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Title: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: nacho on December 26, 2010, 11:05:15 am
Hi,
So I was thinking about going to Neap chemistry session  which is on Wednesday the 12th, going from 9:00am - 4:30pm.
I've never been to one of these before, however, the NEAP tests and exams have always been a fun challenge.
Would anyone recommend going to these, or perhaps any others? I really DONT want to go to TSFX though!
Thanks :D
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: chrisjb on December 26, 2010, 11:25:23 am
I have never gone to Neap chemistry, but Neap Legal was very very very good. There was only like 20 people in the class and the lecturer was amazing and there was heaps of interaction.
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: eeps on December 26, 2010, 11:27:32 am
Yes, I would go. NEAP are good.
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: nacho on December 26, 2010, 11:29:27 am
Cool, thanks!
Would you guys recommend it for english? My parents are bugging me a lot... But I don't think that big lectures could be good for english as english is a very broad subject and students have different needs... what could they possibly teach?
So do any of you people plan to go to the NEAP Chemistry lecture, or do you just recommend it?
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: eeps on December 26, 2010, 11:34:59 am
I probably won't go to NEAP Chemistry this time. I've got hectic schedule in January as it is. You should go though.

I've been to English lectures in the past. It's really just general advice on how to tackle the different types of essays. As well other things such as expression, vocabulary and so on.

As you say, English is a broad subject and it's the lecture with the most people in it. The lecturer can't really be text-specific as students come from different schools and read different texts. Hence, it's more general advice on English than anything.
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: Furbob on December 26, 2010, 01:40:38 pm
I know that the NEAP books are a part of my school's yr 12 booklist (for chem obviously) so I guess they must be good?
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: eeps on December 26, 2010, 01:45:08 pm
They are probably one of the best, if not, the best. Their books and guides are very good and there are less mistakes, if any, in NEAP guides than in other ones like Checkpoints, TSSM etc.

I went to one or two lectures by NEAP this year and they were good. For all intensive purposes, go for yourself and then you can judge whether it's good or not. I've also got NEAP down as part of my school's book-list for a few subjects.
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: burbs on December 26, 2010, 03:43:32 pm
Don't waste your money on an English lecture, Chem maybe. To improve English maybe get a tutor from VN for a couple of lessons (will come to same price but personalised) and practice (shameless plug: Essay Marking board).

:)
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: taiga on December 26, 2010, 04:24:06 pm
If you want an english lecture/crash course, try Shinny's english program, I hear nothing but positive reviews of it.

TSFX I always get mixed reviews
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: nacho on December 26, 2010, 04:24:20 pm
Don't waste your money on an English lecture, Chem maybe. To improve English maybe get a tutor from VN for a couple of lessons (will come to same price but personalised) and practice (shameless plug: Essay Marking board).

:)
Sure, sounds good.
What is shameless plug?
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: eeps on December 26, 2010, 04:30:18 pm
If you want an english lecture/crash course, try Shinny's english program, I hear nothing but positive reviews of it.

I'm going to him in January! From what I've heard as well, it's worth every dollar. =D
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: Greatness on December 26, 2010, 04:40:53 pm
Most definitely worth it!! I went a week ago i think. Very gooooood :) Especially if you're good/decent at english but want to do better
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: ariawuu on December 26, 2010, 04:46:25 pm
I'm going to neap summer school for chem! i heard overall they are much better than tsfx! :) and SHINNY IS FABULOUS~!
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: Greatness on December 26, 2010, 04:54:34 pm
Well ive got tsfx and neap notes for chem hopefully they are good.

Is it too late to apply for the NEAP summer school?
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: ariawuu on December 26, 2010, 04:55:32 pm
dont think so? it wont hurt to try :) ~
Well ive got tsfx and neap notes for chem hopefully they are good.

