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VCE Stuff => VCE Languages Other Than English (LOTE) => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Japanese SL => Topic started by: Tobias Funke on December 19, 2010, 11:52:22 am
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Well I'm going to Japan soon, and i'd really like to save myself the hassle of bringing the bulky Wakatta textbook by having a pdf file of a similar textbook so I can still try to learn all the grammar during my trip
If anyone has any ideas/alternative methods it'd be greatly appreciated
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These links are from another thread provided by Furbob so all credit goes to her :)
http://www.independentschools.vic.edu.au/schools/pubs/lote/japanese_part_1.pdf
http://www.independentschools.vic.edu.au/schools/pubs/lote/japanese_part_2.pdf
http://www.independentschools.vic.edu.au/schools/pubs/lote/japanese_part_3.pdf
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http://nihongo-dekimasu.blogspot.com/
has a lot of Japanese books in .PDF (not sure if it has Wakatta) but im just throwing it up there
it's on the right hand side of the page and just scroll down~
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Thanks for all these resources Furbob!!!
These will help me out a lot :)
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Have you used any of these Furbob?
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well I bought the Genki 2 workbook myself and I downloaded the textbook and answers from that site so I wouldn't have to burn $70 on getting it
oh and I've downloaded a few other books to look at for curiosity :angel:
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hmm do you know if there is a pdf file of the kookoo seikatsu kanji workbook?
or is there any other kanji book that you would recommend?
Im trying to put together a book with all the VCE kanji and other useful kanji, grammar, vocab etc
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ooo for Kanji I recommend get Bojinsha's Basic Kanji Book volume 1&2 which covers 250 kanji each with exercises
Most of volume 1 is just full of VCE Kanji and extras but its a bit costly ($70)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41CH0SA2M8L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
for extra grammar exercises I'd recommend getting the Genki 2 workbook ($25) then downloading the textbook from the link I provided (I think I have already mentioned this before lol)
(http://s154519205.onlinehome.us/images/T/t-16156-21.gif)
you can buy a load of Japanese books at Language International on Glenferrie Rd
aaaand I've never seen the kookoo seikatsu book in .pdf format :(
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Genki 2 covers grammar yeah? I'm hoping it does, downloading it now
Thanks a lot
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Thanks :D :D
Is there a pdf file for Bojinsha's Basic Kanji Book? Or is it one we have to buy?
I think i might go to that book store :)
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I think the link only has volume 3&4 in .pdf but there's no 1 or 2
You'd need to buy it anyway because the pages have those blank squares for practicing the stroke order unless you're willing to print out 220+ double sided pages
and Genki 2 does cover grammar but I recommended the workbook because you'd probably want to do the exercises (unless once again, you like to print)
*edit*
oh hey I just noticed the pictures of the books I posted up were similar to the Christmas colours LOLOLOL.
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Furbob the Tango book is really good!!!
Do you know how you said you listed the kanji on your poster in some kind of strucure, do you mean how they've got it in that book?
So how they are all grouped into a certain topic?
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You just have headings in english and put all the kanji associated under them and so on, so yes you're right. It's your own initiative so do whatever suits you~
Our teacher makes us have a weekly quiz per chapter in that vocab book so I guess you could do the same.
I also bought myself a whiteboard to put behind the desk I do my homework at and I write the vocab I need to know on that board a week before my vocab quiz so as I do my homework and look up randomly, I get to constantly glance at the words - another tip from Furbob
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yeah whiteboards are goooooood :)
ive got a couple in my room, i use to put our weekly kanji on them. now ive just got some chem stuff xD
im thinking of downloading the genki book but on that site the picture is different to the one you uploaded, it's mainly white with some dark green writing... are these the same thing?
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the white one with the dark green writing is the textbook, the one I posted a picture of is the workbook
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lol yeah i realised that when i had a closer look at the picture xD
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Thanks for the resources Furbob! Very handy! :D
Heres the link for Basic Kanji Book, Vol 1. (I'm not sure cause it doesn't have a front/back cover, I'm pretty sure its the same one, it has 500 Kanji etc)
But as Furbob said You'd need to buy it anyway because the pages have those blank squares for practicing the stroke order unless you're willing to print out 220+ double sided pages
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Well im able to print them off and bind them :) I get my mum to do it at work :D
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Do i need to update my Adobe or something to read/view the Genki textbook properly?
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Do i need to update my Adobe or something to read/view the Genki textbook properly?
Which one did you download? I downloaded 1st book and had to have both parts (.rar files) to make it work
I'm using Adobe reader 9
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Yeah that probably explains it. My adobe is 8 xD i downlaoded the 2 part one as well, but i think both parts are the same...
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nice work guys :D If you want to go overboard with even more Kanji, I suggest getting the Basic Kanji Book vol 2
but it wouldn't be horribly relevant for VCE however if you intend to continue Japanese after year 12 then go on!
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Ive got too much stuff to do at once!! lol getting quite excited with jap now :) trying to finish off methods course... have to read my eng texts soon :'(
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I'm trying to focus on Chemistry rather than anything else right now. XD First Chem, then Japanese General Oral prep. Then maybe Detailed study if I have time~
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Whooo 2/3s of methods to go or thereabouts :) Then ill probs start chem.
Zien hows chem going for you? Is it easyish to understand?
