ATAR Notes: Forum
VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: Darren on January 07, 2011, 02:40:09 pm
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Hello all. I'm back from my holiday and I would like to commence my personal headstart on my 2011 subjects.. however I'm extremely confused/unsure if I should handwrite or type my new notes. I have gotten all my textbooks, and printed out the study design in order to refer to. In your experience for such headstart notes, should I write or type? I'm pretty sure writing would consume much more time however it might help me retain information for when school starts.. while typing can be quicker and neater, but it'd kill my eyes over all the hours. I don't know. Did you handwrite or type your summer notes?
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I always hand-write. For me, its faster and I can easily format it however I like.
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Well, since you basically have a lot of rote-learning subs, i.e. legal&psych, I'd recommend you to type them up because that way you can gather a lot of images/diagrams etc from the internet to paste them in, and you can also format them however/whenever you like.
You can also print your notes off anytime and just stick them into a book or something to refer to. :)
BUT if you do have the time, try to handwrite.
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I always hand-write. For me, its faster and I can easily format it however I like.
Yeh +1
Sometimes, I write notes that I don't even look at, just the notion of writing and thinking of it helps me remember too...
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Handwriting for Psychology...but then again I have plenty of time (y11) but generally the majority of people will say to handwrite as you're more likely to retain information over time.
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I always hand-write. For me, its faster and I can easily format it however I like.
That.
For a few reasons:
1. It's the holidays. You have time anyway. :P
2. The formatting thing is so true! The time you gain by typing everything up is usually lost in grappling with the formatting.
3. You do retain the information more.
4. Because writing requires more effort, when I handwrite notes I generally only write stuff that's really important, or stuff I would constantly refer back to. And when you type, you run the risk of just including everything, which may render the notes useless in the end. (I wouldn't want to read through pages and pages of typed notes to find, say, one formula, or one date).
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I always hand-write. For me, its faster and I can easily format it however I like.
Though I'll admit that handwriting it is almost always better for retention of knowledge, faster than typing? Bit of a stretch. xD
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I always hand-write. For me, its faster and I can easily format it however I like.
Though I'll admit that handwriting it is almost always better for retention of knowledge, faster than typing? Bit of a stretch. xD
Yes, the action of actually writing it down clearly improves data-retention.
Off topic: Why the hell did iNerd change his name to ATAR? I recall countless posts beginning with, 'it's iNerd not INERD/inerd/INERD.' You were so pedantic about it, now you change it... Explain?
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I always hand-write. For me, its faster and I can easily format it however I like.
I'm slow at formatting on MS word... :(
Especially maths equations or chem equations or physics forumlas, way faster by hand (for me anyway).
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Off topic: Why the hell did iNerd change his name to ATAR? I recall countless posts beginning with, 'it's iNerd not INERD/inerd/INERD.' You were so pedantic about it, now you change it... Explain?
Attention seeker (my opinion). Also what is strange, he changed his name to the symbol (a word/phrase can be a symbol) of a system that only a few days ago he was suggesting should be scrapped for his own... (lol, I think I just started a massive debate with him...)
iNerd made him sound like an Apple product anyway.
EDIT: He wants to be female too (look at gender). Things are changing for iNerd... now removed
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I always hand-write. For me, its faster and I can easily format it however I like.
I'm slow at formatting on MS word... :(
Especially maths equations or chem equations or physics forumlas, way faster by hand (for me anyway).
OFFTOPIC:
Off topic: Why the hell did iNerd change his name to ATAR? I recall countless posts beginning with, 'it's iNerd not INERD/inerd/INERD.' You were so pedantic about it, now you change it... Explain?
Attention seeker (my opinion). Also what is strange, he changed his name to the symbol (a word/phrase can be a symbol) of a system that only a few days ago he was suggesting should be scrapped for his own... (lol, I think I just started a massive debate with him...)
iNerd made him sound like an Apple product anyway.
I had no idea that iNerd meant a techo, and I'm far from it :/
As for pi, rofl you can have whatever opinions you want, I'm in no mood to argue with you.
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EDIT: He wants to be female too (look at gender). Things are changing for iNerd...
Quoted for truth.
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Carry on then.
Darren, my opinion would be that if you are looking for speed (as you are doing no sciences), typing is the way to go. However, with Further (and if you want to write notes) I would go with hand-written just because it allows freedoms of formatting as easiness to write equations and draw relevant graphs/plots. However, with retention:
Yes, the action of actually writing it down clearly improves data-retention.
^This. I can also vouch for this statement, from personal experience.
