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VCE Stuff => VCE English Studies => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE English & EAL => Topic started by: sanam on January 08, 2011, 11:58:41 pm
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Hi guys i think im really interested in the burqa issue and also the asylum seekers issue. which would be better? (im more passionate about the burq Issue tho). in year 11 i did the issue on whether they should allow a mosque to be built on ground zero or not. im not actually muslim but it seems that all my topics are based around the issues the world has with islam. do you think i should steer away from this topic so that the oral assessor doesnt think im a freak?? :idiot2:
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well the assessor would be your teacher :) and i would do whatever im more comfortable with and passionate about.
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Hi guys i think im really interested in the burqa issue and also the asylum seekers issue. which would be better? (im more passionate about the burq Issue tho). in year 11 i did the issue on whether they should allow a mosque to be built on ground zero or not. im not actually muslim but it seems that all my topics are based around the issues the world has with islam. do you think i should steer away from this topic so that the oral assessor doesnt think im a freak?? :idiot2:
all my issues are usualy about aboriginies and i'm white... So do whatever you want to do, I have found that teachers are impartial enough to give you credit if you do a good job even if they completely disagree with you. So if you're passionate about it then go for it.
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our teachers arent our assessors we get external assessors to come in and we do it just in front of them, no class mates, and no english teachers! only the vce assessor!
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our teachers arent our assessors we get external assessors to come in and we do it just in front of them, no class mates, and no english teachers! only the vce assessor!
even better. They won't even know you're not muslim.
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im indian and my dad wears a turban :P so i was thinking that i would take on a persona of someone from my religion which is sikhism and do my speech at like a multiracial seminar or something and express how i would feel if apart of my religion was taken away from me and then go into the whole freedom of rights and feminism stuff. do you think thats a good idea? any other suggestions?
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our teachers arent our assessors we get external assessors to come in and we do it just in front of them, no class mates, and no english teachers! only the vce assessor!
oh really.. that sucks. hmmm still it shouldnt a problem. if you're truly passionate about this topic then you'll be able to present a clear and thorough speech.
if you're still having trouble deciding talk to your teacher about it.
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our teachers arent our assessors we get external assessors to come in and we do it just in front of them, no class mates, and no english teachers! only the vce assessor!
At least you don't have to do it in your school's lecture theatre in front of two classes xD.
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At least you don't have to do it in your school's lecture theatre in front of two classes xD.
at least you have a lecture theatre
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Personally, I find it easier to write about things I'm not passionate about, or if I am, water down my opinion or approach it from a different angle. If you get too passionate it can be difficult to present a controlled, cohesive argument. I never really got good marks for speeches until year 12, when I decided to dumb down my opinion. I did the issue of smacking and my persona was a parent who had written a book on "positive parenting" and had a lot of techniques for disciplining children without smacking. I acted really self-righteous and got full mark.
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our teachers arent our assessors we get external assessors to come in and we do it just in front of them, no class mates, and no english teachers! only the vce assessor!
Gee, that's strange. I'd rather do it in front of 25 persons than 1 person. Is the oral recorded in case of any disputes?
I think you should go with the issue that you want to do for the reasons that others have mentioned.
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IMHO, I think my school has the best Oral conditions. One teacher and seven students of our choice. You don't have to present in front of anyone that will distract you! And it's a very intimate set up, allowing you to really connect with every person you're speaking to.
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IMHO, I think my school has the best Oral conditions. One teacher and seven students of our choice. You don't have to present in front of anyone that will distract you! And it's a very intimate set up, allowing you to really connect with every person you're speaking to.
We do it infront of our teacher and 4 students of our choice :P :D
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I think we do it in front of an external assessor and one teacher from our school. No students. Which in someways is both good and bad.
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yeah i think ill go with the burqa issue, however im really concerned cos its been around for a long time and isnt very recent. and we have to get articles that are written after sept 1st 2010 so atm im struggling to find recent one :S dunno wat im going to do.
and yes i think im unlucky cos its gonna be weird doing it in front on 1 person :(
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yeah i think ill go with the burqa issue, however im really concerned cos its been around for a long time and isnt very recent. and we have to get articles that are written after sept 1st 2010 so atm im struggling to find recent one :S dunno wat im going to do.
and yes i think im unlucky cos its gonna be weird doing it in front on 1 person :(
wow, doing an oral in front of one person would be weird...we had to do ours in front of our teacher, another teacher and our whole class :P
i remember reading an article in the sydney newspaper when i was up there about the burqa issue...i can't remember if you're allowed to use interstate newspapers...if not, try looking up one of the islamic community newspaper websites...they usually have articles on the burqa issue, albeit usually a biased view but that could be useful! (i used indian community newspapers in my oral last year) here's one link that might be helpful http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/09/29/rundle-burqa-ban-is-a-mass-displacement/
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IMHO, I think my school has the best Oral conditions. One teacher and seven students of our choice. You don't have to present in front of anyone that will distract you! And it's a very intimate set up, allowing you to really connect with every person you're speaking to.
I would end up just chosing 7 random people. The audience doesn't matter that much imo.
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IMHO, I think my school has the best Oral conditions. One teacher and seven students of our choice. You don't have to present in front of anyone that will distract you! And it's a very intimate set up, allowing you to really connect with every person you're speaking to.
I would end up just chosing 7 random people. The audience doesn't matter that much imo.
Yeah, that's my plan. Just as long as they're sensible random people.
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got a quick question,
do you reckon talking about aborigines and equality is a "current" enough topic? I mean its pretty much an ongoing issue,
what do you fellas think?
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Yep fine, just because it's recurring doesn't mean it's not current.
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Yep fine, just because it's recurring doesn't mean it's not current.
Yep.
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I was lucky to get away with speaking about abortion - not a 'current' topic but one that's always lingering around the crevices of the media. Very easy to debate too.