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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: ben_ess12 on December 06, 2010, 08:04:44 am
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Hey everyone....
I have read through a few posts/topics and other forums and seen that people mention gettin ahead or completing the course before holidays and so on...
My question is when you go ahead how far? For example over these holidays would you just prepare for AOS1 or write notes for the whole year?
And when you complete a course, is that so in class you just revise it or more so that you have a basic understanding of what you will be learning?
Hope that all made sense
Thanks
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To start off, I think it depends on the subject. For subjects like Methods, Chemistry etc you should try and finish the course before school starts again - do the exercises and make notes. This is so that once you get back to school, you're ahead and it saves you time. Your teachers will go over the course material and this reinforces what you've learnt before (in the holidays) - consolidates your knowledge.
For "ROTE-learned" subjects like Legal Studies, I've just been writing summary notes of each AOS. For English, I'd just read all your texts for next year. I think to answer your question, it's both - to revise what you've learnt over the break and to get a deeper understanding - ask your teacher if you're unsure of anything.
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To start off, I think it depends on the subject. For subjects like Methods, Chemistry etc you should try and finish the course before school starts again - do the exercises and make notes. This is so that once you get back to school, you're ahead and it saves you time. Your teachers will go over the course material and this reinforces what you've learnt before (in the holidays) - consolidates your knowledge.
For "ROTE-learned" subjects like Legal Studies, I've just been writing summary notes of each AOS. For English, I'd just read the all your texts for next year. I think to answer your question, it's both - to revise what you've learnt over the break and to get a deeper understanding - ask your teacher if you're unsure of anything.
+1 My purpose of learning the course during the summer hols is so that what we do it in class is mainly revision and reinforcing what i already know
As EPL said for rote learned subjects you should just write summary notes
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In hindsight, I could have done the whole BM course in a week. But it wouldn't have made any difference on my scores.
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In hindsight, I could have done the whole BM course in a week. But it wouldn't have made any difference on my scores.
what do you mean?
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To start off, I think it depends on the subject. For subjects like Methods, Chemistry etc you should try and finish the course before school starts again - do the exercises and make notes. This is so that once you get back to school, you're ahead and it saves you time. Your teachers will go over the course material and this reinforces what you've learnt before (in the holidays) - consolidates your knowledge.
For "ROTE-learned" subjects like Legal Studies, I've just been writing summary notes of each AOS. For English, I'd just read all your texts for next year. I think to answer your question, it's both - to revise what you've learnt over the break and to get a deeper understanding - ask your teacher if you're unsure of anything.
cheers thanks for that :) i have begun some notes for business but not yet p.e
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Woo! Good thread Ben. When my books come in, imma start making notes. Are you guys typing or handwriting? :)
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Woo! Good thread Ben. When my books come in, imma start making notes. Are you guys typing or handwriting? :)
i will firstly type up notes, as i think it gets all the ideas into my head butthenn i will handwrite. i have found that by handwriting them out as well, i tend to read them aloud before i write it, then write it and then re read it again which helps cement it in.
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Handwrite your notes. Typing can be done after, but you should handwrite them at least once.
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Handwrite your notes. Typing can be done after, but you should handwrite them at least once.
Ditto.
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In hindsight, I could have done the whole BM course in a week. But it wouldn't have made any difference on my scores.
what do you mean?
The business management course is very short and looking back at how I used my holidays, I could have finished the whole course very easily, as a yr 11. But my scores for SACs don't reflect a real need for it, at least for me.
Also, it should be handwrite then type, not the other way.
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In hindsight, I could have done the whole BM course in a week. But it wouldn't have made any difference on my scores.
what do you mean?
The business management course is very short and looking back at how I used my holidays, I could have finished the whole course very easily, as a yr 11. But my scores for SACs don't reflect a real need for it, at least for me.
Also, it should be handwrite then type, not the other way.
ahh okk fair enough, and il take the handwrite type thing on bored
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My plan is to complete AOS1 of each of my subjects, read all my lit+english books (there is a shitload of books) then just push on as far beyond that as I can. For all my subjects I'm just gonna sumarise the textbook in my own words and do the exercises in the textbooks relating to each topic i larn and make sure I understand every topic/concept before I move onto the next one on the list... Quite simple realy.