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Woah, two-thirds of the methods done already? That's awesome! I'm aiming for a 35 in it so I'm not planning to study it that much at home. Just pay a lot of attention in every class I have. XD
Chem is going well. The first 5 or so chapters aren't too hard to understand; it's pretty much just a revision of the 1/2 course with a few newly added principles. I finished the Chromatography chapter but skipped over the next few of Spectroscopy since I heard it wasn't as focused on in the exam and I wanted to get started on the AoS 2. :p My organic chem isn't good~~
I think the problem most people have with understanding the concepts is because they're not too interested. For example, by reading over the Chem forum I see that people find back titration somewhat difficult to understand. But I find it such an interesting and clever concept to overcome the problem of weak acid/weak base that I was super interested and soon understood it. XD
I haven't been doing the questions though, I'm just writing down the notes. I'm on.. 24 pages I think? (12 pages double sided.) Lots of paper @_@
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nice job on chem!! nah ive done 1/3 of methods :P but i plan to finish the course before new years!
chem is one of my favourite subjects so hopefully i can pick it up more easily :)
im not sure if i wanna write out notes :/
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Chem is possibly one of my favourite subjects out of my subjects next year. It's a shame I decided not to do bio even though I want to enter Undergrad. Medicine; it could easily challenge Chem as my favourite science. XD
Nah, you don't have to. Just reading and being familiar with the concepts is enough. I'm heading into class next year with the mindset of knowing nothing and then go home and compare what I learnt in class vs. my notes I'm doing now. I believe that studying and listening in class is the best form of studying we can all do and not solo at home all year. ;D
Are you planning to start on Japanese after Chem?
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Well yeah probably, i dont think ill touch the spesh stuff anymore cbf... ill just follow my teacher's advice.
I would mainly be memorising kanji, grammar and vocab for Jap. I dont think ill start looking at the new grammar points, ill just learn those in class. But it would be very important to get your kanji and grammar down pat as a minimum before school starts imo.
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Mm, I'll be doing grammar mostly and then transition to Oral prep. I loathe learning how to write kanji but love knowing how to read it. It's quite odd.~
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I dont like kanji full stop!! why cant japanese ppl just use their hiragana and katakana? would mkae learning jap so much easier :P
Well im not sure on what im going to do my oral on yet...
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I dont like kanji full stop!! why cant japanese ppl just use their hiragana and katakana? would mkae learning jap so much easier :P
Well im not sure on what im going to do my oral on yet...
that's why I'm learning Korean :D
The grammar is almost exactly the same as Japanese, the words sound similar, but Kanji has been purged from the writing system yayyyyy.
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:o that sounds good. i know a few ppl who are doing/ have done jap sl and korean combo and done well in both!
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LOL I love Kanji! they have little stories in each of them :D and it makes me appreciate Chinese as well
but I do admit that it makes picking up a Japanese article and reading it a bit daunting
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Haha, try picking up a Chinese newspaper. It just makes me feel ashamed to be Chinese but not know any kanji when my mum reads a Chinese newspaper. >.> I shall do mandarin as a breadth subject in Uni though. :p
I was watching a Korean drama a week or so ago, and I was like "Woah, that words in Japanese. WHY IS THERE NO KANJI IN THEIR HANGUL?!" I was extremely jealous.
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Well i havent started trying to memorise all the kanji yet, so maybe the stories will help :)
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I wish our teacher taught it to us radical by radical and telling us the meaning behind each one. But we're mostly just learning kanji for the sake of learning kanji. : /
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yep thats the same as us Zien.
I downlaoded that kanji book that Furbob suggested and it's pretty good, it shows how a symbol or thing changes into the kanji so it sort of has a story/meaning behind it :)
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kanji gives me headaches.
sometimes i know what it means, but thats only cause i know chinese. and only SOME characters have similar meanings. And usually i dont know how to pronounce them..
because im doing both chinese and jap for vce, i wonder if ill get mixed up :'(
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yep thats the same as us Zien.
I downlaoded that kanji book that Furbob suggested and it's pretty good, it shows how a symbol or thing changes into the kanji so it sort of has a story/meaning behind it :)
Just did so and this is actually so interesting. I wonder if it covers the Kanji needed and beyond VCE level~
kanji gives me headaches.
sometimes i know what it means, but thats only cause i know chinese. and only SOME characters have similar meanings. And usually i dont know how to pronounce them..
because im doing both chinese and jap for vce, i wonder if ill get mixed up :'(
My class of eight people (yes, only eight D:) has three people who did Chinese Second Language this year for Year 11 and they usually know the kanji before we even learn them. : / Doesn't stop me from beating them in the kanji tests because I know their Japanese meaning better. XD So just focus more on the Japanese aspect of it; the prior Chinese knowledge does help but don't let it control your learning~ I've seen my friends make that mistake many times.
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^ yes the book does cover a few kanji beyond VCE
I personally use kanji that is not of the VCE list in my writing and I find it helpful as it cuts down squares and there's a sense of achievement went you realize that your essay looks more complicated-looking than someone elses in a way :P
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Haha that's awesome. If I have some extra time during the year if I'm not learning vocab or fixing up my Oral Exam prep. I'll definitely try and learn some extra ones to cut down on genkooyooshi. I find out I'm either stressed for space or stressed for time. If I was stressed for space, I would spend too much planning to make my essay more concise and then stress for time. :p
Need more practice !
By the way, is it only me that hates the romanization of げんこうようし. In fact, that and おべんとう as well; there's just 'O's replacing the "U"s in English. : /
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Im really like that kanji book :) it beats the purple by a lot!!
and there's not that much of an advantage or disadvantage being chinese thus knowing the kanji. Like Zien said they will know the kanji but perhaps not know the japanese meaning so well.