:25:57 am
^ lol ill answer it for him  :P

yes hes doing biomed at melb
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: dptjandra on December 12, 2010, 02:21:10 am
lots of info here...this has eaten up so much of my time!

http://www.medicine.unimelb.edu.au/future/md/
You aren't in it with your scores? Wah?

haha - as Russ said, I need to maintain a 75% GPA and convince them I can speak English well enough to cope in a med degree...hopefully worth all the work!
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: stonecold on December 12, 2010, 02:24:32 am
lots of info here...this has eaten up so much of my time!

http://www.medicine.unimelb.edu.au/future/md/
You aren't in it with your scores? Wah?

haha - as Russ said, I need to maintain a 75% GPA and convince them I can speak English well enough to cope in a med degree...hopefully worth all the work!

Doesn't a 50 in English kinda prove that already?
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: dptjandra on December 12, 2010, 02:29:16 am
dunno - maybe I can read and write but am unable to speak at all?  it'd be pretty interesting.  it's the 75% GPA which I spose is more of a worry
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: Russ on December 12, 2010, 08:37:04 am
Not to put down anyone's achievements, but I know some guys with very high English scores (one 50) who are absolutely atrocious at written and spoken expression
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: luken93 on December 12, 2010, 09:04:26 am
Not to put down anyone's achievements, but I know some guys with very high English scores (one 50) who are absolutely atrocious at written and spoken expression
And I don't mean to knock anyone's scores, congrats on getting them, but how does that enable you to be given a very good score for a language that you cannot speak?
Maybe there should be an oral section for the English exams just like any LOTE VCE subject
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: dptjandra on December 16, 2010, 12:39:54 am
It would be a slightly unwieldy system, I believe.  Firstly because of the large number of students who do VCE English, and secondly because it could potentially be so subjective and potentially farcical, depending on what was asked. That is, who is to judge what is a "suitable" standard of English speaking ability on a graded scale?  What do they ask?  General conversation would almost be adjudging social skills more than anything that can really be learnt.  The concept of a "memorised" speech (which would surely be done by a large number of these "good English students who can't communicate") would probably make the method no more helpful than the current system of having a compulsory SAC which involves making a speech.  While it may make the marking system slightly more uniform with regards to this oral component, I'm not sure I'm entirely convinced it will really help...the real test when it comes to these things is in the real world anyway (as opposed to VCE world :P)
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: luken93 on December 16, 2010, 09:05:19 am
Yeah I guess there is really no way of doing it, I'd know that even though I can speak perfect English and I'm Aussie, I'd still be nervous about an interview...
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: funkyducky on December 16, 2010, 05:47:30 pm
You know how there's guaranteed entrance for Biomed students with ATAR 99.9+? Is it possible to have guaranteed entrance from Science undergrad, if you get 99.9+?
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: Russ on December 16, 2010, 05:48:53 pm
Yes, the guaranteed pathway is for any student who qualifies
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: dptjandra on December 21, 2010, 09:53:45 am
Yeh - it is less ambiguous now...I remember when I was enrolling, it said "Bachelor of Biomedicine" on the "guaranteed entry" thing...which is what changed my mind from doing BSci (though I don't regret going into BBiomed...loving it).  Currently it just says the guaranteed path is from any Melbourne Ugrad degree (so I spose hypothetically you could do arts if you fulfilled all the prereq subjects (not sure what sort of crazy overloading and stuff you'd need to do!!)  I've heard about someone trying to do it via BCom...not sure if that's just rumour though.
Title: Re: PG med at UoM
Post by: Russ on December 21, 2010, 01:33:27 pm
You can do it through arts by doing 1 summer subject (chem 102 probably)