Good luck!
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EDIT: He wants to be female too (look at gender). Things are changing for iNerd...
Quoted for truth.
-.- I reiterate, I'm no techo. I figured out how to get rid of it :P
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EDIT: He wants to be female too (look at gender). Things are changing for iNerd...
Quoted for truth.
-.- I reiterate, I'm no techo. I figured out how to get rid of it :P
Calm down iNerd, you stress too much, we're just having a laugh...
I'm sure your a great bloke ermm man well person.
Seriously though, your going to get like a 99.95 ATAR seeing as you've been preparing from grade -17, so you'll have the last laugh with a 99.95 ATAR.
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EDIT: He wants to be female too (look at gender). Things are changing for iNerd...
Quoted for truth.
-.- I reiterate, I'm no techo. I figured out how to get rid of it :P
Calm down iNerd, you stress too much, we're just having a laugh...
I'm sure your a great bloke ermm man well person.
Seriously though, your going to get like a 99.95 ATAR seeing as you've been preparing from grade -17, so you'll have the last laugh with a 99.95 ATAR.
Eh? grade-17? No way man, you can enjoy that, I'm settled in my 30-97 bracket :P
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Calm down iNerd, you stress too much, we're just having a laugh...
I'm sure your a great bloke ermm man well person.
Seriously though, your going to get like a 99.95 ATAR seeing as you've been preparing from grade -17, so you'll have the last laugh with a 99.95 ATAR.
lol!
With his 29 years of prep, he'll definitely be in either his top tier (98+) or if not that, the limbo tier (97.05-97.95)!
And yes, its just for a laugh (no offence/bullying meant whatsoever)
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Thanks guys! I think with the excessive amount of time I have these holidays I'll opt to handwrite. Not only to help myself remember information.. but I also satisfy my OCD of writing pages neatly, then looking at my masterpiece!
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IMO, although it may be longer to write, i think it's definitely better.
Why? Because, in the exam you write, not type. And Legal is a writing subject, a long with english, i don't know about the rest of your subs.
Also, when you type, you'll be tempted to copy slabs of information, because it's so easy to do so, and then you'll find you have a lot of redundant information
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EDIT: He wants to be female too (look at gender). Things are changing for iNerd...
Quoted for truth.
-.- I reiterate, I'm no techo. I figured out how to get rid of it :P
Calm down iNerd, you stress too much, we're just having a laugh...
I'm sure your a great bloke ermm man well person.
Seriously though, your going to get like a 99.95 ATAR seeing as you've been preparing from grade -17, so you'll have the last laugh with a 99.95 ATAR.
No more off topic someone will get mad.
I personally would say to handwrite for subjects like chem, but say for Psych/BM/Geo/History sort of subjects where most of what you do is writing, typed up notes look like they would come in very handy :)
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Handwriting for sure, especially for subjects like maths; typing out calculus is a pain. Also, I find that you remember better when you handwrite.
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I'm usually a proponent of handwriting since you have to hand write on your exam, so you need to be comfortable doing that. However, if you are going to keep referring back to the notes then maybe it's good to have a typed copy as well so that you have an electronic back-up, and it's really easy to make additions without it looking messy.
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Handwriting for sure, especially for subjects like maths; typing out calculus is a pain. Also, I find that you remember better when you handwrite.
No notes for maths.
Generally I don't write any notes. But the best system is hand writing THEN typing, I think. So you go over it multiple times and can perfect the content/format etc.
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I dont know what's wrong with me - I typed up BM and it seemed to wok but I'm still doubting whether it's better for my this year or not... Argh. If I type I'd use OneNote... Maybe for psych and l3egz...
Also pi and asianboy - Stop creating trouble for the sake of it. Or at least do it elsewhere :P
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Don't forget - if you have a scanner you can always scan in your hand-written page for backup (I sometimes do that) :D
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I dont know what's wrong with me - I typed up BM and it seemed to wok but I'm still doubting whether it's better for my this year or not... Argh. If I type I'd use OneNote... Maybe for psych and l3egz...
Also pi and asianboy - Stop creating trouble for the sake of it. Or at least do it elsewhere :P
Oh my god. Onenote! What a genius idea :o. +1 to bolded statement.
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I'm usually a proponent of handwriting since you have to hand write on your exam, so you need to be comfortable doing that. However, if you are going to keep referring back to the notes then maybe it's good to have a typed copy as well so that you have an electronic back-up, and it's really easy to make additions without it looking messy.
I wouldn't recommend handwriting AND typing, I think it'd be better to keep your handwritten ones organised better (folders etc).
