ATAR Notes: Forum
Uni Stuff => Faculties => Engineering => Topic started by: taiga on December 01, 2010, 08:45:11 pm
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I'm not sure if these type of threads are allowed.
But I just want to see if anyone is doing it :)
Still not sure which one I want to major in though :X
Also what's the deal with the engineering scholarship? I know that the ATAR requirement is a minimum 98, but what would the cut-off be in reality (approximately)?
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It was like 99.4 last year apparently... Maybe higher.
Your talking about Monash Engineering Excellence right?
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It was like 99.4 last year apparently... Maybe higher.
Your talking about Monash Engineering Excellence right?
Yes, but the Monash Engineering Scholarship (there's a difference :O), requires a minimum atar of 95.00.
They both offer the exact same monetary aid, which is what has me slightly stumped :X
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The Engineering Excellence Award gives you a scholarship and entrance into their leadership program. However apparently anyone who has a scholarship automatically gets into this program.
So yeah, however if you get above 99 you should get some form of scholarship :)
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Do you need to maintain a certain grade to keep the scholarship jimmy?
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Most scholarships require you to keep either a minimum of 60, 70 or 75 percent.
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Oww that's no fun!
Asif you need 99.4+ to be a "leader" :(
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Most scholarships require you to keep either a minimum of 60, 70 or 75 percent.
dw if u fall under the average score to maintain.. they just give u a warning and be like if u dont improve the next time they might take the scholarship off u.. so u will be put on probation.
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Most scholarships require you to keep either a minimum of 60, 70 or 75 percent.
dw if u fall under the average score to maintain.. they just give u a warning and be like if u dont improve the next time they might take the scholarship off u.. so u will be put on probation.
Yeah the way it works is if you get under the average, you get put on probation for a semester and still get the money. If in that probation semester you still get under the average, your scholarship is then put on suspension meaning you won't get money. In that suspension semester, if you still get under the average, then you lose your scholarship completely. It's basically a 3 warning system. Probation, suspension, and lose
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Most scholarships require you to keep either a minimum of 60, 70 or 75 percent.
dw if u fall under the average score to maintain.. they just give u a warning and be like if u dont improve the next time they might take the scholarship off u.. so u will be put on probation.
Yeah the way it works is if you get under the average, you get put on probation for a semester and still get the money. If in that probation semester you still get under the average, your scholarship is then put on suspension meaning you won't get money. In that suspension semester, if you still get under the average, then you lose your scholarship completely. It's basically a 3 warning system. Probation, suspension, and lose
yep thats how it works and it is pretty fair as well
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First step is getting one! if you're good enough to get one, it'd be pretty hard to lose it?
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its pretty easy to lose it, just fail. how hard can that be? HAHAHFirst step is getting one! if you're good enough to get one, it'd be pretty hard to lose it?
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Well I think I'll already get a minor scholarship for "elite sport" or something rather (only 2 applicants in that "sport", and I'm his senior), does that mean I will not be able to take up any other scholarships?
99.95, what are you thinking of taking?
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What you mean taking? as in specialisation? scholarship?
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What you mean taking? as in specialisation? scholarship?
Specialization / course
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What you mean taking? as in specialisation? scholarship?
Specialization / course
Refer to sig :)
Biomed/eng, chem eng spec
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You decided yet?
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I'm thinking BMatEng/BComm
Could go for ChemEng too though, not sure
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Ahh what's attracting you to Materials? I only read the unit descriptions briefly. And what are you planning to major in with Comm?
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Ahh what's attracting you to Materials? I only read the unit descriptions briefly. And what are you planning to major in with Comm?
Materials has alot of chemistry in application from what I understand, and they are required in heaps of different industries
commerce I'm thinking majoring in Economics or Management.
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think it's possible to get in with a 90.4? clearly in is 92 but fringe is like 90.2..... don't have any extra points for spec/chem either.
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You do have a chance, but I wouldn't rely on getting in. Leave it as your first preference, if it is truly the course you want to do. But devise a back-up plan in case things don't go your way..
I'm going to put Aerospace Engineering/ Science as my first pref. ;D
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think it's possible to get in with a 90.4? clearly in is 92 but fringe is like 90.2..... don't have any extra points for spec/chem either.
no harm in trying :)
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yeh true, I was orignally planning on going RMIT anyway to be honest so I don't mind if I don't make it.
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whoooop BE/BSc @ monash :):)
they didn't give me an engineering scholarship and my top 6 preferences are pretty much engineering + another course :(
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Chances to get in wit 90.7?
Its been my 1st pref all year lol followed by RMIT.
Hoping to major in Civil.
So as chap was suggesting, do i get a better chance in middle band if i've done Chemistry? :|
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Chances to get in wit 90.7?
Its been my 1st pref all year lol followed by RMIT.