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My plan is to complete AOS1 of each of my subjects, read all my lit+english books (there is a shitload of books) then just push on as far beyond that as I can. For all my subjects I'm just gonna sumarise the textbook in my own words and do the exercises in the textbooks relating to each topic i larn and make sure I understand every topic/concept before I move onto the next one on the list... Quite simple realy.
sounds like you have a plan :P i would say thats a lot of work and reading to do but if your wanting 99 i guess its something your gonna need to do...
i plan on going through the book for busines and p.e and writing AOS 1 notes at least for both subjects andtrying o answer most chapter questins
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Definitely could cover the Bus Man Course over the summer holidays, then learn the finer details in class etc throughout the year.
In terms of PE ben_ess12, I would probably cover AOS1 in the holidays (NPAG, ecological model or whatever it is etc etc) but leave the next AOS (energy systems) until you do it in class, as it is the most important area of the course. All or most of of Unit 4 relates specifically to energy systems, hence ideally 75% of the exam will be on such concepts and related ones. So I would wait for your teacher to take you through it.
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Definitely could cover the Bus Man Course over the summer holidays, then learn the finer details in class etc throughout the year.
In terms of PE ben_ess12, I would probably cover AOS1 in the holidays (NPAG, ecological model or whatever it is etc etc) but leave the next AOS (energy systems) until you do it in class, as it is the most important area of the course. All or most of of Unit 4 relates specifically to energy systems, hence ideally 75% of the exam will be on such concepts and related ones. So I would wait for your teacher to take you through it.
Thanks for the p.e advice. i didnt really look into AOS 2 too much, doing AOS 1 atm (the holiday homework is based on it) and it seems pretty basic-ish so far...
but i will wait for the teacher to go over energy systems, a few ppl have mentioned energy systems are important so i guess it will be better to take on all of this advice :) thanks for that. Did you do all the chapter questions relating to AOS 1 now and write notes now?
as for business, i have noticed how small it is, my 1/2 book was bigger :/ but i have briefly gone through fist AOS and have a decent understanding i will probably go through the rest and have a brief knowledge of the course
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My plan is to complete AOS1 of each of my subjects, read all my lit+english books (there is a shitload of books) then just push on as far beyond that as I can. For all my subjects I'm just gonna sumarise the textbook in my own words and do the exercises in the textbooks relating to each topic i larn and make sure I understand every topic/concept before I move onto the next one on the list... Quite simple realy.
sounds like you have a plan :P i would say thats a lot of work and reading to do but if your wanting 99 i guess its something your gonna need to do...
i plan on going through the book for busines and p.e and writing AOS 1 notes at least for both subjects andtrying o answer most chapter questins
It's not that much work. Judging by how fast I'm getting through economics I should be able to know an AOS back to front in about 1-2 weeks and it doesn't impact at all on my life outside school... so if I keep going at the same speed I don't see any reason why I can't be done by a couple of weeks before holidays end.
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Definitely could cover the Bus Man Course over the summer holidays, then learn the finer details in class etc throughout the year.
In terms of PE ben_ess12, I would probably cover AOS1 in the holidays (NPAG, ecological model or whatever it is etc etc) but leave the next AOS (energy systems) until you do it in class, as it is the most important area of the course. All or most of of Unit 4 relates specifically to energy systems, hence ideally 75% of the exam will be on such concepts and related ones. So I would wait for your teacher to take you through it.
Thanks for the p.e advice. i didnt really look into AOS 2 too much, doing AOS 1 atm (the holiday homework is based on it) and it seems pretty basic-ish so far...
but i will wait for the teacher to go over energy systems, a few ppl have mentioned energy systems are important so i guess it will be better to take on all of this advice :) thanks for that. Did you do all the chapter questions relating to AOS 1 now and write notes now?
as for business, i have noticed how small it is, my 1/2 book was bigger :/ but i have briefly gone through fist AOS and have a decent understanding i will probably go through the rest and have a brief knowledge of the course
I didn't do much PE homework at all over the summar holidays, I mainly did english. But as you say, AOS 1 in PE is fairly straightforward, I'd get stuck into that now, like you're already doing.