I personally think typing up notes is a waste of time, especially if your typing notes that you already have written down - you'd be better off re-reading your written notes to double up on your memory.
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This topic about whether to hand write or type notes has been raised so much in the last six months, just hand write it and get it over and done with.
It's not worth agonising over.
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I dont know what's wrong with me - I typed up BM and it seemed to wok but I'm still doubting whether it's better for my this year or not... Argh. If I type I'd use OneNote... Maybe for psych and l3egz...
Love doing it for English (context especially). Just having random ideas all on one page that I can later refer to and that can also be changes easily.
Also pi and asianboy - Stop creating trouble for the sake of it. Or at least do it elsewhere :P
Apologies
and I stress:
And yes, its just for a laugh (no offence/bullying meant whatsoever)
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I dont know what's wrong with me - I typed up BM and it seemed to wok but I'm still doubting whether it's better for my this year or not... Argh. If I type I'd use OneNote... Maybe for psych and l3egz...
Love doing it for English (context especially). Just having random ideas all on one page that I can later refer to and that can also be changes easily.
Also pi and asianboy - Stop creating trouble for the sake of it. Or at least do it elsewhere :P
Apologies
and I stress:
And yes, its just for a laugh (no offence/bullying meant whatsoever)
You're a smart boy, you should no that 'no offence' does not negate offence.
"Hey you're an ugly whore, no offence."
See? Act your age.
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Burberry, what's OneNote? :S
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An amazing microsoft program. Google it and you'll be wowed.
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An amazing microsoft program. Google it and you'll be wowed.
Ah damn I'm on a Mac. But if I can find an alternative and the program's as good as you make it out to be, I might start typing up my notes from now on.
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An amazing microsoft program. Google it and you'll be wowed.
Ah damn I'm on a Mac. But if I can find an alternative and the program's as good as you make it out to be, I might start typing up my notes from now on.
Sounds awesome, I want it too now haha! (I'm on a mac as well)
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There are mac versions of it, again google.
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Yeah, I got it along with Word/Excel/Powerpoint 2010, and checked it out out of curiosity.
It very nearly converted me to typing notes, and I'm a firm believer in handwritten ones. :D
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I agree with iNerd as Handwrite should be far slower for most people (no idea how it could be faster o-o) - that in itself will definitely help remember it as you write out things that your brain can take longer to go over rather then mindless typing.
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real science subjects like chem, which require a lot of formula writing are probably better by hand, even for me and I'm pretty quick with Word 10 shortcuts. But theory subjects its good to have clearly written notes and the comp can be very quick for that.
As for formatting, on word, if you do bullet points and use headings & tab you get neat notes which are clearly set out and quick to use (look at any of the notes I uploaded).
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im only doing yr 11 so i am by no means an expert but...
i have typed up notes/summary of AOS 1 for both p.e and b/m this year, as more of a summary/notes to study type of thing in case i dont have time to handwrite, but when i do handwrite, it will probably be closer to the sacs (as i find it helps me remember the information) and will have more clear, precise and information i either stuggle with or i feel will be a major part of the SAC
hope that made sense
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For me, I handwrite and type my notes. I usually handwrite if I'm taking a small amount of notes but if it's a copious amount, I resort to typing them because my hand gets sore after a while. I can type and write quite fast so I guess either method is fine by me. It depends on what suits you the most.
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I always handwrite my notes because i have a tendancy to go on facebook whenever i'm on the computer, and then 4 hours later i only have 1 paragraph done :S
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handwrite. I don't understand how people type notes. I tried it for legal and only managed about half of unit 3. You can't add little arrows and symbols and shorthand so it never turns out as well as handwritten.
Also... this topic seems to spring up every 6 months or so on this forum. Handwriting always wins :D
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handwrite. I don't understand how people type notes. I tried it for legal and only managed about half of unit 3. You can't add little arrows and symbols and shorthand so it never turns out as well as handwritten.
Also... this topic seems to spring up every 6 months or so on this forum. Handwriting always wins :D
+1, wins for maths too!
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Writing by hand definately helps for some subjects. For example if you are doing a mind map on the computer it can be a very tedious process if you are making a large one for say characters in a text or how the energy systems work.
By hand can also be done at any time and as a spur of a moment too which can help with your memory of it too.
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I've never written notes by hand (except methods in y11) because i get lazy very easily, so typing for me was a much faster option, saving hours (even with practice essays i would type it out :/). In saying this i didn't write notes for English language, further or accounting so my opinion doesn't mean much