Hoping to major in Civil.
So as chap was suggesting, do i get a better chance in middle band if i've done Chemistry? :|
I think if you have done well in chem/methods (above 35, preferably above 40), and also above 38 ish in the GAT for science, you should get in
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A friend of mine last year had 90.1 with a 35 in spesh and he didn't get in. although he never did chemistry so you guys probably have a better chance then him
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Chances to get in wit 90.7?
Its been my 1st pref all year lol followed by RMIT.
Hoping to major in Civil.
So as chap was suggesting, do i get a better chance in middle band if i've done Chemistry? :|
I think if you have done well in chem/methods (above 35, preferably above 40), and also above 38 ish in the GAT for science, you should get in
Meth 34 :(, Chem 35 and GAT 38 from memory. (in '09 though i got 44 for Science..Does that change anything.) Ahh well no point worrying about it. Its up to Monash. *Prays*
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Don't you need to have done Methods and two of Chem, Physics or Spesh in order to get extra points in the middle band?
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Well i've done Physics and Chem and got 35+ in each. So does that classify me. D:
Oh well i dont really mind going to RMIT. It's just going to monash is like 5-10 minutes for me. haha lazy.
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Well i've done Physics and Chem and got 35+ in each. So does that classify me. D:
Oh well i dont really mind going to RMIT. It's just going to monash is like 5-10 minutes for me. haha lazy.
Just got to hope for the best :)
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Hey jayna does that mean you will have to wait for middlw band offers to see if you got into monash as you dont have the clearly in? Or are those bonus points added for first round?
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Well i've done Physics and Chem and got 35+ in each. So does that classify me. D:
Oh well i dont really mind going to RMIT. It's just going to monash is like 5-10 minutes for me. haha lazy.
Just got to hope for the best :)
I got in :)
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Well i've done Physics and Chem and got 35+ in each. So does that classify me. D:
Oh well i dont really mind going to RMIT. It's just going to monash is like 5-10 minutes for me. haha lazy.
Just got to hope for the best :)
I got in :)
Told ya!
see you there :P
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guys im seriously considering putting a irregular offer in and going rmit instead............
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With the unit selection, are there any recommendations for order combos or does it not matter what units we do first or second semester?
guys im seriously considering putting a irregular offer in and going rmit instead............
I was too because of distance...but I think I'll go with Monash.
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Have a look at the pre/co-requisites and decide from that. For my engineering subjects (MAE1041, MAE1042) one has no requisites(1041) while the other(1042) has the first unit(1041) as a co-requisite - so you do the original one(1041) first.
Hope that isn't confusing ;)
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chap- if you have the chance to get to monash eng don't even contemplate rmit! if you feel that in the first couple of months monash isn't what you want you can transfer- easier to go from monash to rmit than the other way around...
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ok thanks Sam,
which do you guys think is better to do if I am planning on doing civil, Electrical systems or Process systems analysis. I am not sure either are relevant, so which do you guys think are more interesting/easy?
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Process systems analysis is really easy. It has 4 hour tutes, but those are optional and simple as well. You finish lecture material by week 7 and spend the next 5 weeks either doing revision or having extra long lunch breaks.
From what I've heard, Electrical systems is really hard. They've had to tone it down the last few years because too many people were failing it.
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ok thanks, is this good for semester 1:
Foundation Maths
Foundation Chemistry
Process systems analysis
Engineering Structures
I could swap structures and systems analysis with materials and/or dynamics. I realise I have to do them all anyway but maybe some are better to do together?
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Process systems is the first year chemical engineering unit which does utilise some basic chemistry. If I were you, I'd put process into second semester and replace it with materials. Materials and structures require less maths so you'll be okay with those.
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ok thanks Sam,
which do you guys think is better to do if I am planning on doing civil, Electrical systems or Process systems analysis. I am not sure either are relevant, so which do you guys think are more interesting/easy?
Electrical systems ftw!
I did it last semester and the labs are really interesting because they are hands on and practical. During the last week, you get to make a thermometer which is quite fun. It's not that hard to score well in - you just gotta understand the concepts well and you should achieve a distinction pretty easily. Most of the questions from the exam are quite similar to the textbook questions but they normally they put a few tricky questions to differentiate the high-end students. I managed to pull a HD last semester and so did most of my mates.
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should I try and make the lectures before the labs/support classes or does it not really matter?
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should I try and make the lectures before the labs/support classes or does it not really matter?
I believe that labs starts on the 2nd week so it'll be fine. Don't quote me on this though
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nah I mean on the timetable, should your lectures be before the labs each week so you know what's going on?
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Usually the material in the labs/tutes are based on the previous weeks lectures. Most subjects follow this pretty well. The only exception is ENG1060, which means you need to read ahead in lectures to be able to do the pracs