With Bus Man, make sure you go through HR management, which is AOS 1 in Unit 4 if I recall correctly. It seems to be a large part of the course. The first area of study will most likely only feature in a minimal fashion on the exam, eg the characteristics of LSOs. Also, know the environments (Internal, Operating and Macro) as this ties in with the rest of the course. (You probably already have this covered from Unit 1 and 2.)
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I wouldn't worry about HR until you finish unit 3.
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My plan is to complete AOS1 of each of my subjects, read all my lit+english books (there is a shitload of books) then just push on as far beyond that as I can. For all my subjects I'm just gonna sumarise the textbook in my own words and do the exercises in the textbooks relating to each topic i larn and make sure I understand every topic/concept before I move onto the next one on the list... Quite simple realy.
sounds like you have a plan :P i would say thats a lot of work and reading to do but if your wanting 99 i guess its something your gonna need to do...
i plan on going through the book for busines and p.e and writing AOS 1 notes at least for both subjects andtrying o answer most chapter questins
It's not that much work. Judging by how fast I'm getting through economics I should be able to know an AOS back to front in about 1-2 weeks and it doesn't impact at all on my life outside school... so if I keep going at the same speed I don't see any reason why I can't be done by a couple of weeks before holidays end.
So I take it your doing a little bit every single day? Seems like a good idea I might try and implement it as well...
Goodluck with your plan as well
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Definitely could cover the Bus Man Course over the summer holidays, then learn the finer details in class etc throughout the year.
In terms of PE ben_ess12, I would probably cover AOS1 in the holidays (NPAG, ecological model or whatever it is etc etc) but leave the next AOS (energy systems) until you do it in class, as it is the most important area of the course. All or most of of Unit 4 relates specifically to energy systems, hence ideally 75% of the exam will be on such concepts and related ones. So I would wait for your teacher to take you through it.
Thanks for the p.e advice. i didnt really look into AOS 2 too much, doing AOS 1 atm (the holiday homework is based on it) and it seems pretty basic-ish so far...
but i will wait for the teacher to go over energy systems, a few ppl have mentioned energy systems are important so i guess it will be better to take on all of this advice :) thanks for that. Did you do all the chapter questions relating to AOS 1 now and write notes now?
as for business, i have noticed how small it is, my 1/2 book was bigger :/ but i have briefly gone through fist AOS and have a decent understanding i will probably go through the rest and have a brief knowledge of the course
I didn't do much PE homework at all over the summar holidays, I mainly did english. But as you say, AOS 1 in PE is fairly straightforward, I'd get stuck into that now, like you're already doing.
With Bus Man, make sure you go through HR management, which is AOS 1 in Unit 4 if I recall correctly. It seems to be a large part of the course. The first area of study will most likely only feature in a minimal fashion on the exam, eg the characteristics of LSOs. Also, know the environments (Internal, Operating and Macro) as this ties in with the rest of the course. (You probably already have this covered from Unit 1 and 2.)
Cheers thanks for that :) I just want to get a bit ahead as I will have a pretty hetic sporting schedule next year and any chance o get to move forward would be good :) thanks again
And to burberry I doubt il even look at unit4 till next year anyways a least but thanks for the tip
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I've been reading my english and literature texts over the holidays. Read 2 so far, Booyah!
Concerning Maths, Chemistry, I've been gradually working through the chapters which has not been so difficult thus far. However, I"ve been leaving out my economics, bit lazy to start on it actually xD.. But will try >;D.... When I ABSOLUTELY have nothing to do, I just write random paragraphs for language analysis. I guess it helps being productive
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^^^^ goood job there water :) (i like the name as well ;) )
i think a bit of work every day or two will be sufficient
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Correct me if I'm wrong... so basically, you guys are just using the dot points off the study design as topic headings, then writing notes about each and going down for each AoS?
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Yes I think so.
Also remember to apply your knowledge by doing questions etc. :)
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@darren, i plan on doing that, or basically dedicating one section of a book to AOS 1 and handwriting everything i feel is relevant and on study design
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how should i approach psych? we were just told to read the first chapter of our textbooks and make notes.
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how should i approach psych? we were just told to read the first chapter of our textbooks and make notes.
maybe try and find iNerd on this site, he is doing pysch and i no he has already started maybe ask him?