Is it too late to apply for the NEAP summer school?

www.neap.com.au i think thats the site~
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: Greatness on December 26, 2010, 05:00:01 pm
thanks :)
hmm $130 not too bad.. where do they do these lectures?? i cant seem to find it...lol
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: Greatness on December 26, 2010, 05:05:08 pm
cheeeeerrrssss :D i think i might go :)
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: ariawuu on December 26, 2010, 07:53:21 pm
VNS in the middle-frontish! :D
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: Greatness on December 26, 2010, 07:54:51 pm
which day are you going??
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: ariawuu on December 26, 2010, 07:55:18 pm
the first session :)
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: Greatness on December 26, 2010, 08:01:59 pm
hmmm still not sure whether i want to go or not :P would there be any point in learning chem u3 before going then? lol
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: nacho on December 26, 2010, 08:02:42 pm
Lol are there breaks? it goes for longer than a school day..
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: ariawuu on December 26, 2010, 08:05:09 pm
least you dont have to go on separate days like tsfx >< god i cant stand tsfx lectures! yeah course breaks! just get it over and done with :) good notes too/tips!
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: Greatness on December 26, 2010, 08:06:00 pm
so they go through unit 4 chem as well?
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: ariawuu on December 26, 2010, 08:07:26 pm
not sure.. i dont think they have winterschool like tsfx mm they could go through unit4 .. but unlikely as there isnt enough time so probably unit 3 only :)
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: Greatness on December 26, 2010, 08:21:27 pm
Do TSFX have the free lectures for most subjects? If so when do they hold these?
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: eeps on December 26, 2010, 08:26:39 pm
Do TSFX have the free lectures for most subjects? If so when do they hold these?

For most subjects, it's not free - you pay obviously. Though, TSFX give some free lecture about "VCE Success - tips/advice etc", if you sign up with them for a certain amount of subjects.

I went earlier this year - the advice given is common knowledge. Nothing that you'd be missing out on. They give notes out along with that free lecture.
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: ariawuu on December 26, 2010, 08:27:39 pm
you can only choose a maximum of two. :) they hold sometime around february? before the intensive workshops begin.. tsfx really advertises themselves >.>
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: eeps on December 26, 2010, 08:29:42 pm
you can only choose a maximum of two. :) they hold sometime around february? before the intensive workshops begin.. tsfx really advertises themselves >.>

My school has flyers from TSFX, advertising themselves in the school library. It's how they attract students and make profit. >.>
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: Greatness on December 26, 2010, 08:31:33 pm
oh.. i dont think ill waste my money on tsfx. altho i bought their notes of someone :P


LOL we have adds around the office, library and some classrooms of TSFX and NEAP...
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: ariawuu on December 26, 2010, 08:33:44 pm
lol ive been to like all of their lectures...  they're not THAT good as they appear to be :) trustt. yeah i got like 6+ brochures in the mail when ive enrolled in their lectures already.. and i just got another one today haha. that lady irena who runs tsfx is really persuasive (in the brochure) >.> thats why sooo many students go and feel like they will fail without it..  or feel disadvantaged if they dont go.

also i went to winterschool for english and she almost ripped us off until the lecturer phoned her to personally complain  :-\
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: burbs on December 26, 2010, 08:48:12 pm
Are NEAP and TSFX the only 'decent' lecture companies?
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: eeps on December 26, 2010, 08:51:57 pm
Are NEAP and TSFX the only 'decent' lecture companies?

IMO probably yes. They are certainly the two that are the most recognised. TSSM offer lectures as well, but IMO aren't that good comparatively. Are you planning on going to Legal for TSFX or NEAP?
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: burbs on December 26, 2010, 09:25:41 pm
Nah no time to go to it + seems useless?
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: ariawuu on December 26, 2010, 09:28:28 pm
only lectur eim doing at tsfx is PE since... i didnt do 1/2
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: tea.squaredd on December 26, 2010, 09:44:00 pm
Going to Chem NEAP lecture on the 17th after i get back from nysf :D :D
might see some of you there
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: nacho on December 27, 2010, 11:19:51 am
IMO probably yes. They are certainly the two that are the most recognised. TSSM offer lectures as well, but IMO aren't that good comparatively. Are you planning on going to Legal for TSFX or NEAP?
For a subject like legal, i reckon its better to self study.
In all honesty, the only thing they could offer us (as legal doesn't have any difficult to grasp concepts/theory) is how to answer exam-style questions, which I think our teachers will show us!
Looks like i'll be going to the chem lecture after all.
Title: Re: Would you recommend NEAP for chemistry?
Post by: dyaner on December 27, 2010, 07:45:46 pm
Self study is good. Always use your teachers, track them down for help.